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thetruthisoutthere 11-11-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 938741)
I'm confused.

These guys are thieves - they are making a living stealing from people. They have the absolute stupidest website on the planet, and the most ridiculous authentication policies. Their strategy is all designed for theft...period. Rather than trying to get them to prove they are legit (which is impossible), why don't you guys actually do something about them?

Seriously, you are all into collecting vintage autographs and I guess preserving the integrity of the autograph-collecting hobby - so go get him nailed. That's really the only solution to this.

Isn't there some procedure that leads to the authorities tossing them in jail?

What would you propose that "we" do, Scott?

Scott Garner 11-11-2011 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 938741)
I'm confused.

These guys are thieves - they are making a living stealing from people. They have the absolute stupidest website on the planet, and the most ridiculous authentication policies. Their strategy is all designed for theft...period. Rather than trying to get them to prove they are legit (which is impossible), why don't you guys actually do something about them?

Seriously, you are all into collecting vintage autographs and I guess preserving the integrity of the autograph-collecting hobby - so go get him nailed. That's really the only solution to this.

Isn't there some procedure that leads to the authorities tossing them in jail?

As poster boys, we're only interested in discrediting and blogging. We're not into really taking any real action. LOL ;) :rolleyes:

RichardSimon 11-11-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 938745)
As poster boys, we're only interested in discrediting and blogging. We're not into really taking any real action. LOL ;) :rolleyes:

Or you could try 1-800-catch-them-now and file a report.

Runscott 11-11-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 938744)
What would you propose that "we" do, Scott?

I have no idea - perhaps the answer is that there is nothing that can be done. If that's the case, then I'm really sorry for the autograph-collecting hobby.

But I do know that thieves HAVE been caught, and there must be a process that led to that occurring. Was it just accidental? Did someone who got ripped off get really pissed and grab hold like a pit bull until justice was served?

I don't see an issue with Colossal ripping off idiots - not being cold-hearted, but I don't trust autographs anyway, and buying from someone like Colossal is the stupidest of stupid ways to go about collecting. But to me the bigger issue is that these items will end up back in the market under a different name, and someone legit will put their stamp of approval on them (accidentally, of course). I know from reading this thread that that is a big worry of everyone. Can nothing be done to stop it?

Runscott 11-11-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 938745)
As poster boys, we're only interested in discrediting and blogging. We're not into really taking any real action. LOL ;) :rolleyes:

I have to admit, his coining of the term 'poster boys' was pretty funny. He's kind of laughing at our inability to take any real action. I'd love to see someone here prove him wrong.

steve B 11-11-2011 01:25 PM

Can my poster be one of those ones with the velvety background full of swirly colors that glows if you've got a blacklight...... please?
:D

Steve B

earlywynnfan 11-11-2011 03:27 PM

FWIW, the man from Colossal told me they'd sell any consignments I have and I'd get 60% of the proceeds.

Also, most of these items are from Myron's collection (funny how nobody there knows his last name) and he's had much success selling in the past through, wait for it, Coach's Corner! (You can't make this stuff up!)

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

thetruthisoutthere 11-11-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by earlywynnfan (Post 938832)
FWIW, the man from Colossal told me they'd sell any consignments I have and I'd get 60% of the proceeds.

Also, most of these items are from Myron's collection (funny how nobody there knows his last name) and he's had much success selling in the past through, wait for it, Coach's Corner! (You can't make this stuff up!)

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

Myron Abrams?

RichardSimon 11-11-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan (Post 938832)
FWIW, the man from Colossal told me they'd sell any consignments I have and I'd get 60% of the proceeds.

Also, most of these items are from Myron's collection (funny how nobody there knows his last name) and he's had much success selling in the past through, wait for it, Coach's Corner! (You can't make this stuff up!)

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

They actually told you that their commission fee is 40%?? :eek::eek:
Wonder who Myron got his stuff from???
What could he have paid for it to sell it at such bargain prices?

mighty bombjack 11-12-2011 10:17 AM

I can't believe how often the info on this website changes. Here is a quote from their current home page:

If you have any high-end autographs you want to consign, they must have a COA from a reputable 3rd party authenticator such as PSA, JSA, ACE, AAU, etc.

If I recall, none of the lots in their last auction had any COAs at all.

sylbry 11-12-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mighty bombjack (Post 939005)
If you have any high-end autographs you want to consign, they must have a COA from a reputable 3rd party authenticator such as PSA, JSA, ACE, AAU, etc.

What? No faith in their own COA and letters from forensic examiners?

Perhaps the constant website updating is not actually in response to this board. Rather it is damage control for the suckers who purchased their autographs, tried to list them on ebay only to have them removed, did a simple web search and found this thread, and now they want some answers from Rick.

The game used dealers that have gotten in hot water have been charged with mail fraud. Is Rick skirting this by doing live auctions? Feds can't get involved if it doesn't cross state lines, right?

steve B 11-13-2011 07:47 AM

The postal inspectors are the tough ones. I learned the other day that there's no statute of limitations on mail related crimes.

Steve B


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