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Exhibitman 09-01-2019 08:41 PM

That's the spirit! Love the misprints:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20Clubbers.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...te%20error.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...20misprint.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...nt%20brand.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Siebert.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...int%20Mets.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...en_%20rich.jpg

Exhibitman 09-01-2019 08:44 PM

Any rookie card collectors?

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...n%20miscut.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...t%20miscut.jpg

Cliff Bowman 09-01-2019 10:30 PM

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1966 Topps Venezuelan.

lowpopper 09-02-2019 04:19 AM

VENEZUELA

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/K8UAA...2O/s-l1600.jpg

ALR-bishop 09-02-2019 09:21 AM

I like my multiple Herrera more than my Herrer

https://oi1267.photobucket.com/album...539/img172.jpg

Cliff Bowman 09-02-2019 12:17 PM

Oops, never mind :o.

Cliff Bowman 09-02-2019 12:40 PM

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I always suspected that the 1958 Topps Enos Slaughter and Moe Drabowsky cards were side by side on the original uncut sheet because both can be found with a print defect of partially missing black ink on the backs, and it was confirmed by the recently auctioned 1958 second series uncut sheet. There are more than likely #183 Dave Jolly cards out there also affected by the print flaw.

Cliff Bowman 09-02-2019 12:57 PM

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The 1958 Topps Mickey Mantle and Jackie Jensen can be found with a printing flaw of partially missing black ink on the back of their cards, with the recently auctioned 1958 Topps second series uncut sheet it is confirmed that they were side by side on the sheet.

jp1216 09-02-2019 02:06 PM

Not pre-1980 but it's my favorite (Canseco 40/40 on top):

http://www.billripken.com/bucket/FF_Canseco.jpg

ALR-bishop 09-02-2019 03:37 PM

Cliff-- appreciate your detective work on those related 58 back defects, and help running them all down. Recurring but pretty scarce.

Jon-- great oddity of an iconic card

bnorth 09-02-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jp1216 (Post 1913807)
Not pre-1980 but it's my favorite (Canseco 40/40 on top):

http://www.billripken.com/bucket/FF_Canseco.jpg

Awesome card Jon. You must have an amazing Canseco collection.;)

Cliff Bowman 09-03-2019 06:39 PM

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An old friend of the variation thread was very gracious to send me a scan of his 58 Topps Dave Jolly print error card that fits in next to the 58 Enos Slaughter print error, now it looks like the card below Jolly, #189 George Susce, is probably affected with the missing black ink print flaw.

ALR-bishop 09-03-2019 07:48 PM

Great info Cliff

jp1216 09-04-2019 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 1914154)
An old friend of the variation thread was very gracious to send me a scan of his 58 Topps Dave Jolly print error card that fits in next to the 58 Enos Slaughter print error, now it looks like the card below Jolly, #189 George Susce, is probably affected with the missing black ink print flaw.

Looks like a 90 Topps Frank Thomas situation. Great find!

frankhardy 09-08-2019 02:02 PM

This one is not pre-1980, but I just discovered this in my McGwire box over the weekend. I know for a fact that it is reoccurring because I have 2 of these that are identical. I was just wondering if anybody knew how scarce it is, if at all. I do know that I searched Ebay and COMC and could not find another. Here it is.

<a href="https://postimg.cc/pyQgKzjc" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/NGZBqxjt/20190908-144902.jpg" alt="20190908-144902"/></a>

<a href="https://postimg.cc/QHXvmCk8" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/VLM1YbJC/20190908-144911.jpg" alt="20190908-144911"/></a>

sb1 09-19-2019 11:14 AM

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Not a print variation/error. But some kind of inventory label that got on the sheet before cutting, collating and packaging.

ALR-bishop 09-19-2019 12:25 PM

That's a good one sb

steve B 09-20-2019 01:53 PM

I've never seen anything like that before. It's one of the cooler cards I've seen.

rjax 09-20-2019 07:47 PM

Topps variations...
 
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I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...

rjax 09-20-2019 07:55 PM

Another variant...
 
I also have a blank front 1970-71 Maravich rookie...found in a small collection I picked up a few years ago...

Jcfowler6 09-20-2019 08:10 PM

I love cards like this.

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bnorth 09-21-2019 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjax (Post 1918313)
I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Fox and Stargel are NOT missing yellow error cards, they are altered. Both of those cards are faded from setting in the sun.

Jcfowler6 09-21-2019 06:02 AM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...63dfe06c77.jpg

Always liked the dash lines at the bottom on this one.


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ALR-bishop 09-21-2019 07:50 AM

Jon--- I like the Virdon. Do you know who is on the other card ? Calling DDBeat

Dan, following Ben's point take a look at the 63 Kaline thread on the forum page

Jcfowler6 09-21-2019 07:56 AM

Show...me...your print variations!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1918382)
Jon--- I like the Virdon. Do you know who is on the other card ? Calling DDBeat

Dan, following Ben's point take a look at the 63 Kaline thread on the forum page



Thanks Al. I think it’s Mudcat Grant.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...50f5f8f9b6.jpg

Added later- Yep it is for sure.
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deweyinthehall 09-21-2019 05:48 PM

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Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.

ALR-bishop 09-21-2019 05:57 PM

Maybe Moser could fix it

moeson 09-22-2019 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall (Post 1918512)
Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.

I have plenty of cards like this from 70s and 80s rack packs. That's how bad Topps' quality control was back then.

deweyinthehall 09-22-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by moeson (Post 1918595)
I have plenty of cards like this from 70s and 80s rack packs. That's how bad Topps' quality control was back then.

Really? This isn't just a case where the image is tilted; the piece of cardboard itself is diamond shaped, with no 90 degree angles. These things were in packs? They must have stood out like sore thumbs and most must have come out of the package damaged.

moeson 09-22-2019 01:42 PM

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moeson 09-22-2019 01:51 PM

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moeson 09-22-2019 01:58 PM

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A different type of mis-cut with this shortstop getting shorted twice!

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JollyElm 09-22-2019 03:21 PM

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moeson 09-22-2019 05:33 PM

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frankhardy 09-23-2019 07:44 AM

I have never been able to figure out why they placed cards on the sheet in a random order. Wouldn't it make sense to place the cards on the sheet in number order? Was there a method to it?

Cliff Bowman 09-23-2019 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankhardy (Post 1918794)
I have never been able to figure out why they placed cards on the sheet in a random order. Wouldn't it make sense to place the cards on the sheet in number order? Was there a method to it?

The reason they did that was to have random numbered cards in wax, rack, and cello packs rather than a bunch of consecutive numbered cards in those packs.

Tripredacus 10-01-2019 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1917965)
Not a print variation/error. But some kind of inventory label that got on the sheet before cutting, collating and packaging.

So this post motivated me of taking a picture of a similar card. It is from 2007, when Topps was making a bunch of Mickey Mantle cards. This one I pulled from a pack myself. The two interesting things about this card:
1. There is masking tape on the front of it.
2. The card is torn about a third of the way through where the tape is.

Here are the pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/MDyt8XNl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UmBNuJRl.jpg

I went and took pictures of just my Yankees errors. Not a lot of cards, only six cards in total. Only one is pre-1980, it is this 1976 Jim Hunter:
http://i.imgur.com/7SIrcuRl.jpg

I collect error cards of all sorts, including severly damaged, modified and defaced cards. BUT most of them are post 1980, so should I end up posting them into here, make a thread similar to this in the Modern Baseball cards section, or just make a thread for my own pictures? There is a lot of post 2000 content in this collect, including a lot of hockey cards.

ALR-bishop 10-01-2019 04:44 PM

We have had several post 80 variants in this thread but given the length of this thread it might be good to have a post 80 sister thread. Others may think otherwise.

That tape job is interesting. Maybe since the tape was added before insertion in the pack it qualifies as an intentional change to the card and thus a true variation :D

ALR-bishop 10-03-2019 04:58 PM

Finally found one of these

https://oi1267.photobucket.com/album...psxp4qqev9.jpg

Discussed by George Vrecheck in SCD article

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...7zBObuFfOmbJY-

swarmee 10-04-2019 01:04 PM

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1968...&size=original
1968 Topps - [Base] #369 - The Sporting News All Star Selection (Carl Yastrzemski)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Two recurring print defects on this one:
1) Black blemish in left banner
2) Red circle fisheye near B on cap

So three variations: regular, one with just black mark, and one with black mark and fisheye.

jbaskin 11-01-2019 01:23 PM

Is 1967 Topps yellow back a thing?
 
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Hi there,

I've been lurking a while and saw something that might be of discussion here. Saw this 1967 Topps Wilhelm card and the back was discolored. Does anyone know if this is fading or weird ink circumstances? I've seen others like this from different series (no apparent pattern), and one card who's back was brownish. I don't know what to make of it.

Joel

Cliff Bowman 11-03-2019 10:12 AM

Looks like the printing process was running low on green ink to me on the 1967 Wilhelm card.

pete zouras 11-03-2019 02:25 PM

I don't have a scan of the back
 
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But it doesn't go with the front.

MikeGarcia 11-03-2019 04:20 PM

The Back ??
 
Whose names are on the back ? That's very decent for a "two" -- is there a problem we can't see ?
..

insidethewrapper 11-03-2019 06:10 PM

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1976 Topps Thurman Munson.

1963Topps Set 11-03-2019 06:50 PM

Miscut
 
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From 1959.. Stan The Man!

Elberson 11-16-2019 05:24 AM

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I have a 78 topps Eddie Murray rc with ink dot, anybody else have any info?

sb1 11-16-2019 06:51 AM

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Not baseball, but an unusual 1970-71 Topps B-ball card with partially printed frame line.

swarmee 11-16-2019 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1921177)

So basically a sister variation to the Jackie Robinson with diamond logo cut off.

There is also a variation of this with white circle to the left of the Phillies ballcap in the diamond logo. I stopped counting when I saw 5 on COMC.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1955...&size=original
1955 Topps - [Base] #29 - Herm Wehmeier [GOOD]
Courtesy of COMC.com

ALR-bishop 11-16-2019 10:56 AM

John---here is SCD article on the Robinson and Herm. Note the Herm has a back variation that tracks the truncated front logo. Had not noticed the white mark

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9...7QjDQppuh3T3I-


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