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1974 Topps - [Base] #5 - Hank Aaron Special (1966,1967,1968,1969) Courtesy of COMC.com Black dot on the top right border is a recurring print defect. |
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I can't remember if the "dotted" line print variation located on the upper left of the 1970 389 Jim Shellenback cad has been discussed before or not. However, I came across my first copy and wondered if the dotted line extended onto the card above. The answer is yes, but only a small part of the line can be seen along the bottom edge of the 70 Topps 388 Bryon Browne card.
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The left Browne has two defects and the second may cross over too
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1955 Bowman Wrong Backs
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I never go after the wrong backs that are rampant in this hobby UNLESS they are the common versions of cards. Thesis the case in the 1955 Bowmans where the Bolling and Johnson wrong backs are the commons. I scanned these recently for Mike Cady and was amazed to find out that the Johnson backs have the card numbers that correspond to the players on both. The Bollings have the same card number even though the back is otherwise incorrect. The Bollings BOTH have #48 even though Frank is #204. Ernie and Don Johnson have the correct numbers. I hope folks can follow me on this. I had never noticed that the error cards had this variety.
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One of the few times a post by Tom did not send me scrambling to find some card
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Thankfully I did not find some obscure unknown variation or error this time. I just was ignorant of this fact.
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For you no black blob, but large fisheye fans...
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Tommy looks a little out of sorts....and big, really big :)
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How do those "no blobs" get graded as straight 8s without a PD qualifier?
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Does anyone know how common these print variations are for the 1970 Topps Baseball set?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d132f2320d.jpg
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The overly dark 70 Topps are a bit unusual, but they are out there.
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I am not sure which is rarer....charcoal grey 70s or the use of grossly oversized images w/o any description....appears they are both fairly common and recurring.
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Thanks Steve and Spokes for your replies
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There is a thread or discussion within a tread ( maybe this one) on the charcoal 70s
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savedfrommyspokes was exactly correct. These turned out not to be true defects. The seller's scanner was to blame. Sorry for any confusion.
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Brad-- glad you posted those. I for one learned something about that scanning issue
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"Blackless-ing"?
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Clearless ?
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1966 series 5
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Found what appears to be a recurring print defect on two 1966 series 5 cards. Both #371 (Stange) and #381 (Fischer) appear to have a yellow streak, as noted. Both of these cards are in column 9 on the print sheets. Other cards in this column include #379, 440, 410, and 437 but I haven't see that defect on those cards.
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As shown in post 1641 he can also be found with blue/green blob on chin, scarce recurring. Had not noticed line on Stange but in checking my set I have one. Now I need a normal one :-{
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1966 Topps #437 (Stanek) also has a blue blob on it. That card is also in column 9 of the sheet. Interesting!
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Pus the yellow slash between Al and Stanek
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1962 #293 Miller
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This is sticky-tacky, but a difference nonetheless. I have annotated them to show the differences. The top two have a RED dot by his head, but the bottom two have a grayish dot. The top left has a blob by he's ear and the bottom right has a green paint spot in his hair. All are readily available from the usual sources.
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1957 Topps - [Base] #1 - Ted Williams [PSA*3*VG] Courtesy of COMC.com Recurring red print defects at bottom center border and just below the W in Williams. |
And the 57 posted in the separate thread seems to have errant green and yellow marks. Have not checked to see if recurring
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Recurring print defect in the right border.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973...&size=original 1973 Topps - [Base] #596 - High # - Boston Red Sox Team Courtesy of COMC.com And this one, mentioned by a blowout user, is the recurring print line at the top of the image. https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1960...&size=original 1960 Topps - [Base] #350 - Mickey Mantle [PSA*7*NM] Courtesy of COMC.com |
John---do not look do hard for Mantle oddities :)
On the 73 Boston, in looking the one with my set has the defect so now I need a normal one :( |
Like I said, I wasn't looking for it. A blowout guy thought the card was perforated by the look of the print line having teeth at a regular interval. ;-)
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Over the years I have seen many copies of this extremely common card, but today was the first time I have seen copies of this card with areas of excess black ink. On the COMC copy, the excess black ink completely obscures the "S" in Reds.
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Very cool.
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Clay 'Soul Patch' Carroll?
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Is this a repeating variation (1974 Topps #351 Dwight Evans Red Face)? Here's mine along side the one that VCP has as its "exemplar" and one that I found during a quick Google search.
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Had not seen that one. In looking for it came across this one in which he looks to be in the process of inhaling covid
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Saw this on eBay this week..the almost white 'yankees' at the bottom has me very interested but the top left looks like the old rounded rectangle sticky tags put on a penny sleeve left some resistance to fade? I didn't see this on others I searched for...maybe it started out light already as the rest of the card is still sharp? Thoughts?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...36f7131fa7.jpg
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I wouldn't touch that Stottlemyre with a 60 foot 6 inch pole. :rolleyes:
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Here are two 75 Hillers with the varying sized "white cloud" print variation. While the clouds vary in size, the darker than the rest of the sky blue tail that circles clockwise around the right side of the "cloud" is present on both, but this tail does not appear on much more common cloudless version. This blue tail is the tell-tale to determine if your "white cloud" variation is legit or if the cloud card was merely defaced by an eraser to fool variation enthusiasts......no blue tail=not legit.:D
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1961 checklist variation
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This marked checklist, #516, suggest that the C covering hat version was issued in the 6th series printing, while the C above hat version was probably on the 7th series printing.
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Found these 2 1972's this week while sorting commons. I have to look closer at the Williams re the 3 red blotches.
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Gene Stephens green tints.
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1974 Topps Schmidt card can be found with a partial left border missing. It's reoccurring. I see about a half dozen on ebay right now.
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In the process of upgrading both versions of 1963 Fleer #64 Bob Dougherty, I have come to this conclusion:
I know that the set was printed in one sheet, with # 1 down to #8, #9 down to #16, etc., up to #88. There was also a sheet that, for some reason, used #5 down to #8 and #1 down to #4. There was no red stripe on the bottom most card, meaning every card divisible by 4 has both a red stripe version and a no stripe version. I had decided to replace both of these back-stained cards and had no problem finding a no stripe version. In checking on the card WITH a red stripe, I can find only one or two with lots of no stripes available. My theory therefore is that they likely removed both Dougherty and Long in order to insert the checklist later in the run, using the second cited sheet with Dougherty in the fourth spot down and with the red stripe as a result being removed. Thus there is a shortage of the #64 WITH the stripe. I believe that the other version is not really a big SP after all since it likely stayed in the run from the beginning. I am not expecting everyone to follow this, but this is what I am seeing. |
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1969 Topps Jim Grabowski blackless and missing some yellow ink https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...n_%20Jimmy.jpg 1969 Topps Jimmy Johnson blackless and missing yellow ink. The backs are perfect. |
I just ran across this one recently. Take a look at the back where it says Topps above the card number. See the difference in location?
Can anyone confirm if this one is reoccurring? I just checked all of the backs on COMC and could not find the variation. It is not like it is a print dot or print smudge. Seems like this one would almost have to be reoccurring. Thoughts? = = = I'm editing this post because I just noticed something right after I posted it. Looks like all of the green on the back is shifted down. Now maybe I'm thinking this might not be reoccurring. Possible, I guess, right? https://i.postimg.cc/0QSFZ73M/013-19...-Variation.jpg |
Neat find Shane. Have not yet seen another
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Notice that all of the green print has shifted downward on the back of the variant card.
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Is this "mermaid tattoo" on Lou's sleeve recurring or a print defect. Curious collectors want to know! (I apologize if I've axed this before--I'm old)
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Keep it handy Bob. We will get to # 306 in the 52 Thread in no time
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1955 Topps Logo
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Here are six example of the logo cropping issues form the 1955 Topps set. The are #14,26, 30, 50, 70, and 80. Some are more scarce than others.
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Thomas---did you and George ever do an article on these cropping differences in the 55 Topps set ? Do you have a list of all the impacted cards ? Think the differences involve DP cards or was something else at work ?
This was George's earlier article on some 55 variants. Not included is the two versions or #2 Williams, with or without the dots in the auto https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ...sxPkCgh3a2Yg8- |
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The Robinson has been the subject of SCD articles, has gotten hobby recognition, acquired a premium and is pretty scarce. The Rosen seems to be similar. Not a cropping issue and maybe a corrected error. The others are pretty easy and I think George sent me something that included them and others that had similar cropping differences. Not sure if a full list exits. I have several others
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So I bought into a couple of 1961 NuCards Baseball Highlights breaks on Vintage Breaks, and won a drawing for a $250 "ebay shopping spree" from their eBay store. Saw this one and just had to have it.
There were 12 ebay watchers on it at the time the item ended when I claimed it. But the card has so many registration issues, I think every color is aligned wrong. It's awesome! https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pioAA...ay/s-l1600.jpg And for being such a famous card, in really sharp condition otherwise, it's a really interesting one for dinner table discussions. I wonder what SGC saw to call it Authentic? |
Amazing card John
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Just now found out about this one, COMC has it listed. The 1973 OPC #453 Checklist can be found with and without the Topps logo in the baseball, I don't know which is the error and which is the corrected, the earlier checklists don't have the logo but the later #588 checklist has it. So this makes the fourth known variation on the 1965 through 1985 OPC baseball sets that I am aware of, the shifted copyright line on the 1969 #66 Merv Rettenmund Rookies card, the two different color team names on two 1971 Pirates, #27 Gene Clines Rookies and #144 Jackie Hernandez, and now this 1973 checklist.
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Nice find Cliff, I had not noticed that variation on this card before. What is weird is that on the #453 card w/o the "topps" brand name in the ball, you can see where the seams of the ball are partially missing due to the OPC guys removing the "topps" name from the checklist. I am thinking that the corrected version of this card is the one w/o "topps" on it and the original is the one with "topps" on it. My guess on the 588 card is that the OPC guys simply missed removing "topps" altogether on that card after remembering to remove it on the #54, #264 and #338 checklist cards. On the #54 card, my copy is missing part of the upper seam where the Topps logo appeared.
https://net54baseball.com/picture.ph...ictureid=30183 Another more subtle OPC variation I learned about recently is a difference in the grey on the back of the 1965 OPCs. While I would assume it is due to a difference in the card stock that was used, some cards have much darker grey backs while most have lighter grey backs. I heard from a collector who is trying to collect both colored backs for his set. He mentioned that cards 1-109 appear to be printed on these different stocks, while cards 110-283 appear to have been printed on the same stock. In my set, the lighter grey backs are far more prevalent. |
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1969 Topps - [Base] #412 - Checklist - 5th Series (Mickey Mantle) Courtesy of COMC.com Not sure if this one is known yet, red line recurring print defect between the A and L in BASEBALL at top. Looks like it might be related to this print issue, with a small line at the bottom of the card as well. https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1969...&size=original 1969 Topps - [Base] #412 - Checklist - 5th Series (Mickey Mantle) Courtesy of COMC.com |
1955 Logo Variants
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Here are the 1955 Topps pairs of cards that I have showing logo croppings. If anyone knows of others, I would love to seek them out as well.
#14 Finigan #26 Groat #29 Wehmeier #30 Power #31 Spahn #50 Robinson #70 Rosen #80 Grim |
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Partially filled in 'Y' in "Daffy-nition" on back of 1955 Topps #161 Chuck Tanner |
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Nice; those are called "blobs" on some cards.
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