Wonder what he was thinking ?

Similar to the recurring missing number on back of the 1969 485 Perry card, here his teammate is missing a letter of his last name in a recurring fashion.

Man, that 1973 Deron Johnson has a lot of recurring variations going on with it:
1) Left border gap
2) Black streak extending from border gap
3) Yellow smudge line across face
4) Blue bleed from top border (though much less pronounced than the Nolan Ryan)
5) Yellow dot below batting glove
6) Blue streaks on arm
7) This copy has a paintball splat (or lizard facing down) on his cap:
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973...71ad&size=zoom
8) Blue lines eye level on left border

And then, you've got to marvel at his sideburns. You know he never played for Steinbrenner...

Don’t know if this has been covered before but the word “league“ is misspelled on the back of the 52 Campy. Does a correct variation exist?


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Not as far as I know, but there is a back variant of the card. It is listed in the H&S super set. I would post one but it would be 214 days premature in the 52 Gallery thread

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...fyYbEWXalG85c-

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1958...&size=original
1958 Topps - [Base] #101.2 - Bobby Richardson (yellow name) [SGC*80*EX/NM*6]
Courtesy of COMC.com

In this yellow name variation, there is another variation where the top of the 'h' in Richardson is white. Recurring print defect, as seen also in this copy.

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1958...&size=original
1958 Topps - [Base] #101.2 - Bobby Richardson (yellow name)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Looks like on some versions the bottom of the h is impacted

I didn't read this entire thread, but I did do a search for Morgan and didn't see any hits for a 1966 Topps printing variation so if it is posted already I apologize.

I was looking through my 66 set in my binder last night when I saw something on my Morgan card below the S in Astros...I took it out to see if I could scrape it off and saw that it was actually red print. I looked through ebay and found the exact print error on only one other listing. I searched google images and saw another like this.


here is the one on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19379652802...MAAOSwNTpf1DJH

Here is mine and a graded one I found in google images

Good one Dan. Scarce, recurring and a major player in a neat set

Thanks Al. Looks like the ebay one got purchased...hope it was you or another Net54er who needs it.

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1972...&size=original
1972 Topps - [Base] #203 - Ron Blomberg
Courtesy of COMC.com

White loop in first E of YANKEES. Recurring print defect.

Show...me...your print variations!
 

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1953 Bowman Errors
 

I found these print errors at a card show last Saturday. The dealer had MANY 1953 Bowman Color cards for sale.
#19 Dark has a gold and a green dot on the NY logo in the bottom example. There are MANY of these on eBay as well as the correct version.
#34 Coan has yellowish dash over the letter on the cap in the top version. I saw one of these on eBay so it is not a one-off.
#103 Ennis has a yellow dot on the cap in the middle one and a green raindrop over his left eye in the lowest one. I have seen MANY of the yellow dot versions on eBay.
#124 Dressen has a red spot on the bill of his cap in the lower example. I am not sure how many of these are out there.

This is deja vu all over again, as I think maybe this has already been posted before? It seemed quite familiar to me when I 'discovered' it.

There's a definitive black line/hair hitting Carl's hat on a good number of these cards. Seems to me it probably wasn't corrected, so to speak, but the print sheet had the card in two different positions, one with the black line and one without, and (based on a quick look at COMC) the cards were seemingly printed in equal numbers...

Attachment 459477

Not sure if this is considered a print variation or just a card that missed a certain step of the process. But I found this checklist with Checklist in red today in a random notebook at my LCS. They had the regular one right next to it. As I said, not sure if it's a print variation or it just missed a step in the process of being made.


https://i.imgur.com/dD5ZKhc.jpg?1

Most non-1st series checklists from 1961-72 Topps' sets have some sort of minor variation as they were typically printed in two different series. This "variation" has been documented for years.

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1975...adb5&size=zoom
HOF RC Recurring print defect: magenta line extending from collar of Marc Hill. This one also seems to have a white blob next to ear, but it may just be an artifact of the photograph/scan.
The card I spotted on Blowout which led me to this one only had the magenta line:
https://i.imgur.com/yI1CI46.jpg

Variations lists moving
 

To all who may be referencing my variations lists at https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home
this is to let you know that Google has informed me that they are updating their formats and as of perhaps sometime in September the old format will no longer work.
I tried to see whether my pages will transfer into the new format, and they won't. I do not know how to make them work and am no longer interested in keeping these pages up to date like I used to do.
If anyone is capable of, and interested in, taking over these lists, moving them or whatever to keep them current, please lmk, you are welcome to do it. I hope someone will, as otherwise they will be gone sometime in September according to Google.
Best to all,
Richard Dingman

Richard

I wish I knew more about computers to help you out.

Your website is a fantastic source of material. I go to it at least once every few days. Been doing that for years.

I have taken your list of the 1960's variations and copied into an excel file. I then copied each year's listing into a separate tab.

Still have to clean them up but at least I'll have what is currently known.

Mike

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Not sure if this has been shown already, but the "V" just to the right of Gerry's hat appears to be recurring. As I do not recall seeing this font used on 70 Topps cards, I don't believe this is caused by a wet sheet transfer.

That’s pretty wild, the 67 Darrell Brandon and the 70 Joe Coleman can also be found with faint printed letters in the sky

This Arrigo card seemed familiar, but I may have been thinking of either the 67 Brandon or 70 Coleman cards. I don't have either...any images of these two?

I have never seen this variation until now. Thanks, now I need to get this for my variation collection.

The 67 Brandon is actually relatively easy to find, it has 'DI' in the sky over his arm in the sky. I thought I had a scan of the 70 Coleman but I was wrong, I bought one a couple of years on eBay after I first heard about it and had forgotten about it and have no clue where it is. It is similar to the Arrigo.

You're welcome...there were 2 copies on COMC yesterday... I did not look on ebay or Deans though.

Thank you Cliff for the image, I now know I don't have a copy of that Brandon card, but will begin the search.

Pardon my ignorance, what is this COMC you speak of? I looked all over eBay with many variations on searches and did not come across any. Thanks.....

EDIT: I found the site... great another place to spend my money at. I did not see any of the variations though. I just searched on Arrigo but got no variation hits.

Cheers,

There are a couple on Dean’s Cards unless someone just got them.

Sometimes, one variation will yield another and another, etc...

In this case the 1969 #47 Popovich has several well known factory induced front variations. Also known is a version of this card where some stats on the back are obscured. However, what I did not realize is that there appears to be at least 3 versions of the back with light print to completely obscured print....the backs with the obscured print appear to occur only on the emblem visible on front version.

And yes, on the bottom left Popovich card, the obscured print on the back extends onto the top edge Woody Fryman card obscuring some print on that card also.

Thanks, I only saw one and that is all I needed to see. It is on its way to my binder now.

Thanks!!!

I think I have one of the Coleman’s too. Does is look like a scripted Egyptian symbol ?

From memory it had part of a word in fancy script like the Arrigo in the upper left corner in the light blue sky. Hopefully you have one so I don’t have to go on an expedition to find mine. ETA, I thought the Arrigo and the Coleman might be side by side on the sheet but they are probably in different series with the number differential.

I grabbed the three or four on COMC (varying whiteness of the V) and will sell them at cost to Net54 members who want some. I think they were between 50 cents and a couple bucks.

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1970...zoom&side=back

See the line through the LEAGUE BATTING? I thought it was writing, but it seems to be a recurring print defect in various depths and lengths.

Post it if you can please. Thanks…

Will do so early next week.

Thank you….

Butch---not sure if this is what Cliff was referring to but it is recurring

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...-09_135533.jpg

Thank you for taking the time to track this down. I have seen that one repeated, I'll stop looking for wordy things now and add this one to my list as well.

Cheers, :)

I am looking for my 70 Joe Coleman and haven’t found it yet but I found some missing 76 Topps cards while searching for it, including this Blue Dots Dave Lopes Record Breaker that I will post as soon as my home computer comes back on.

I found the 1970 Topps Joe Coleman, it clearly has a word printed in the blue sky that starts with ‘DE’, goes into Coleman’s face and then ends to the right in the sky. I will post a scan as soon as my computer comes back into service.

You did me a favor asking for a scan of the 70 Topps Coleman, I found this missing card looking for the Coleman.

Here is the 70 Topps Joe Coleman with writing in the sky, I'm guessing it is 'DETROIT', maybe from the Tigers team card. The only reason I knew about this card was that someone listed a PSA 8(?) 1970 Topps Joe Coleman on eBay and described it as a print error and wanted something like $50 for it. I looked for another one cheaper and found this one right away, but it must be rare because I looked through a few hundred 70 Topps Coleman cards on the web very recently and couldn't find another one.

Neat card Cliff

I think I figured out where the ‘DETROIT’ came from on the 1970 Topps Joe Coleman card, it was still on the printing plate from a 1969-70 Topps Basketball Detroit Pistons card. If someone could post a scan of a 1969-70 Topps Basketball Detroit Pistons card I would appreciate it because my Xfinity box is fried and I can’t get on my home computer.

Nice card Cliff...in hand does it appear the lettering in the sky is caused by a wet-sheet transfer, or something else?

I am very certain that it was printed on the card and is residual from a 1969-70 Topps Basketball Detroit Pistons card that was still on the printing plate, similar to the 1967 Topps Baseball 2nd Series cards that can be found with those fold out comic book images on the front. Unfortunately my home computer is down and I can’t show a scan of a 1969-70 Topps Basketball Detroit Pistons card, I’m just glad I was able to get it to work last night and post the scan of the Coleman card.

Thank you, Mr. Fisk 😊.

Bob is useful now and then

That's very strange!

For the early printing done from stones they erased them and reused them, but I'm having a hard time seeing how the coated aluminum plates used in the 60's-70's could have been resurfaced or rexposed to make a different plate.

I wonder if they were using old partly printed sheets somewhere in the production process.
Or maybe using a blanket that was so worn the image was still there, worn into it from a previous job?

Or..... just maybe they used old plates for the glosscoat?

(This may now be common as the presses make the plate digitally without needing to mount a new one)

Very similar error to what happened with Magic: The Gathering card game 20 years ago.
https://www.misprintedmtg.com/peanuts

I've been looking for this Kaline Band Aid card on and off for a few years since learning about it on Net54. It showed up on ebay a few days ago for a really good price. Excited to get it.

I don't remember hearing about this card back in the day (collecting in the 1970s/1980s), when it seemed like there was lots of attention on error cards. Was this card well-known/collected for years? Or did it only more recently get attention?

Thanks for the Coleman scan and glad you found the Lopes blue splatter too. Now my quest for the Coleman begins.

Beautiful card which looks great for the listed grade. Can't believe it didn't at least get the half grade bump for solid centering.

Like many variations the first I heard about it was from an eBay seller, on this one I'm guessing 7-10 years ago. I saw his listing and was skeptical until I saw the scan and was instantly convinced it was a legit variation. Hopefully Darren (JollyElm) can recall when and how he found out about the 73 Topps Kaline Band-Aid variation.

As a variation nut, I actually 'discovered' this one on my own a long time ago, sometime in the earlier 90's IIRC? Never heard of it (and I'm sure someone out there before me can claim the actual discovery as their own), but found/noticed one (among multiple Kalines) inside the huge box of 1973's my brothers and I had amassed, and I've been looking for them ever since. Sold a couple at healthy prices, and interest seems to be skyrocketing.

I will point out this card is cursed!! Seemingly every time I put one of mine out there for trade or sale, some sc_mbag comes out of woodwork trying to take it off of my hands for nothing. All they see are dollar signs and nothing else matters. They usually take the exact same approach, from pretending their interest is tepid by saying they 'might' be interested in the card, to pretending it's not worth anything by saying, "You know, elm, you and I are probably the only ones who collect this guy," to offering me nothing but crap for it, to spewing out the hatred when I don't fall for their obvious BS. It's like they're reading from the same script. They want the card and it doesn't matter one bit that I don't want (can't use, etc.) what they insist I take for it. I just laugh and think, "What the hell is wrong with these people??!!" Sorry for the rant, but this card is just a grief maker!! Whenever I get a PM with the subject line being "1973 Kaline," I just think, "Crap, here we go again!!"

Hopefully, your results will vary. :rolleyes:

Thanks, guys. The card is much nicer that I had expected to find and will hang out on a shelf with my other favorite error/variation (1989 Fleer Randy Johnson(s)). I'm also pennant collector and I do collect pennant errors/variations. Hopefully I don't taint this card thread by posting one pennant here.

Very nice card. Most are way off center.

I know exactly how you feel...I posted a 69 567 no black outline card one time and got the same type of ridiculous messages in regards to it. Heard some great stories though...entertaining even.

I don't know if this has been reported, but I noticed this variation on the 1955 Elmer Valo. At the bottom of the front the red box corner, lower right is clipped off in the variation. On the back of the variation his batting average doesn't have a decimal point (.280) but is shown as 280.

Unless they are already known, it’s incredible that either one of those on the 55 Valo went undiscovered for 66 years. They’re both new to me.

I'm surprised too. I looked it up on the list of variations and didn't see it. I also checked on Ebay and saw both versions for sale. So it appears to be a real variation.

Great find....now to find the one I need...

1957 Detroit Tigers Team Card
 

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Both vars :http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...STEAMS_NEW.JPG


...White uniforms -brown grass and blue uniforms -green grass

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I do think you can find at least two versions of every 57 card with coloring differences such as this one. I think someone offered a bunch of examples in this or another thread

The great blues and greens shade wars of 1957 :
 

Yes ; pretty sure it was this thread ---here's what I shared in 2017 :

..http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...ATHEWS_NEW.JPG

..A true master set of 1957 Topps is now up to 800 or so....

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I am the guy who started this nightmare back when. I have four complete sets of 1957 plus a partial set and there are many differences. I scanned all 407 cards and have these color variants as well.

Several years have "blue tints" like this; where it's not just a color being darker in a print run but the color present in places it should not be. 1968 football and 1971 football are pretty obvious, 1967 baseball has them in at least a couple of the series.

1957 has at least two of each card, some have red tint, blue tint and a "proper" one.

I count these as true variations, though it makes my spreadsheets a pain to manage sometimes.

And while I'm thinking about 1967 Topps and happen to have my box out:

139 Dalton Jones - Blue line in top border or correct.

198 Chuck Hiller - Blue line in bottom border, or correct.

323 Herhbserger - Blue in team name on front extends low (not the color layer being mis-set), or correct

326 - Uecker, white line through position, height and and birth year on back. Tough.

382 Dave Mcnally can be found with a white line through the first line of his text biography write up on back. Also green smear in the lower left of his stat boxes, as well as the known purple object variation. Some are tough.

399 Worthington - Green hangs below the black divider at top of the stat area, or correct.

403 Dick Nen - Green spots on both arms, or correct. Not the easiest.

412 astro's Rookies - some copies show the edge of a stat box on the back right, even when they are not at all miscut to show an adjacent card. Easy

438 Chuck Dobson - several versions with the cartoon white extending high, extra white and green squiggly shapes below the cartoons, green ink bleed into the cartoon, Athletics logo on front extending low. At least 5 combinations


I can show them but Net54 hates iPhone pics and requires a downsizing process that takes too much time and ruins the quality a lot. Apologies if I missed these being publicly known, I don't think any of them are.

Part of A in BASE missing. Recurring.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1974...&size=original
1974 Topps - [Base] #283 - Mike Schmidt
Courtesy of COMC.com

Yellow bleed throughout card and above border (similar to 1973 Topps Nolan Ryan blue bleed)
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1974...&size=original
1974 Topps - [Base] #283 - Mike Schmidt
Courtesy of COMC.com

And although Post-1980, Cal Ripken Jr after just eating a ballpark hotdog (Via blowout):
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1483713
Not sure if it's just a big fisheye defect or a recurring.

Thank you!! I collect those 1974 Topps yellow ink bleed print flaw cards, many cards on the 265-396 sheet are affected but I didn't know of a #283 Schmidt. If you run across anymore please post them.

Notice on the reverse of each card that the red is to the right on the variation with the clipped corner.

This is a good one, and not hard to find

I've seen a couple of these Ernie Banks '56 Topps pins with the same blue blotch at the three o'clock position.

The three shades of Leron Lee. The green around his name has three shades. light / dark / darker. The dark/darker is easier to notice in hand not as much here.
Attachment 477071

Lindy McDaniel the Royal A.
I guess a fleck of paper blocked the ink from getting on the card.
Attachment 477072

Sorting through some 1973's and saw this Billy Wilson #619 with the bottom of the baseball solid black (below the number). Out of 10 or so I have 2 like this.

The ink and print looks all the same...ie no variation in the laces tint when looked at in the light vs the black ink shining (if it was colored in)

Can anyone else confirm the variation?

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It could be argued if it is a variation or a print flaw, but I saw two on COMC and one on Dean's Cards so it is definitely recurring.