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I must confess that one of the advantages of the old flips is that sometimes you can only see the upper half of the cert number until you get the card.;)
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I was there may20
I walked in Tuesday with 2 cards (I live 40 miles from them). The 2 cards I got back were in the "old" style. Green borders, I had a card done by them in 2005 and the label looks the same. Unlesss I am not understanding the term "FLIP".
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Here is the new flip and it has been changed on the cards on their website...
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tHAT'S A SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT...PERSONALLY i THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO CARRY THE GREEN BORDER AROUND THE PERIPHERY.
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I agree. I like the "SGC" micro print watermarks throughout, but I think by leaving the green border on the flip, it would look very nice. Just my opinion. Can any of the photoshop experts create a SGC slab with the new flip, and put it a T-206 card in the pic? Just to see what it may look like? The cards they pictured on their website, were newer full sized cards. Tony |
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Agreed change will come no matter what, but I think that by simply adding a green border to the flip this will make thousands of collectors happy. Our old slabs may no longer be uniform with the new, but with the added green border they will at least look close.
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The new flip isn't TOO bad but I agree that the current one looks better. I'm also with the group that thinks the new flip would look much better with the green border.
Here's an idea of what the new flip would look like with a simple green border all the way around: http://i60.tinypic.com/24yp6pw.jpg |
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In my opinion, it looks better with the border. Novice collectors identify SGC with the flip. If you change the color scheme, people will notice.
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Like Tiger Woods changing his golf swing..
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The flip doesn't look as good, that is just the simple truth. :confused::confused::confused: |
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This looks better, but I would make the green border on top slightly thicker to match the style of the old ones.
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I agree .........I think they should consider the green border |
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I like the new website. I was not sure what you guys were referring to because my iPhone appears to link to a cached site that still looks like the old one. But when I logged on with an actual PC it goes to the new site. Looks good.
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Why on Earth would they change the flip so drastically? Looks very early 1990's, when all of those start-up grading companies were trying to break in...Bad idea. |
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Did you see the new flip just posted above? It is anything but poorly done or 1990s, in my not so humble opinion. It looks very nice to me but would be even better with a green border. I am not OCD and don't care as much about the holders as I do the cards.....and realize it does matter more to many other collectors so am not pushing my thoughts on others. I am merely giving one opinion. |
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I still need quite a few cards to complete my set. But Hey, turn lemons into lemonade. This adds a whole new dimension to my collection. I'm going to do a flip run, you know, kinda like T206 collectors do a back run of a certain player. ;) Jantz |
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I noticed that the new flip no longer has a bar code. Not sure if that's important to anyone. I know that sometimes I check the bar code to see if it matches w/ the cert # if I think the flip may be fake. That may no longer be necessary w/ the new watermark.
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I'n not in to graded cards (for the most part)
Any time I get one of Howe's cards that has been graded, by anyone, I bust it out and put it in the binder. But I've always thought that at some point and time (maybe card 300, or 500, or whatever) I'd send them all off to be graded, in hopes of getting consecutively numbered cards back. And I always thought it would be SGC I would send them too, because of the black gasket that makes any card pop compared to the plain plastic around others, and an overall look of elegance, compared to other graded cards.
Now, with this ugly white-for-the-most-part flip, which almost draws the eye to the flip instead of the card, guess I'll be saving all my money to buy more cards to go in to the binder, and forget about SGC. |
I agree with everyone who put the new borders in green. That design will stand out at a show, etore, etc. In addition, it takes the design out of the PRO, MGS design realm.
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C'mon. No need for fighting. Let's get back to what we are all in this hobby for . . . the flips . . .
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It's just....too....much!
New holder + new flip + new website Is equivalent to: New job + new house + new baby Way too much to bite off at one time. |
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How about infinite guaranteed days on autographed cards, I can't find that on their new site, yet that's what I was told after my 20 day guaranteed submission, 35 days later
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Are you saying that we should think for ourselves?!?!?! |
I love it when people who disagree with a majority claim most in the majority are just "following" leaders like lemmings (or want to be just part of "the crowd") and therefore their views can be discounted. Who are these leaders here? And why in the world would anyone here be afraid to express a contrary opinion?
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Maybe SGC should just man up. Definitely not seeing anyone man up over there.
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Has there been any response from SGC? It sounds like Leon has had some correspondence, but no actual company statement as of yet. It's just hard to believe that the current design is their best effort and the response in this thread has been overwhelmingly negative which you would think extends beyond the net54 community.
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I was told SGC will most likely put out a statement later today or tomorrow. They do read this board frequently and take the comments under consideration. I am sure they want to take care of their customers while improving as much as they can. Sometimes when decisions have to be made you can try to appease the masses but "everyone" will never be happy. It is impossible.
Personally I think if they put the green border around it then that is about all I could ask for. But I am not the masses, nor a set collector, nor a holder collector :) so it doesn't make as much difference to me as it does others. And I don't even know that putting a green border around it is feasible? Sometimes printing can be tricky.. And I hope I wasn't putting words in Frank's mouth before when I said what I thought he meant. That was a faux pas on my part. I can barely keep up with myself. I should add that my graded collection IS almost entirely in SGC holders. |
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You guys should cut Frank some slack...much of what he speaks is the truth...and he's a bit of a sarcastic...wise-ass kinda guy..like me...but he's a lot smarter than I.
On the note at hand...and in opposition of Franks words...I think the flip is very important in aiding in projecting the TPG's image. The Flip should be appealing to the eye...somewhat unique...be written in an easy to read/boldish type font...have some form of id #...and should state the issue and grade in a clear and concise manner...and I almost forgot...almost impossible to falsify. Additionally...if I were an established TPG with a good reputation...I'd want my Flip to remain recognizable and identifiable as mine...despite changes and evolution of the flip...while still complementing older versions of the flip. In summary I'd want my flip to be like a porsche 911...or vw beetle! |
question!
how do you pull up prior and current submission list on new sgc site?
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I'm one of the OCD set collectors who will be annoyed if this drastic change happens. But I'm trying to be less OCD, so I I'll do my best to roll with it.
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thanks t206hound! i'll try that. always something new to deal with.
i guess life is like that, if there was not something new all the time, life would be boresome. if sgc changes it format, we'll just have to change with it. been dealing with sgc for years. always been good to me. |
just checked sgc web site, they put a drop down "check invoice" on it.
not all data is inputted yet. but at least they are trying. |
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