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Sad to see a scumbag like Koffman try to ruin one of the few decent shows we have left in Massachusetts. Here's hoping justice is swift and harsh.
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Well...this just got a little more interesting. (grabs popcorn)
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Looks like it happened a while back. Curious how it all turned out. As near a smoking gun as it gets.
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chomp, chomp, chomp.... also eating popcorn, waiting for the train wreck...
Scott, are you sure that the ebay seller for the Cobb PC is the same person mentioned in the article for which you provided a link? If so, that doesn't prove anything.... chomp, chomp, chomp.... :rolleyes: Seriously, if this is the same person then people will draw their own conclusions about what this could really mean. Yo Flavius... if that article is about the seller of the Cobb PC then I hope you see what everyone is trying to tell you... better to be honest... In this case the article doesn't imply he's guilty of this other indiscretion (sale of the Cobb PC) but people may not give him the benefit of the doubt after they read that article... |
interesting how people who behave suspectly...tend to choose suspect names?!
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Earlier in this thread I compared some of the reactions here to villagers with pitchforks or a lynch mob. I guess I should also point out that sometimes they lynch a guilty man and sometimes the castle does need to be stormed.:D
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Why does it take any human being alive longer than the amount of time required to read the original post here to determine that the guy is a scumbag thief?? Has society fallen so far that people are using semantics to try to re-label what this guy did?
Assuming the OP is telling the truth (and from his approach here and the way other posters have treated him, it's pretty obvious the guy has plenty of integrity) then there's no question the ebayer is an excuse-ridden ripoff artist. Someone in his neck of the woods should take a shovel to his face. And let me explain this to Flavius in a way he might understand, since in one of his multiple stories he was a child during the 60's... The Professor is working on fixing the radio and stops by the Skipper and Gilligan's hut. While enjoying some coconut milk, he accidentally leaves his Ty Cobb baseball card there and returns to the lagoon. While swinging on his hammock, Gilligan sees it in the corner and grabs it up. Later on, after botching the chance for everyone to be rescued from the island, Gilligan ignores returning the card to the Professor and instead goes and sells the Cobb to Mr. Howell for a nice haul. Tell me, in what f_cking world is Gilligan not a thief????????? |
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Can he leave the country with a criminal record?
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It's from the UK but another WOW.
http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/sil...223331519.html |
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The basic concept of theft (Florida) is this: (1) you took something that wasn't yours (2) you did so with the intent to deprive the true owner of his use of the item.
(1) The card didn't belong to the seller and he knew it. (2) Selling the card deprives the true owner of its use. Legal reasoning aside selling something that doesn't belong to you is just wrong. |
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All jokes aside, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that the smart thing to do would have been to send the card back to the intended recipient immediately. Waiting for there to be a big stink about it doesn't really change anything, except for the legal aspect. In fact, I'd consider the moves kevino35 made to be even sleazier than just not returning the card and effectively stealing it. At least in that case he wouldn't be claiming to have done nothing wrong. In regards to "flavius," I slightly agree with a few bits and pieces of his statements. While an incident like this will certainly hurt his reputation (though reputation can be a bit overrated - what percent of people in the hobby will actually read this entire thread and remember it next time they deal with him? 10%?), legally I've seen very little evidence to prove that this seller really knew he was selling someone else's property. The guy does a lot of business, clearly - who's to say he didn't just figure he won the Cobb? I'm really not surprised, though. Actually, I'd almost consider it normal for most of the population to go the route Kevin did. Luckily, this hobby is a little more tight-knit than the general population and people like Kevin are rarer in prewar cards than postwar, memorabilia, and nonsports. As always, the best test of a man's character is when nobody (or very few people) are watching. |
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Do we really need a corrupt legal system to decide our morality? I just want to say that I hope it works out I have bought several items from Chris and all have been top notch.
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Give Chris his card back damn it !!! (seriously). Do the right thing.
This should be a no-brainer. It's his card, give it back to him. Sincerely, Clayton |
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I wanted to let everyone know I received my card today from Ebay seller kevino35. Thank you for everyones help in this matter. Happy V day.
Chris :) |
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Chris, glad to see the matter has been resolved.
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Glad to hear it
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High-five to kevino35 for doing the right thing & congrats Chris, I'm glad you got your card back :) Sincerely, Clayton |
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