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michael3322 06-05-2023 06:18 AM

Amazing cards.

It really is impossible to overstate how incredible Roy Campanella was...3x MVP during an MLB career that lasted <10 years.

You can watch Vin Scully's famous call in 1957 when 93k Dodgers' fans lit matches to pay tribute to Roy after his accident:
https://youtu.be/XfXB_THdp3o

https://sportscardinvestor.s3.amazon...d/690_1694_5-L

Seven 06-05-2023 06:56 AM

Out of curiosity could anyone explain why Campanella's hat, does not contain the Dodgers logo and instead is just a blank blue cap? Looks like Bowman painted over whatever logo was on his hat with a dark shade of blue paint!

I didn't even know of the PCL set before discovering this thread! You learn something new everyday!

prewarsports 06-05-2023 12:13 PM

I have seen the photo used to make the card and if my memory serves me right, it is a Montreal cap.

tedzan 06-05-2023 05:07 PM

Reflections on 1949 BOWMAN's (25 HOFers, many Rookies)...show-N-tell us of your cards
 
Many of the SLATE cards are Hand-Cut from 36-card uncut sheets. However, a good number of these printing anomalies are also Factory-Cut.

The examples displayed here are the tougher Hi # cards in the set. These Hi # SLATE's are considerably tougher to find than the Lo # Slate's.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...sslateblue.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...rrmccslate.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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tedzan 06-07-2023 07:00 PM

Reflections on 1949 BOWMAN's (25 HOFers, many Rookies)...show-N-tell us of your cards
 
In the Spring of 1949, us young dudes were mystified to get card #73 (Billy Cox) in the first series of 36 cards....but no card #4.
This 1st series uncut sheet tells the story.


--------#1---------------#2-----------------#3-----------------#73----------------#5---------
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eetA%20_2_.jpg
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eetB%20_3_.jpg


Please excuse the bifurcation of this 36-card sheet, as my Scanner is not large enough to scan the complete sheet.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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darkhorse9 06-07-2023 07:11 PM

This set is my current obsession. I've completed the first four series except for the Jackie. Working on series 5 and have about a third of them so far.

Frustrating to hear this might be the toughest series to complete. I like working sets by series. Finish one before moving on yo the next.

My reasonable expectation is that I will finish the set within the next year minus the big five (Jackie, Satchel, Snider, Ashburn, Doby) and then figure out a way to accumulate funds to knock those off. That may take many more years.

rjackson44 06-07-2023 10:12 PM

Have half the set snd still cant figure it out lol

dealme 06-08-2023 07:05 PM

What an entertaining thread. I don’t own any 49 Bowman cards, but that may soon change. I did happen to notice from the images posted that the Augie Galen card seems to be a colorized version of his 48 Bowman card (which I am somewhat familiar with after having completed that particular set)

I should also add that I find the first-hand accounts of collecting these cards as they were issued incredibly interesting. Thanks for resurrecting this thread!

Cheers,
Mark


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Bram99 07-01-2023 03:40 PM

Progress report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darkhorse9 (Post 2346143)
This set is my current obsession. I've completed the first four series except for the Jackie. Working on series 5 and have about a third of them so far.

Frustrating to hear this might be the toughest series to complete. I like working sets by series. Finish one before moving on yo the next.

My reasonable expectation is that I will finish the set within the next year minus the big five (Jackie, Satchel, Snider, Ashburn, Doby) and then figure out a way to accumulate funds to knock those off. That may take many more years.

So where are you at right now? Interesting to hear from someone else who collects this set..
Tony

e6phillips 07-02-2023 10:06 AM

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49 Bowman Dodgers

darkhorse9 07-05-2023 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bram99 (Post 2352395)
So where are you at right now? Interesting to hear from someone else who collects this set..
Tony

Right now I have completed the first four series cards (except for Jackie) and have the first twelve cards from the fifth series. Working to add cards 157-179 right now. I'm very methodical. It's the only way to satisfy my OCD (obsessive card disorder) and give some sense of accomplishment as I go along.

tedzan 07-05-2023 08:01 PM

1949 BOWMAN cards......
 
For us NY Yankees fans, the 1949 season was a tremendous year, and a tremendous team. Besides Joe DiMaggio, Yogi Berra, Phil Rizzuto,
Allie Reynolds, Vic Raschi, etc....there was Joe Page's tremendous Relief performances and Johnny Lindell's (end of September) Playoff HR
in the 9th inning to beat the Red Sox for the American League Championship.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eDiMaggioZ.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ndellPageX.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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JasonL 09-29-2024 07:36 AM

The Bowman PCL...How many?
 
Hi Ted,
Great story and nice cards!
I was wondering - is there a generally accepted opinion on how many of the 1949 Bowman PCL cards exist today?
Thanks!
Jason

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1936712)
My BOWMAN PCL find...…
I received a call from a guy back in the late 1980's who grew up in the Philadelphia area. Jim wanted to sell me his BOWMAN and TOPPS
collections. He collected Sportscards as a kid in the late 1940's and early 1950's.


I was especially interested in his 1949 BOWMAN cards since I was starting a 2nd set. Jim had 150+ 1949 BOWMAN's. When he started to
describe them to me, I was in for quite a surprise for they included six PCL cards. He recalled these PCL cards were intermixed with the
regular BOWMAN cards in 5-cent packs. Jim recalls being confused, since the PCL cards were in the same packs as cards whose numbers
were in the 100's.
Incidentally, the cards in his entire collection were in amazing condition. Needless to say, the PCL cards were upgrades into my PCL set.


Here is the first page (of 3 pages) from my 1949 BOWMAN album. which includes the PCL set.


……....… Lee Anthony ……………….……….…… George Metkovich ………..………...…...….. Ralph Hodgin
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...altzberger.jpg
…….. "Sheriff" Gassaway ………………..…...…..… Tony Freitas …..……...………..……. Gordon Maltzberger


……..… Ken Holcombe ………………..…………..…… Don Ross ……...……..…….…...…...… "Inky" Coscarart
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...combeLazor.jpg
…...….. "Jeep" Handley …………………….....…… Herman Besse ……….....…..…………...…. John Lazor



TED Z

T206 Reference
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brianp-beme 09-29-2024 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonL (Post 2464178)
Hi Ted,
Great story and nice cards!
I was wondering - is there a generally accepted opinion on how many of the 1949 Bowman PCL cards exist today?
Thanks!
Jason

We lost Ted and his wonderful wealth of knowledge at the end of last year (or it might have been the beginning of this year).

Perhaps someone else on here has an idea about this topic?


Brian

ALR-bishop 09-29-2024 12:45 PM

I do not know how many of the PCL cards were produced or how many still exist. I was finally able to complete the set but it ws a long road finding them all, despite the fact there are no real big names in the set.

Mark Macrae who co authored the 49 PCL article with Ted is a member and has posted about it. There is also a subsequent article by Tim Jenkins for SABR

ALR-bishop 09-29-2024 12:48 PM

Here is a post war thread on the set where Mark posted some info

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=348776

Jenkins article

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...M6OLk0Xn4vInA-

jingram058 09-29-2024 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2464238)
We lost Ted and his wonderful wealth of knowledge at the end of last year (or it might have been the beginning of this year).

Perhaps someone else on here has an idea about this topic?


Brian

Things really haven't been the same. He was a veritable fountain of knowledge, and he was nice about it.

Leon 09-29-2024 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jingram058 (Post 2464322)
Things really haven't been the same. He was a veritable fountain of knowledge, and he was nice about it.

+1 I miss Ted. He was a good guy.
.

Vintagedeputy 09-29-2024 08:05 PM

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My only 49 Bowman, Bobby Doerr

GasHouseGang 09-29-2024 08:18 PM

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I only have three myself. This is my favorite.

Casey2296 09-29-2024 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2464324)
+1 I miss Ted. He was a good guy.
.

+2 I miss Ted.

Seven 09-30-2024 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2464372)
+2 I miss Ted.

+3

I miss him as well. Especially our email conversations that I used to have with him. A kind soul that we wish could've been around forever.

JasonL 10-02-2024 12:28 PM

The Bowman PCL...How many? (Very Sorry)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2464238)
We lost Ted and his wonderful wealth of knowledge at the end of last year (or it might have been the beginning of this year).

Perhaps someone else on here has an idea about this topic?


Brian



Oh! My gosh, I am sorry to hear that, and certainly didn't mean to sound insensitive. I have been a member here for maybe about 20 years, but my attention has been very spotty over the last several years. Ted was fantastic to "listen to" for a long time!

Thanks for the reply on his behalf.
Jason

Seven 10-03-2024 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonL (Post 2465070)
Oh! My gosh, I am sorry to hear that, and certainly didn't mean to sound insensitive. I have been a member here for maybe about 20 years, but my attention has been very spotty over the last several years. Ted was fantastic to "listen to" for a long time!

Thanks for the reply on his behalf.
Jason

Jason,

While I can't speak for others, I didn't think you sounded insensitive at all! Also, I'm of the opinion that the best way to continue the legacy of such a kind person is to continue to talk about him, his contributions and the stories many of us have with him; whether it's an experience at a show or simply interacting with his posts.

Ted entertained my questions for hours when I was a kid, up in Cooperstown and I was able to reconnect with him as an adult through Net54 and even go to a Philly Show to see him, before he passed. I'll talk about him for as long as I'm involved in this hobby and I'm sure others feel the same way. You take care.

- James


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