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thetahat 12-26-2019 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1941940)
Hey Greg- the top one has the 1969 trademark. It is moderately stiff felt. I also have earlier versions with tassels, but no trademark.

I'm pretty sure that the one in the middle is from the late 1970s. I have seen Astros team pics from the late 1970s with the white version of that pennant in the background.

I'm not sure about the year of the VET pennant, but I'd say late 70s early 80s. I still think it is interesting that most (if not all for some teams) pennants with these designs have the VET stamp. Did you pick up your Astros version long ago at a Phillies game (when you or your dad picked up the Rangers and Padres that you showed earlier) or more recently?

I think I got the blue one at a flea market many years ago. The three pennants I have pictured are all VET pennants, actually purchased at Veterans Stadium. Also I have a pic of my other Astros pennants (no VETs)

Duluth Eskimo 12-26-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 1941937)
Just added this to my collection.

That’s got to be a fairly tough pennant. Don’t think I’ve had that one before. I have a couple of Millers pennants in that design and have seen other teams, but not Cubs.

Duluth Eskimo 12-26-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1941878)
So I have decided to try and complete the 1969 set of team pennants (even though I have no more room to display). The cloth pennants from this set have a great texture to them, hard to describe but they are well made. While the 1969 MLB trademark was used seemingly for a few years, my guess is that the cloth '69s are exclusively from that year. So I want to complete the set entirely in cloth. As a side note, the Indians has a 1970 trademark which I had never seen elsewhere, and I recall seeing a 1968 TM'd Twins pennant. The Pilots is my favorite ….

Lastly … does anyone think that the Phillies pennant in the pic is a candidate for the bleach mixture? I live in the heart of Phillies country and this darn pennant is so hard to find, this yellowed one was all I could get in 20 years.

Some of these 1969 cloth pennants can be very difficult to find. There are different color variations for at least some of the teams as well.

bocca001 12-26-2019 09:08 PM

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I looked around a bit tonight and found all three of Greg's VET pennants (Reds, Pirates, Braves) on ebay wihtout the VET label. The Pirates pennant also exists with the ASCO symbol, and an almost identical Reds version with 1975 champs added also exists with the ASCO symbol.

I also came across this Braves pennant with a different label. Almost looks like an AB (for Atlanta Braves?)

Domer05 12-26-2019 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1942101)
I looked around a bit tonight and found all three of Greg's VET pennants (Reds, Pirates, Braves) on ebay wihtout the VET label. The Pirates pennant also exists with the ASCO symbol, and an almost identical Reds version with 1975 champs added also exists with the ASCO symbol.

I also came across this Braves pennant with a different label. Almost looks like an AB (for Atlanta Braves?)

Never seen this mark before.... "PB," perhaps? Could be "AB" as well....

As with "VET" and previous mystery marks we've debated, I feel pretty good this Atlanta Braves pennant was made by Trench. The two fonts used for the city and team match those used by Trench for many, many years. Same with the artwork, which I recall first seeing on some late 1950s pennants of theirs. And, by 1969 or so, MLB pennants were pretty much limited to Trench, ASCO, Keezer and WGN--with these last two being unlicensed, as best I can tell.

If so, that suggests this mark is likely a concessionaire's mark. Perhaps some new company running merch out of Fulton County Stadium?

Many of these suspected concessionaire's marks, I've noticed, consisted solely of initials, e.g., "ARA" (Aramark); "VET" (???); "WC" (??); "SS" (Sportservice); and "ABC" (ABC Vending Co.). Now "PB" / "AB." Doesn't give you much to research, does it? The only exceptions that come to mind were "Charles Shear" and "Canteen Corp." These concessioners, unlike the others, didn't hide their identities behind some vague initials.

bocca001 12-27-2019 12:49 PM

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Concessionaire's mark seems to make sense. Thanks, Kyle. The only other team I searched for was the Angels (I have a kid who likes Mike Trout). Other than figuring out that it would be much more affordable to be an Angels collector than a Giants collector, I did see a 70s looking pennant with an "M" mark. I think baseball Rob has a Giants pennant with this same mark. Likely concessionaire as well.

thetahat 12-29-2019 04:56 PM

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Rolled the dice on this one and tried the water/bleach solution ... came out just dandy! The “before” pic is a few posts back, it is picture with a few others ...

If anyone has any of these 1969 cloth pennants to sell, lemme know ...

ooo-ribay 12-29-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1942820)
Rolled the dice on this one and tried the water/bleach solution ... came out just dandy! The “before” pic is a few posts back, it is picture with a few others ...

If anyone has any of these 1969 cloth pennants to sell, lemme know ...

Right on! What mixture of bleach to water?

I did a quick search to see if I had a “cloth” 1969 Giants pennant. Not sure I do. Do you?

thetahat 12-30-2019 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1942869)
Right on! What mixture of bleach to water?

I did a quick search to see if I had a “cloth” 1969 Giants pennant. Not sure I do. Do you?

About 1/4 bleach and the rest water.

Nope, that’s one that I need. Actually I am just short of half the teams. It’s a cool looking series, possibly the last one before they went cheap.

ooo-ribay 12-30-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1942939)
About 1/4 bleach and the rest water.

Nope, that’s one that I need. Actually I am just short of half the teams. It’s a cool looking series, possibly the last one before they went cheap.

So, what am I looking for....MLB logo and cloth? Probably white?


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