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Sliphorn 06-10-2018 12:29 PM

1952 #48 Jpe Page Black Backs
 
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Notice the spot on the cap of the left version. Yes, it is pretty ticky tacky, but it is recurring on LOTS of these black back versions.

ALR-bishop 06-10-2018 01:32 PM

Does the mark appear on both the Page and Sain bio versions of the black back Page ?

savedfrommyspokes 06-12-2018 09:18 AM

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Noticed on this 1960 485 Boyer card that there is a random thin white line located in the blue box...it appears to be recurring but limited.

Sliphorn 06-14-2018 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1785459)
Does the mark appear on both the Page and Sain bio versions of the black back Page ?

I only see it on the correct version with the Page bio.

Sliphorn 06-16-2018 06:17 PM

1958 #161 Larsen
 
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Obviously a smeared paint error.

savedfrommyspokes 06-18-2018 07:54 AM

1970 topps 507 white triangle
 
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Nice smeared print error on that Larsen.


Recently noticed this recurring white triangle on/under the "C" in Corrales. On the left copy, the red print spots could be an additional print variation, just didn't notice any other copies with those spots.

DVCARDS 06-26-2018 02:47 PM

1967 Topps - Too Much Blank Ink?
 
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Part of the player and team names dont appear. There is black ink printing on the white border.

ALR-bishop 06-26-2018 03:56 PM

Good one Don. Not recurring I would guess

irv 06-26-2018 07:10 PM

I messed up. :D

savedfrommyspokes 08-20-2018 10:38 AM

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Similar, but not appearing to be as rare as the Hickman/Duffy yellow instead of green variations, this Ollie Brown card features either a green or a yellow circle around Brown's name. The upper portions of this border seem to be a more similar color than the bottom portions.

Sliphorn 08-21-2018 01:49 PM

1961 #63 Kaat
 
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Notice on this that the lower version has the team name outlined in red.

JollyElm 08-24-2018 03:51 PM

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Time for a disclaimer: The thread is too long to search through, so maybe someone has posted this one before? Dunno.

This is a continuation of the 1969 #476 White Letter variation. It comes both with and without the recurring yellow/white 'flames' emanating from the "C" area...

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savedfrommyspokes 08-24-2018 09:00 PM

Nice find. Is this WL variation like the Perry, can it be found in both the WL and the regular?

JollyElm 08-24-2018 11:41 PM

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I've only seen it on the WL cards. The weird thing is the white letter cards are missing the yellow printing, yet those flames have yellow in them.

In the regular version of the card (after a quick search) I found some very minor anomalies in that area, like these...

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nolemmings 09-02-2018 10:22 AM

Didn't know if anyone had reported this Danny Cater "white cloud blotch" that I came across yesterday--sorry if it's been covered already:
https://photos.imageevent.com/imover...ge/cater69.jpg
It is far more noticeable in hand than shows in the scan.

Here's a PSA scan currently on ebay that shows a hint of the same wispy white whatever
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VX4AA...-P/s-l1600.jpg

JLange 09-03-2018 08:29 PM

1950 R423 #31 Bob Feller variations
 
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I thought I was upgrading my 1950 R423 #31 Bob Feller to a nicer centered version, but instead I now I have two different versions due to perforation and cropping differences. One is perforated both sides, the other is only perforated on the right side. Note the shifted image of Feller as well. Both backs are orange. Looks like I am keeping both!

savedfrommyspokes 09-07-2018 10:56 AM

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With the recent attention on HOFer cards with print variations, here is one I noticed today.....the small blue dot on Fergie's stomach is recurring, but limited.

savedfrommyspokes 09-12-2018 09:00 AM

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Found this limited, but recurring, factory print line along the top edge of this 57 Crone card. Any ideas as to which card, if any, appears to the left of this card?

savedfrommyspokes 09-21-2018 09:05 AM

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I have been looking for this one for a while, but have not come across one until today....this one came in the mail today. The "A" in "Athletics" is obscured.

ALR-bishop 09-21-2018 01:16 PM

This thread needs an index or a detailed table of contents

savedfrommyspokes 09-21-2018 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1814403)
This thread needs an index or a detailed table of contents

It for sure does....until there is one, I will keep using Richard D's list as my non-visual index

Al, does your copy of this card have the same amount obscured on the letter "A"?

swarmee 09-21-2018 02:03 PM

I would take the first 100 posts if 11 other guys follow suit and claim 100 posts each. Preferred format:
Year, Set Name, Card #, Player Name, Variation description, Post #

I will get to work on it now.

1953, Topps, 144, Bob Schultz, Different clouds in sky, Post 10
1953, Topps, 164, Frank Shea, Different clouds in sky, Post 10
1956, Topps, 108, Laurin Pepper, Yellow spot on right edge, Post 8
1960, Topps, 52, Dave Philley, ???, Post 8
1960, Topps, 556, Charlie Neal AS, Shadow is see-through, Post 2
1961, Topps, 230, Don Hoak, Green belt/border spots, Post 7
1963, Topps, 79, 1st Series Checklist, ???, Post 8
1969, Topps, 343, Danny Frisella, Back is white, Post 3
1972, Topps, 18, Juan Pizarro, Image has greenish overlay, Post 8
1974, Topps, 1, All-Time HR Leaders, Top border runs, 8
1975, Topps, 223, Robin Yount RC, Print dot below R?, Post 4
1975, Topps, 223, Robin Yount RC, Blue puddle over Y, CU Board
1978, Topps, 197, Nino Espinosa, Afro airbrushed?, Post 8
1978, Topps, 374, Jose Morales, Magenta laces on ball, Post 8
1978, Topps, 540, Steve Carlton, Right border whiteout, Post 8
1990, Topps, 454, Jeff King, Back background completely yellow, Post 4

ALR-bishop 09-21-2018 03:24 PM

I may not be as quick as John, but I will take 101 to 200...since it was my dumb idea

John-- are you going to just continue your list in post 1122 ? If so, I will put my list in this post

swarmee 09-21-2018 03:53 PM

Yes, once we get them all filled out, we can do a sort and start another thread for the index.

JollyElm 09-21-2018 05:45 PM

I will take 201-300.

The best move would be to ask the OP to add this nascent (nice usage, huh?) glossary to the very first post. That way it will be readily accessible to everybody in a snap. Updates could be added here and there as his time dictates.

Let's try to have matching formats for a seamless process. I suggest:

Year TAB Company TAB Card # TAB Player Name/Card Title TAB SPACE DASH SPACE What the variation is

Like so:
1969 Topps 500 Mickey Mantle - Last name in white

ALR-bishop 09-21-2018 06:45 PM

Joe has not posted a lot recently in here but I think he is still active on the board

JollyElm 09-22-2018 02:06 AM

1956 Topps 302 Eddie Robinson - Missing stats under “2b” and “3b”
1956 Topps 321 Jim Konstanty - Incomplete green box under “Walks/E.R.Avg.”
1957 Topps 220 Jackie Jensen - Overly green
1957 Topps 353 Cal neeman - Scratchy black mark appears to the right of his hat
1959 Topps 78 Pedro Ramos - Yellow line at top orange border
1960 Topps 39 Earl Averill - White streaks on right side of yellow box
1960 Topps 10 Ernie Banks - Blue printer’s notes (with the word “SECTION”) appear beyond the bottom border
1961 Topps 298 Jim Golden - Card number looks to be “293”
1962 Topps 367 Checklist - Notch of white missing in upper left
1962 Topps 367 Checklist - Notch of white missing in lower right
1962 Topps 252 Fred Scherman - Stray yellow dots under team name
1963 Topps 173 Bombers’ Best - Bat at Mickey’s crotch sort of fades into his pants
1963 Topps 39 Angels Team - Small, curved red and blue marks appear at the top of the blue logo circle
1963 Topps 39 Angels Team - Small, curved red and blue marks appear at the top of the blue logo circle, and the trainer’s white pants have red/pink areas
1964 Topps 214 Ken McMullen - Wrong back of multiple 1964 cards
1966 Topps 522 Phil Linz - White streak from back/neck to right border
1967 Topps 195 Al Jackson - Right border break
1967 Topps 15 Earl Battey - Line under stats has a break/gap
1968 Topps 312 Curt Blefary - Slash obscures parts of “1964” and “1965” on back
1968 Topps 101 Glenn Beckert - White streak at right border
1969 Topps 109 Jim Lonborg - Varying degrees of red in the flag
1969 Topps 232 Dave Ricketts - “SLIT B” appears beyond the left border
1971 Topps 243 Carlos May - Green splotch on chin
1972 Topps 195 Orlando Cepeda - Right border break
1972 Topps 300 Hank Aaron IA - White streak crosses his thighs
1972 Topps 574 Fritz Peterson IA - Excess strip of red below the bottom border
1972 Topps 556 Ron Santo IA - With “rainbow swirl”
1972 Topps 556 Ron Santo IA - Border breaks (no “rainbow swirl”)
1973 Topps 1 All Time Home Run Leaders - Yellow bleeds into the pictures and beyond the borders
1973 Topps 280 Al Kaline - Bandage on his forehead
1976 Topps 618T Jack Brohamer - With “peeling” black brackground
1977 Topps 97 Dave Heaverlo - Light green rectangle on glove
1978 Topps 14 Lerrin LaGrow - Position missing????
1978 Topps 454 Dave LaRoche - Part of right green border is blue
1979 Topps 458?? Jim Essian - Possible proof, showing Tug Mcgraw
1979 Topps 250 Willie Randolph - Wrong back of 1978 Topps
1988 Topps 381 Angels Leaders - Pink slash on Joyner's sleeve

swarmee 09-22-2018 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1814555)
1988 Topps 381 Angels Leaders - Undefined???

You should be also putting in the Post # so that we know where to look for these pictures. But this one is likely to be the pink line on sleeve. It's being talked about on the PSA boards right now:
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-magenta-slash

savedfrommyspokes 09-22-2018 07:02 AM

Not sure how many folks use Richard's list for variations. He updates his list regularly from many sources including this thread as well as other posts on this board concerning variations that are not in this thread. In other words, his list contains more variations than just the ones mentioned in this thread. While I consider his list as an incredible resource as it is, there is one thing I would add to it if there was ever time on my end(there is not). That would be to add clickable links to images showing the variation itself on the card mentioned.

I have posted the link to his site multiple times, but here it is again:

https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/

For those who enjoy making trades, he has his wants and extras included also.

swarmee 09-22-2018 07:07 AM

So it's probably unnecessary to do this, huh? Sounds good to me.

savedfrommyspokes 09-22-2018 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1814562)
You should be also putting in the Post # so that we know where to look for these pictures. But this one is likely to be the pink line on sleeve. It's being talked about on the PSA boards right now:
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...-magenta-slash

Would have been cheaper and easier for the CU OP to just check ebay for that commonly found variation card:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...genta&_sacat=0

savedfrommyspokes 09-22-2018 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1814570)
So it's probably unnecessary to do this, huh? Sounds good to me.

That is kind of what I was thinking......I have used his list for 6+ years and it has been an incredible resource.

ALR-bishop 09-22-2018 07:38 AM

So are we switching the effort to see if anything in our sections is not on Richards list, and then providing him that shorter list for possible incorporation into his ?

savedfrommyspokes 09-22-2018 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1814582)
So are we switching the effort to see if anything in our sections is not on Richards list, and then providing him that shorter list for possible incorporation into his ?

Can't say with 100% certainty that each variation from this thread is on his site, but over the years Richard has done an impeccable job aligning his site with what he has seen posted on this board. Obviously he does not keep up with the later 1970s cards, so any post 1975 cards in this thread won't be included. However, the vast majority of cards mentioned in this thread are pre 1975 so they will likely appear on his list. Over the years, I have posted some one off print variations in the thread and they appear on his list(in red as he does not have one yet).

Pat R 09-22-2018 07:52 AM

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For me the variations can be a fun addition in collecting. For the most
part I don't collect them but you can always pull out a box and see what
you can find.

This morning I grabbed a random box and a few cards in I found this
88 Topps Randy St. Claire variation. The letters extend down into his
cap (bottom right card). I haven't checked to see if it's a listed or even a
recurring variation.
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swarmee 09-22-2018 08:26 AM

Not a print defect, IMO, just a registration issue with the black plate. You can see the black line at the bottom is shifted down as well so there's a gap between it and the green border.

Pat R 09-22-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1814598)
Not a print defect, IMO, just a registration issue with the black plate. You can see the black line at the bottom is shifted down as well so there's a gap between it and the green border.

Yeah I see what you mean John. How about this one.
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swarmee 09-22-2018 12:21 PM

Yellow Fisheye in the bottom left corner? If it's a recurring print defect, it's worth listing. Most fisheyes are just one-off printing defects. This thread is more about recurring print defects seen on multiples of the same card.

Pat R 09-22-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1814656)
Yellow Fisheye in the bottom left corner? If it's a recurring print defect, it's worth listing. Most fisheyes are just one-off printing defects. This thread is more about recurring print defects seen on multiples of the same card.

I know these should be in the post 80's section but I saw there were
already quite a few post 80's cards posted in this thread.

Yellow spot in the G
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Yellow or Orange bands on the sleeves and neck and under the
mesh of the uniform.
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brightair 09-25-2018 06:24 PM

Variations lists
 
Folks,
Glad that my lists of variations has been helpful to some. Just a reminder though, although I started out trying to be as comprehensive as possible with every minor difference, I have been tightening my standards a bit in the last couple years to not include the most minor print errors, registration issues, random dots, etc. So I would expect that not every single item that has appeared in this thread will be in my lists, but nearly all, and certainly anything "substantial" (and the definition of that word I will leave up to each and every one of you.
Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and kept it exciting; there are still "treasures" out there, just waiting for the right pair of eyes.
Happy hunting!
Richard Dingman

Tripredacus 09-27-2018 01:43 PM

for a while I considered doing a master set of 1988 Topps for variations, but there is just too much. And I don't want to end up in the hole I did for 1990 Pro Set football, having over 10k cards of doubles I can't even give away. Now I just manage to keep the extreme printing errors from 1988 Topps, such as the diamond cuts, ink smears or extreme shifts. Printing errors in 1988 Topps are super common, so if you want an easy set to get those kinds of cards in, it would be a great set for that type of collection.

savedfrommyspokes 10-02-2018 09:32 AM

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Found this 59 572 card with a limited but recurring white print flare under "News"....

Sliphorn 10-02-2018 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 1816901)
Found this 59 572 card with a limited but recurring white print flare under "News"....

Thanks for posting. One thing I always need to do, and almost forgot with this one, is to look at what I already have first, before buying the needed variation. I started to pull the trigger on a COMC version of this but went to my shelf and saw that mine had this white line and simply bought a nice regular version that I now needed. I pushed the easy button on this one.

savedfrommyspokes 10-03-2018 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliphorn (Post 1817015)
Thanks for posting. One thing I always need to do, an almost forgot with this one, is to look at what I already have first, before buying the needed vacation. I started to pull the trigger on a COMC version of this but went to my shelf and saw that mine had this white line and simply bought a nice regular version that I now needed. I pushed the easy button on this one.

I have the same problem...remembering to check my set also....however, if I already have the "variation", I then feel compelled to buy the regular copy of the card.

Whenever a variation shows up in this thread, if I already have it, it is fun to watch and see how quick the available copy sells on COMC or ebay. The quickest I have seen is about 15 minutes from post to purchase.... was almost disappointed that this Pierce took most of the afternoon to sell.

ALR-bishop 10-03-2018 07:38 AM

The older I get , the slower I move.

Plus, when I end up having the variant and then need to buy the "normal" card, it often costs more than the variant originally.

bnorth 10-04-2018 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes (Post 1817117)
I have the same problem...remembering to check my set also....however, if I already have the "variation", I then feel compelled to buy the regular copy of the card.

Whenever a variation shows up in this thread, if I already have it, it is fun to watch and see how quick the available copy sells on COMC or ebay. The quickest I have seen is about 15 minutes from post to purchase.... was almost disappointed that this Pierce took most of the afternoon to sell.

LOL, I do the same thing. It is funny how a $.99 card is bought and relisted at $10 within minutes of being posted on here.

savedfrommyspokes 10-04-2018 02:59 PM

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LOL, I do the same thing. It is funny how a $.99 card is bought and relisted at $10 within minutes of being posted on here.

Just for some fun on an otherwise boring day so far, let's see if there are any takers on this one(I saw at least 2 on ebay)...limited, but recurring, small border break on the right border. My bet is on Al if he doesn't already have it and he's awake yet.

ALR-bishop 10-04-2018 04:02 PM

Maybe after my cataract surgery

savedfrommyspokes 10-08-2018 12:48 PM

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Hadn't noticed this one until today....white flare above Sparky's 1st name. Appears to be recurring but limited.

ALR-bishop 10-08-2018 01:52 PM

I already had one of these in my set when I looked, but do not remember how I found out about it . Are you sure it was not posted in here earlier ? I am too lazy to look :)


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