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darwinbulldog 05-03-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Misunderestimated (Post 2221440)
I'll drop a few hints. The RBI leader was 1/3 of a HOF outfield....The pitcher WAR winner was (supposedly) the earliest PED user.....The wild pitch leader and the SB leaders are not HOF, or even HOF candidates..One of them was a "little" guy the other is not to be confused with someone named a "Lady" ..

pWAR: Galvin?
SB: Baldwin?

spec 05-03-2022 03:03 PM

RBI/game must be Sam Thompson

molenick 05-03-2022 06:05 PM

Since you said "not to be confused with a someone named Lady" my answer is: someone else whose last name is Baldwin. Unfortunately, no other 19th century Baldwin comes to mind.

Joe_G. 05-03-2022 06:27 PM

Having read Roy Kerr's book on Big Sam Thompson - Greatest Clutch Hitter Ever . . .

I'm confident Sam Thompson owns the RBI/game record with ridiculous stats in 1887 and again with the Phillies in the 1890s.

Lady Baldwin had a great 1886 and would lead all NL pitchers that year but falls well short of best single season pitching WAR.

molenick 05-03-2022 08:36 PM

I think the WAR winner is Galvin. I am guessing "Some Other Baldwin" for most WPs.

Misunderestimated 05-03-2022 08:51 PM

Galvin was in the P WAR leader -- I guess he wasn't as valuable a hitter as Keefe (in their respective best seasons)

Joe you are right on Big Sam Thompson -- he was well over an RBI per game played in few seasons in the 1880's and 1890's...In the 1890's he had Billy Hamilton batting in front of him.

The SB leader was Hugh "little Nic" Nichol in 1887 in the AA -- I think the stats were especially crazy that year and I don't think they defined SBs the way we do now. But Nichol is still the recognized all-tiime Single-Season leader just ahead of Rickey Henderson.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...B_season.shtml

The Wild Pitch record holder is Mark Baldwin -- who was not Charles "Lady" Baldwin. Mark threw 83 WP in 1889... 20 more than second place all-time Tony "Count" Mullane who is still the career total leader... 83 WP is a lot. Cy Young only ran up 156 in his endless career. Greg Maddux had 70.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...P_season.shtml


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