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jp1216 05-27-2024 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2437324)
Yeap, that would be a normal hobby lineup.
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Zoomed in :eek:

4815162342 05-27-2024 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jp1216 (Post 2437364)
Zoomed in :eek:


lol

Fuddjcal 05-27-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2437284)
Could anyone make an appropriate baseball card for this turd? Do I hear an Elf giggling in the bullrushes.

Doesn't Topps Now have one coming out 1 of 1 PSA 10?

theshowandme 05-27-2024 12:48 PM

Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?

jayshum 05-27-2024 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2437397)
Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?

This article covers it pretty well. You'll just miss out on all the arguing and opinions about what was done and what should have been done.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

Gorditadogg 05-27-2024 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mkskillz013 (Post 2437263)
Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.



p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.

They were valid questions for someone making their first post. There are a lot of scammers that come on here making vague comments in order to get their post count up and build credibility.



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JollyElm 05-27-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2437360)
darren (jollyelm) came up with a pretty good prototype for a possible card in post # 908.

Brian


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Eric72 05-27-2024 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2437397)
Anyone have the cliff notes version to summarize this thread?

  • There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
  • There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
  • Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
  • A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
  • At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
  • Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
  • 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
  • An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
  • That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.

SyrNy1960 05-27-2024 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2437431)
  • There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
  • There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
  • Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
  • A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
  • At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
  • Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
  • 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
  • An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
  • That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.

Well done!

parkplace33 05-27-2024 08:49 PM

For anyone who won one of the cards that were stolen, were you able to purchase that card? I think only one member has said they won one of the stolen cards.

I do hope the two missing cards show up soon.

Gorditadogg 05-27-2024 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2437431)
  • There was a card show in Strongsville, Ohio earlier this year
  • There is a Best Western Plus located near the card show venue
  • Memory Lane shipped 54 high-value cards via FedEx to that BW+
  • A ML employee arrived at the BW+ about 3 days after the cards arrived
  • At some point during those 3 days, the cards went missing
  • Despite the fact they couldn't locate the cards, ML decided to let the auction run its course, notifying only a minimum of people
  • 52 of the 54 cards were recovered roughly a month later
  • An employee of BW+ had quit his job shortly after the cards went missing
  • That employee has been arrested in connection with the missing cards

This (nearly) 1,000 post thread contains numerous opinions, egos, and insults. It also has some other details. However, the info above is a decent recap.

Is it a fact they couldn't locate the cards? Isn't it possible the police knew or suspected where the cards were and were waiting to make the bust?

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Peter_Spaeth 05-27-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg (Post 2437499)
Is it a fact they couldn't locate the cards? Isn't it possible the police knew or suspected where the cards were and were waiting to make the bust?

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And in turn, an expectancy that there was a good possibility of recovery may have informed ML's decision to continue the auction. Just speculating, but common sense would suggest there weren't that many suspects to begin with and they may well have had leads they were pursuing. You can't just go around kicking down people's doors.

FrankWakefield 05-27-2024 09:03 PM

+1 Ericl
Well summarized, Eric. That's about right.


Within about a year or so after I got out of law school, or about 37 years ago, a question arose at the law firm about whether or not it would be a conflict of interest to accept a new client, due to already representing a similar client. I stayed quiet, my little opinion, had I had one, was about worthless. Some rather smart lawyers took turns talking, explaining various nuances of the ethics rules. Finally, this older lawyer who had grown up in a small rural county, and who up until now had been silent, leaned forward, cleared his throat, and said something to the effect of, "all I know is if you can't explain to the previous client why you did or didn't do something in about one sentence, then you probably shouldn't have done it."

A fellow shouldn't sell something he doesn't have.

Cliff Bowman 05-27-2024 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2437498)
For anyone who won one of the cards that were stolen, were you able to purchase that card? I think only one member has said they won one of the stolen cards.
I do hope the two missing cards show up soon.

At least two, posts #29 and #931.

Republicaninmass 05-28-2024 04:02 AM

I believe it's called "conjecture", counselor. From staring at screens in one's darkened basement, this board has plenty of it.

steve B 05-28-2024 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2436812)

Should have been numbered to 54....

parkplace33 05-28-2024 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2437507)
At least two, posts #29 and #931.

Ahh, thank you. Hopefully others will post their winnings once they receive.

vintagerookies51 05-28-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mkskillz013 (Post 2437263)
Well, I was aware of net54 for years from a distance and stumbled onto this thread when looking for information about the theft. I kept abreast by reading all 900 posts (many of which felt like old lawyers trying to prove who’s smarter), and frankly found all of the information I needed. Then I go to check the pop on the cards they found, only to annoyingly see them deactivated. I asked a simple (maybe naive to some) question in here and was met by a variety of sarcasm. Obviously I could ask PSA, but I’m also bound to get a faster (and probably as accurate) answer here. All good, enjoy your next 30,000 posts…I’m probably done at 3.

p.s. don’t be so quick to alienate…your family will need people to buy all this stuff when you kick the bucket.

Had a good laugh at this one - far too many people have been chased away from this forum by a bunch of old men yelling at clouds

brianp-beme 05-28-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagerookies51 (Post 2437605)
Had a good laugh at this one - far too many people have been chased away from this forum by a bunch of old men yelling at clouds

I firmly believe that is conducive to rain production.


Brian (my Native American name is 'Man Yells at Clouds')

ALBB 05-28-2024 03:29 PM

stolen cards
 
it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done

brianp-beme 05-28-2024 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2437641)
it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done

Looking at the mug shot, it appears this might be asking just a bit too much from him.

Brian

Mark17 05-28-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2437641)
it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done

Quitting his job at the Best Western Plus was a huge red flag. Who in their right mind would do that unless they had a couple mil in assets socked away.

frankbmd 05-28-2024 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2437656)
Quitting his job at the Best Western Plus was a huge red flag. Who in their right mind would do that unless they had a couple mil in assets socked away.

He probably did have a couple of mil in his Best Western Plus 401K.:D

KingFisk 05-28-2024 05:39 PM

Is this the same guy who robbed a Brinks truck about 15 years ago? Same name but allegedly had cleaned up his act. However same age, same state as this fellow.

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436656)
o further their alleged fraud scheme, Curcio ordered several items necessary to create forged card cases and labels to pass off the cards as graded, court documents allege.

They included plastic holders, thermal transfer barcode labels, a magnifier loupe optical glass, a handheld inkjet printer, a lock-cutting kit, an electric grinding pen, an abrasive buffer and polishing wheel, an abrasive and bristle brushes and drill bits designed for engraving, prosecutors said.

“Anthony Curcio and Iosif Bondarchuk carried out a brazen, nationwide fraud scheme involving valuable sports and Pokémon trading cards to deceive buyers and marketplaces, ultimately amassing over $2 million in fraudulent and attempted sales,” U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said in a statement. “Curcio and Bondarchuk allegedly sold and tried to sell at inflated prices cards of various professional athletes, including, among others, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Nolan Ryan, Larry Bird, Julius Erving, and Magic Johnson, as well as various valuable Pokémon cards.

Hmmmm.. I bet it's a lot more than $2 million if it went on for years.


Carter08 05-28-2024 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KingFisk (Post 2437666)
Is this the same guy who robbed a Brinks truck about 15 years ago? Same name but allegedly had cleaned up his act. However same age, same state as this fellow.

I think so. Made a side living giving inspirational speeches about learning from mistakes.

brianp-beme 05-29-2024 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2437688)
I think so. Made a side living giving inspirational speeches about learning from mistakes.

He learned from his mistakes...he figured out he needed to take a different pathway to undeserved easy money.


Brian

Kco 05-29-2024 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2437641)
it seems if the guy was a bit smarter about it, he could have possibly gotten away with it

Would have to had sit on the cards for years, obviously break them out of holders, maybe give the cards a little nick/crease/ writing mark, etc, finally go to an " out of state" show..maybe one card at a time with the " line" I have the old card..looking to trade it... possibly could be done

All he realistically would've needed was an unethical buyer with a deep wallet, its akin to stolen art, even if said buyer paid 20 cents on the dollar for the cards and knew they were stolen and couldn't really advertise they owned them, they get a bunch of monster cards for virtually free.

Mark17 05-29-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kco (Post 2437888)
All he realistically would've needed was an unethical buyer with a deep wallet, its akin to stolen art, even if said buyer paid 20 cents on the dollar for the cards and knew they were stolen and couldn't really advertise they owned them, they get a bunch of monster cards for virtually free.

But sooner or later the brain surgeon who quit his prestigious job at the Best Western Plus would talk too much, and the buyer would be looking at prison time for buying stolen goods.

4815162342 05-30-2024 03:59 PM

Update: Man Accused of Stealing $2.1 Million in Cards in Court; 2nd Arrest ‘Expected’

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-jacob-paxton/

Mark17 05-31-2024 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2438172)
Update: Man Accused of Stealing $2.1 Million in Cards in Court; 2nd Arrest ‘Expected’

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-jacob-paxton/

In life, we sometimes come to a proverbial fork in the road, when the next decision we make sends our life down a particular path.

Despite a no questions asked reward being offered, the cards remained missing. Paxton is now facing a charge that could result in a lengthy jail sentence.

Peter_Spaeth 05-31-2024 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2438392)
In life, we sometimes come to a proverbial fork in the road, when the next decision we make sends our life down a particular path.

Despite a no questions asked reward being offered, the cards remained missing. Paxton is now facing a charge that could result in a lengthy jail sentence.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Lorewalker 05-31-2024 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2438392)
In life, we sometimes come to a proverbial fork in the road, when the next decision we make sends our life down a particular path.

Despite a no questions asked reward being offered, the cards remained missing. Paxton is now facing a charge that could result in a lengthy jail sentence.

That reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

It is fate, destiny or nemesis. Perhaps the dawning of knowledge, the coming of sin. Or more prosaically, the catastrophe that awaits everyone from a single false move, wrong turn, fatal encounter. Every life has such a moment. What distinguishes us is whether -- and how -- we ever come back.

4815162342 06-04-2024 08:39 PM

Update: Second Man Arrested in $2.1 Million Card Theft

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...on-card-theft/

Casey2296 06-04-2024 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2439225)
Update: Second Man Arrested in $2.1 Million Card Theft

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...on-card-theft/

Dude needs to tighten up that beard for his perp shot if he ever wants a chance for a cameo on "Americas dumbest criminals".

Props to the Strongsville Police for a job well done, I bet if they go Abu Ghraib on Paxton for the other two cards and he'll fold like a cheap card table, leading to a 3rd arrest.

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-05-2024 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2439226)
Dude needs to tighten up that beard for his perp shot if he ever wants a chance for a cameo on "Americas dumbest criminals".

Props to the Strongsville Police for a job well done, I bet if they go Abu Ghraib on Paxton for the other two cards and he'll fold like a cheap card table, leading to a 3rd arrest.

It's weird I assumed he had just managed to unload two cards and would gladly tell the police to whom he sold them (as opposed to a third conspirator) to try and show cooperation at this point. I figured they'd be back in hand in a few days.

jayshum 06-05-2024 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2439267)
It's weird I assumed he had just managed to unload two cards and would gladly tell the police to whom he sold them (as opposed to a third conspirator) to try and show cooperation at this point. I figured they'd be back in hand in a few days.

I agree. Maybe he did and they just haven't been able to locate the person yet? Look how long it took to make the second arrest, and that was for storing the cards which were presumably at his house where they were located. You would have thought he would have been arrested faster than 2 weeks if the cards were found at his house.

Mark17 06-05-2024 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2439267)
It's weird I assumed he had just managed to unload two cards and would gladly tell the police to whom he sold them (as opposed to a third conspirator) to try and show cooperation at this point. I figured they'd be back in hand in a few days.

Maybe he sold them to random people at the show (non-table holders) and doesn't know who they were.

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-05-2024 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2439410)
Maybe he sold them to random people at the show (non-table holders) and doesn't know who they were.

That woulda been ballsy!

wayne97 06-07-2024 12:06 PM

Have winners received the winnings from memory lane Yet?
 
For the lawyers in the group--Won't the cards be held in evidence until after the trial is completed

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-07-2024 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wayne97 (Post 2439865)
For the lawyers in the group--Won't the cards be held in evidence until after the trial is completed

I'm not a lawyer either, but what would the actual physical cards prove as evidence as long as there is an incontrovertible record of when and how they were recovered?

Since ML has started shipping them I'm guessing no.

Kidnapped18 06-07-2024 01:17 PM

No...see Post #48

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Originally Posted by wayne97 (Post 2439865)
For the lawyers in the group--Won't the cards be held in evidence until after the trial is completed


4815162342 06-11-2024 05:10 PM

Update: Grand Jury Indicts Two Accused in $2.1 Million Baseball Card Theft

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ll-card-theft/

brob28 06-11-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscardpete (Post 2431935)
This doesn’t make sense, why would ML keep an auction running if the items were stolen? Something doesn’t add up.

My guess is to establish value for insurance purposes.

Peter_Spaeth 06-11-2024 05:37 PM

1000 posts in, and you're responding months later to one on the first page which has been discussed in literally hundreds of subseqauent posts? Sorry, but :confused:

G1911 06-11-2024 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2440759)
1000 posts in, and you're responding months later to one on the first page which has been discussed in literally hundreds of subseqauent posts? Sorry, but :confused:

We finally agree on this thread :). Too funny lol

Lorewalker 06-11-2024 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2439887)
I'm not a lawyer either, but what would the actual physical cards prove as evidence as long as there is an incontrovertible record of when and how they were recovered?

Since ML has started shipping them I'm guessing no.

According to the Sports Collectors Daily article that was published today, it states: "The 52 cards recovered by Strongsville Police are still being held as evidence."

calvindog 06-11-2024 07:15 PM

I don’t expect the winners to receive their cards next week. Or next month.

Peter_Spaeth 06-11-2024 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2439887)
I'm not a lawyer either, but what would the actual physical cards prove as evidence as long as there is an incontrovertible record of when and how they were recovered?

Since ML has started shipping them I'm guessing no.

Where did the information come from that they had started shipping?

Rhotchkiss 06-12-2024 01:04 AM

Update on my end - I have been paid 100% for my consignments, including the t204 Ramly Johnson that is still missing.

brunswickreeves 06-12-2024 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2440824)
Update on my end - I have been paid 100% for my consignments, including the t204 Ramly Johnson that is still missing.

Thrilled for this very positive outcome! Congrats on the sales and continued good relations with ML.


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