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Bpm0014 11-22-2017 07:26 AM

I by no means am predatory and you can ask anyone on here who has ever dealt with me.. I am as honest a person as they comes and truthfully I hope someone will chime in here in regards to this.

I'll chime in. I've done numerous deals with Stephen. I've never met him, never knew him before Net54, but a class act all the way who's always asking questions and always trying to learn more about the hobby whom I never mind helping out. Ever.

Brendan

bnorth 11-22-2017 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722356)
Whats the brick and mortar store have to do with anything? I never understood your point.

Also the card I got from you in the 2nd transaction... well let's not get into that.

I ask about the Brick and Mortar store because you always claim to just be a collector. I received 2 items from you with Top Tier Collectibles as a return address and your personal email address used to be the stores contact email address. Do you work there?

As far as the second transaction. You traded me $20(your #) worth of error cards and I sent you a 1933 Goudey Tony Lazzeri. I told you it was a beater and sent scans of the front and back. Seriously how much more did you want my trade card to be worth compared to the $20 cards you sent me?

frankbmd 11-22-2017 07:34 AM

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Stephen,

To become a major force in the hobby, which is your stated intent, I would suggest starting here with a vintage book published in 1936, but still available.

Attachment 295808

However, if you want to continue your present trajectory, going deeper may only require a better tool.

Attachment 295809

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 07:39 AM

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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1722769)
I ask about the Brick and Mortar store because you always claim to just be a collector. I received 2 items from you with Top Tier Collectibles as a return address and your personal email address used to be the stores contact email address. Do you work there? As far as the second transaction. You traded me $20(your #) worth of error cards and I sent you a 1933 Goudey Tony Lazzeri. I told you it was a beater and sent scans of the front and back. Seriously how much more did you want my trade card to be worth compared to the $20 cards you sent me?

Let's address this first. I opened up a store front for 3 months back in 2013 at 27 years old where I sold Fatheads, McFarlands figurines, shiny new baseball card boxes, and memorabilia which I took in on consignment when I opened the doors.

Foot traffic was absolutely putrid so I closed the doors and sold my inventory off online and to local dealers.

I not only worked there, I was the only employee, and it was my store! lol

I don't know if you are aware, but you can make any address your business address even if you know longer have a business location... BEN'S SPORTS CARDS and then your address. It's easy.


Secondly,

I sent you way more than $20 worth of error cards as someone offered me $35 for them (the seaver was worth more than $20 alone) and you said your Lazzeri was at least a $50 card if I recall.

Turns out I got a beater that when the customer I sold it to submitted it, it came back altered which I am sure you had no idea about...?

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1722771)
Stephen,

To become a major force in the hobby, which is your stated intent, I would suggest starting here with a vintage book published in 1936, but still available.

Attachment 295808

However, if you want to continue your present trajectory, going deeper may only require a better tool.

Attachment 295809

The people I am not influencing are people I wouldn't want to deal with anyways. I want to attract people whom I enjoy speaking to and enjoy doing business with.

Also, didn't you PM me once saying you were never talking to me again because I wouldn't trade my T205 Walter Johnson for you PSA 7 1956 Topps Jackie Robinson that was over graded?

Why do you keep posting negative things towards me in my threads and / or adding fuel to the fire always?

sycks22 11-22-2017 07:55 AM

[QUOTE=EYECOLLECTVINTAGE;1722764]Ok I want to address this post.

If you don't like "offers" then set a floor or a BIN

I will be doing so after this thread. I used to and got away from it and don't know why I haven't gone back yet. I forgot in all honesty.

I guess coming to a national message board and debating this is more productive somehow.

It is definitely not productive, however I rarely vent, so I would like to to invoke my first amendment right.

If its in the BST then set a price. Either way, make it clear in the OP what in the hell you are talking about.

I have attempted to clarify myself through numerous replies on this thread. Not sure if you have seen them or read through them but I stated very clearly in replies and did my best to answer questions.

Coming to the same place to complain about buyers where you gain "knowledge" is bad form...argue with the same people you learn from.

This was not my intention, and I never made mention of any specific buyer on Net in my initial post. It was only after being provoked by certain buyers whom are culprits of what I am speaking about that I said something direct. As a "dealer" now, I am sure I am speaking for a lot of dealers with this post whether or not they will chime in and agree is another thing.

Others learn from past sales, similar examples and analyzing trends in the market place which seems to be over your head while you rely on these opinions to create a business model that quite frankly comes off as predatory.

It's not rocket science in all honesty. I don't deal much in cards, so I rely more on worth point, and past auction results at auction houses as well as advice from certain dealers that have taken me under their wings so to speak when making prices, due to the types of items I sell. I try to only offer unique items that are not easily attainable on the open market, and by effectively marketing them I hope to bring a profit. I by no means am predatory and you can ask anyone on here who has ever dealt with me.. I am as honest a person as they comes and truthfully I hope someone will chime in here in regards to this. I always work with people on price, and am a pretty easy person to deal with when I buy as well, as many can attest to.


How about make some contribution to this board? Where is your expertise?


I have tried numerous times to make contributions, most recent example being offering my advice of the message board to anyone that wanted help with Jackie Robinson autographs about a month ago. (feel free to go check) My expertise lies in Brooklyn Dodgers and Jackie Robinson, and I have definitely chimed in and helped those with questions pertaining to my area of knowledge.

This is a community, not some place to displace your passive-aggressive attitude to get what you want.

I totally agree with you here and maybe I should not have made this post, but I was getting a mad run of squids (term I use for slimy cheap buyers) and felt compelled to create a thread. Not sure what you mean by me using this thread to get what I want though. I did not want anything from this, just a mere outlet to let out my bottled up frustration, and I ran out of pages in my diary :)


As for you Mr. Dewey. Oh man oh man what shall we do with you?

Mr. Fake News himself.



no this is where I insert this from October 27th


Keep in mind I get this literally the day after the one at Leland's sells for $1650. Yea thanks for the offer.



to this i say




as well as you nickel and dimed me on a undated Boston Red Sox grand stand ticket back in February and actually purchased it because "it had Ted Williams number on it"



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Maybe it's just me, but if someone posted my paypal info on here I'd be pissed. I'd suggest you pull that down immediately.

Leon 11-22-2017 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sycks22 (Post 1722782)
Maybe it's just me, but if someone posted my paypal info on here I'd be pissed. I'd suggest you pull that down immediately.

What would someone do with paypal info?
My paypal account is leonl@flash.net.
if anyone wants to send me money please feel free to.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 07:57 AM

huh? I don't see the big deal Pete but I am sorry if it offended anyone.

ibuysportsephemera 11-22-2017 08:01 AM

I don't care if you are correct about him making offers...it is really bad form for you to post this. You should have just posted that you have emails that say differently and left it at that.

I have asked before and others have also asked....why is your eBay address California and your actual address New York?

Jeff

frankbmd 11-22-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1722783)
What would someone do with paypal info?
My paypal account is leonl@flash.net.
if anyone wants to send me money please feel free to.

Leon,

I still have some euros from our recent Mediterranean trip. Do you accept those?

Leon 11-22-2017 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1722788)
Leon,

I still have some euros from our recent Mediterranean trip. Do you accept those?

I am into Bitcoins, got any of those you can paypal me?

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera (Post 1722787)
I don't care if you are correct about him making offers...it is really bad form for you to post this. You should have just posted that you have emails that say differently and left it at that.

I have asked before and others have also asked....why is your eBay address California and your actual address New York?

Jeff

I answered this question every single time. I lived in California for some time in 2015 as a songwriter and was using eBay to put money in my pocket as a side job. I was registered in CA.

I have moved back to NY and have changed the address but it keeps showing CA. No idea why. I don't understand how it's a big deal in any way though. You buy from me you get your item. Who cares what state it came from? I pay NYS sales tax as well and file NYS returns.

Look at my feedback. I am 100000% on the up and up.

Never understood the big deal over this issue.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 08:08 AM

Now you know my life story in a nutshell everyone.

Anyone else want to share?

bnorth 11-22-2017 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722777)
Let's address this first. I opened up a store front for 3 months back in 2013 at 27 years old where I sold Fatheads, McFarlands figurines, shiny new baseball card boxes, and memorabilia which I took in on consignment when I opened the doors.

Foot traffic was absolutely putrid so I closed the doors and sold my inventory off online and to local dealers.

I not only worked there, I was the only employee, and it was my store! lol

I don't know if you are aware, but you can make any address your business address even if you know longer have a business location... BEN'S SPORTS CARDS and then your address. It's easy.


Secondly,

I sent you way more than $20 worth of error cards as someone offered me $35 for them (the seaver was worth more than $20 alone) and you said your Lazzeri was at least a $50 card if I recall.

Turns out I got a beater that when the customer I sold it to submitted it, it came back altered which I am sure you had no idea about...?

I call BS on your entire post. Your story has changed so much on this forum I like most do not believe a word you post. Even in this thread you have changed your story.:eek:

Last post in this thread as I was told never argue with an idiot. People reading might not be able to tell who is who.:D

Peter_Spaeth 11-22-2017 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1722788)
Leon,

I still have some euros from our recent Mediterranean trip. Do you accept those?

There is too much drachma on this thread, do you agree franc?

vintagetoppsguy 11-22-2017 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1722802)
There is too much drachma on this thread, do you agree franc?

Mark agrees :D

frankbmd 11-22-2017 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1722802)
There is too much drachma on this thread, do you agree franc?

And here's a shilling for your thoughts. Mark my words.

Bliggity 11-22-2017 09:02 AM

Euro killing me with these puns.

markf31 11-22-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722764)
It is definitely not productive, however I rarely vent, so I would like to to invoke my first amendment right.

I don't think you understand how the first amendment works.

Dewey 11-22-2017 09:45 AM

That's not me. You can continue to slander me, but like I said you have me confused with someone else. You showed private correspondence between you and a different net54 member. Not me. Bad form.

If bringing unique items to market means buying dirt cheap historicimages pictures that are worth about what you paid then trying to flip for 10x is what you have in mind, go nuts. You are free to do it, all in the name of being a force in this hobby. I am free to not trust you.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey (Post 1722834)
That's not me. You can continue to slander me, but like I said you have me confused with someone else. You showed private correspondence between you and a different net54 member. Not me. Bad form.

If bringing unique items to market means buying dirt cheap historicimages pictures that are worth about what you paid then trying to flip for 10x is what you have in mind, go nuts. You are free to do it, all in the name of being a force in this hobby. I am free to not trust you.

That is 100% my mistake then. How many Dewey's can there be? I apologize for that. I truly am sorry for the mix up. Thanks for talking trash about me anyways though.

trdcrdkid 11-22-2017 09:57 AM

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/u...nt-logo-01.jpg

Dewey 11-22-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722838)
That is 100% my mistake then. How many Dewey's can there be? I apologize for that. I truly am sorry for the mix up. Thanks for talking trash about me anyways though.

If you are sorry you will edit out the comments that lie about me and throw a different net54 member under the bus.

Marchillo 11-22-2017 10:16 AM

Dewey Evans - very underrated. Hit the most home runs in the American League in the 80's.

Dewey Decimal

Don't want to have all the fun.

Bliggity 11-22-2017 10:28 AM

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...ng/57085/dewey

vintagetoppsguy 11-22-2017 10:32 AM

Dewey all agree that this thread is ridiculous?

Sean 11-22-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bliggity (Post 1722850)

That's a good one, but in that photo the headline turned out to be wrong. :D

frankbmd 11-22-2017 10:35 AM

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Let's lawyer up.

Attachment 295847

pariah1107 11-22-2017 10:42 AM

Walk Card : The Dewey Pox Story

Peter_Spaeth 11-22-2017 10:43 AM

No dewy young miss who keeps resisting
All the time she keeps insisting

hangman62 11-22-2017 10:48 AM

dew
 
and don't dare forget \
Dewey Decimal System

1952boyntoncollector 11-22-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722774)
.

another famous period quote.

ill add '..."

1952boyntoncollector 11-22-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722779)
The people I am not influencing are people I wouldn't want to deal with anyways. I want to attract people whom I enjoy speaking to and enjoy doing business with.

Also, didn't you PM me once saying you were never talking to me again because I wouldn't trade my T205 Walter Johnson for you PSA 7 1956 Topps Jackie Robinson that was over graded?

Why do you keep posting negative things towards me in my threads and / or adding fuel to the fire always?

when you say the psa 7 1956 topps jackie robinson was over graded..was it later submitted and it receive a lower grade? or are you just throwing out accusations and opinions.


You also stated you were a songwriter in CA.... I hope you dont go on internet boards and ask for lyrics.

Dewey2007 11-22-2017 11:42 AM

I love all the great Dewey references! You all left out Donald's nephews: Huey, Dewey, and Louie

Whenever I meet someone new and tell them my name and get a quizzical look I always say "I'm the middle duck" and most get it...

frankbmd 11-22-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1722867)
when you say the psa 7 1956 topps jackie robinson was over graded..was it later submitted and it receive a lower grade? or are you just throwing out accusations and opinions.


You also stated you were a songwriter in CA.... I hope you dont go on internet boards and ask for lyrics.

PSA is incorrect.

7 is incorrect.

Over graded is an opinion.

Never let the facts interfere with your story.:eek:

Any one is welcome to send me a PM.

I will return a scan of the card that is still available.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1722889)
PSA is incorrect.

7 is incorrect.

Over graded is an opinion.

Never let the facts interfere with your story.:eek:

Any one is welcome to send me a PM.

I will return a scan of the card that is still available.

Even worse. was it a PSA 6?

frankbmd 11-22-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722890)
Even worse. was it a PSA 6?

Still wrong.

Guess again.:D

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1722891)
Still wrong.

Guess again.:D

Please don't say a PSA 5. That would be the worst offer ever.

pokerplyr80 11-22-2017 12:31 PM

The fact that you would post private emails and PayPal transactions on a public forum to try to make a point is beyond ridiculous. And it wasn't even from the person you were arguing with. In my opinion that is so far over the line of what should be considered acceptable behavior that I hope anyone who has read this thread thinks long and hard before considering doing business with you.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1722894)
The fact that you would post private emails and PayPal transactions on a public forum to try to make a point is beyond ridiculous. And it wasn't even from the person you were arguing with. In my opinion that is so far over the line of what should be considered acceptable behavior that I hope anyone who has read this thread thinks long and hard before considering doing business with you.

I have corrected the mistake and they have been deleted. I definitely disagree with you though, as if it was the right person, me posting those photos was 100% warranted to protect my reputation.

Shoeless Moe 11-22-2017 12:46 PM

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other Dewey watching this Dewey and Stephen go at it...

pokerplyr80 11-22-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722898)
I have corrected the mistake and they have been deleted. I definitely disagree with you though, as if it was the right person, me posting those photos was 100% warranted to protect my reputation.

In trying to protect your reputation you have ruined it in my opinion. It wasn't that great around here before this thread from the posts I have seen. I would have reached out to this other Dewey with a pm that said some thing like "hey remember this transaction" before publicly posting the details online. If it was the right guy he could have retracted his claim and apologized. If he refused I could then see a justification for posting private correspondence.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1722908)
In trying to protect your reputation you have ruined it in my opinion. It wasn't that great around here before this thread from the posts I have seen. I would have reached out to this other Dewey with a pm that said some thing like "hey remember this transaction" before publicly posting the details online. If it was the right guy he could have retracted his claim and apologized. If he refused I could then see a justification for posting private correspondence.

I have never done anything to anyone on here and every transaction I have done on here has gone flawless minus that one guy that scammed me and got banned.

How my reputation wasn't that good I do not understand.

But as my boy Lavar says.. HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING!



https://sportscardalbum.com/c/8k4097s1.jpg

Shoeless Moe 11-22-2017 01:15 PM

Not the guy I'd pick to represent me, but that aside I too have had flawless transactions with Dewey˛ hater, Stephen. Good dude!

pokerplyr80 11-22-2017 01:27 PM

You quoting Lavar Ball seems quite appropriate. Happy Thanks Giving.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 11-22-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1722934)
You quoting Lavar Ball seems quite appropriate. Happy Thanks Giving.

Damn no one can take a joke lol

Bpm0014 11-22-2017 01:39 PM

It wasn't that great around here before this thread

That's completely false.

He may be guilty of being a little aggressive, or eager to learn, or going full speed ahead without knowing much, and may have rubbed some of the veterans the wrong way........but his reputation was never in question. As someone who has done multiple deals with him, I'll attest to that.

steve B 11-22-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722940)
Damn no one can take a joke lol

Some jokes get old fast, and Lavar is one of them. FWIW Don't join him.

Leon 11-22-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EYECOLLECTVINTAGE (Post 1722940)
Damn no one can take a joke lol

As long as your next one isn't about a hundred year old lady you should be fine.


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