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Domer05 04-10-2019 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KrenBats (Post 1868882)
Hey guys, hoping to get your thoughts on this pennant I pick up recently. The seller listed it as 1930’s and it definitely has an old look to it. The older pennant I have all have the design screened/painted on. This pennant has the words and logo in felt and is not sewn on. Is this common? I’m questioning the authenticity. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have no opinion on the authenticity of this pennant. But, I did want to address your question about the felt letters/graphics and the way some manufacturers affixed these to the body of the pennant. You are correct that most manufacturers would sew the letters on. This was commonplace through the 1920s and 30s until screened/painted designs became the norm.

BUT, there was at least one manufacturer that glued the letters to the body. If you're able to examine one of these pennants in person, it'll be fairly obvious that the letters are felt; but, on the reverse, there'll be no stitching outlining the spot where each letter sits.

I suspect this was done to lower production costs. Running a sewing machine takes time and and an experienced operator. Glue ... not so much.

I don't think this production method ever really caught on. For one, glue tends to crack when a pennant is waved back and forth. It also breaks down with time. It had to be cheaper to just screen print the lettering and be done with it.

Fballguy 04-16-2019 07:53 PM

Time to defibrillate this thread...CLEAR!!!!

This baby just sold on Ebay while listed as an International League minor league baseball pennant...However, I feel that's wrong. This pennant is made of 1960s material (the baseball Bears disappeared around 1949) which would make it a Newark Bears Continental Football League pennant. The spine and tassels also scream 1960s. Curious what others thought.

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ooo-ribay 04-16-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1870800)
Time to defibrillate this thread...CLEAR!!!!

This baby just sold on Ebay while listed as an International League minor league baseball pennant...However, I feel that's wrong. This pennant is made of 1960s material (the baseball Bears disappeared around 1949) which would make it a Newark Bears Continental Football League pennant. The spine and tassels also scream 1960s. Curious what others thought.

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Don’t know, Rob, but it’s a great pennant. What did it go for?

Fballguy 04-16-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1870811)
Don’t know, Rob, but it’s a great pennant. What did it go for?

$144. Hope the buyer is a football fan.

perezfan 04-17-2019 09:52 AM

I would lean towards football as well. I have seen a few late 1940s Pennants with this cloth material and sporting these "flimsy" type of tassels. That Brooklyn Dodgers Football Pennant with the Bum would be one example.

But this cloth material and construction was far more prevalent from the late 1950s to mid 1960s. It could conceivably be either Baseball or Football, but I'd lean pretty heavily towards Football. The Bear logo looks more "football-ish" as well.

I don't know the color scheme for either team off the top of my head. But would guess this pennant was once light-to-medium blue, and has since faded to grey. Perhaps it would help to research the colors for the two teams, if anyone here wants to invest the time. That could help narrow it down as well.

bocca001 04-18-2019 01:32 PM

Green Oilers
 
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Just arrived today. An unusual green Houston Oilers pennant.

ooo-ribay 04-18-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1871202)
Just arrived today. An unusual green Houston Oilers pennant.

Love it! Especially the oil rig worker, kicking the ball. :p

perezfan 04-18-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1871202)
Just arrived today. An unusual green Houston Oilers pennant.

Wow.... That arrived fast! Why does my stuff always take 3 weeks or more? :confused:

Great pickup of a super-rare one, Marc!

bocca001 04-18-2019 03:54 PM

Thanks, guys. It only had to travel about 3 hours down I45. They shipped it in what I would call a "brick" of cardboard, about 4 flat sheets on top and 4 on the bottom. It might have stopped a bullet. I'll take it over the pennant oragami that I've been receiving lately.

Fballguy 04-18-2019 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1871202)
Just arrived today. An unusual green Houston Oilers pennant.

Congrats Mark! I was an early bidder but I bowed out pretty early. Damn that 28.25% Buyer's Premium in Texas. ;)


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