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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 891274)

I agree. Plus any Obama-haters should take solace in the fact that he has in essence become W Jr. in his prosecution of the existing wars, his maintaining of Gitmo, his continued use of renditions, his continued use of warrantless wiretapping, his continued use of military tribunals, etc. And he's actually gone further than Bush with his increased use of predator drone strikes in Pakistan and his start of a third war in Libya. If not for Obama breaking all of his promises NOT to continue all of these, UBL may never have been found. So the right wingers should go easy on Obama today.

agreed.

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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix (Post 891269)

This is one of the most bizarre things about this,,,,I would think one of the first things they would do is release photo's of the dead bin Laden. But they didn't, and when the homeland security guy was fielding questions in the news/press conference, and was asked about providing photo's,,the guy (forgot his name, Bennen?) turned sort of red in the face and stammered out a bunch of nonsense.

When we killed Sadaam's son Uday, they provided photo's of his dead body so everyone could see it was him and it was true. Same with when they captured Sadaam. They even used to do it with the old gangsters who were wanted dead or alive.

But here, they quickly dump his body in the ocean and don't release pictures? Am I the only one who finds this as odd?

I think it's very, very odd. I think they're weighing the pros and cons with the cons being that its likely inflamatory and martyrizing. It sure leave a lot open to conspiracies though. My biggest reason for belief is in the comments coming from Al-Q people and Al Jazeera.

And +1 (2) for Mr. Novaks comment above. Ive seen a lot of people comment on who gets "credit" all over the place (moreso than politicians, so that should say something!). It seems nonsensical to me. Obviously, the soldiers on the scene and supporting staffs deserve the lions share of credit. They risked their lives, they performed the task at hand. Obama deserves some share of credit for making it the CIAs top priority and for having it happen on his watch. Bush deserves credit too for laying the foundation that was continued and led to certain information that was critical in the process. There's just no way something like this gets done without a huge amount of people contributing their parts to the effort. Its silly to think otherwise.

Irrelevant to other issues, it was impressive execution. To start, they'd never been in the compound before. I think they entire thing took 40 minutes.

I don't know what are the relevant cultural sentiments amongst Muslims, but I wonder if the Middle Eastern people realize that using one's wife as a human shield is about as shameul and cowardly an act as one can imagine of in the West. I wonder if they know how that detail comes across in the West.

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 891273)

Whether you're talking T206 baseball cards or dead terrorists, it's just common sense to keep a photographic record to provide as proof down the line if requested (especially when you're making a claim that you can safely assume will be challenged). I bet in the case of this dead terrorist, the United States did just that.

Nah no photos needed we can simply take ones word for it, maybe a more scientific approach to prove Osama is dead would be too start a survey thread.:)

Cheers,

John

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 891274)

Exactly on target. All of this is an indication that Obama is very smart and has figured out how the world really works.

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Originally Posted by lharri3600 (Post 891074)

WHAT NOW???

"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'm gonna call a couple of hard, pipe-hittin' n*****s to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch! You hear me talking, hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your a$$!"

http://www.tifr.us/storage/marsellus.png

Oh sorry...I guess this should have technically gone in the "favorite movie line" Thread! ;)

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 891372)

Exactly on target. All of this is an indication that Obama is very smart and has figured out how the world really works.

First he figured out how to get elected and then how the world really works. He's smart alright.

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 891378)

First he figured out how to get elected and then how the world really works. He's smart alright.

That's funny Jeff. I was thinking the same thing. :D