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Archive 04-14-2009 09:27 PM

the new board is being scrapped for the time being
 
Posted By: <b>Ed Cavagnaro</b><p>I too love the old board and it will be hard to leave, but sometimes you need to leave an overloaded boat - before it sinks... So I will follow &quot;The Captains&quot;, wherever they choose to lead...

Archive 04-14-2009 09:34 PM

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Count me as one who is excited to get to the new board and grateful for all that Leon and the crew have done to make it a reality.<br>JimB

Archive 04-14-2009 10:18 PM

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I liked the new site and, beyond the relatively minor load issue, thought it worked well. One doesn't have to use all the bells and whistles if he doesn't want to. You can be old school and simply read and post just as you do here. Even with the bells and whistles, it's still just a message board for posting and reading messages.<br><br>I remember my grandmother got confused by the tens of buttons and knobs in her new car, so she taped over the ones she didn't use or need. The car still drove. I don't blame her either. I rented a car and there were about 20 different options just for the front windshield wiper.

Archive 04-14-2009 10:19 PM

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Leon -<br><br><font size="+2," color="#FF0000"><b>YOU'RE FIRED!!!</b></font><br><br>What's that you say? No more hair to pull out. Nobody else dumb enough to take the mental abuse of your minions? Can't put up with the mental anguish that goes with putting up a new bull board? Ah crap, go ahead and stick around and abuse yourself. We're all laughing with you (and at you) <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

Archive 04-15-2009 01:33 AM

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Jeff is 100% on the money.<br><br>And as far as inputing that the speed was slow I see no harm in giving feedback. And as for the comments above I don't think Leon should be nuking anyones access for giving feedback.<br><br>I think it was Leon all along who said this was all of our board not just his, it has nothing to do with being free or it being the Leon show. I would also hope that the adverts are at least compensating Leon for at least a bit of the time he and the other mods spend on here. Which by the way I think all of us appreciate right?<br><br>&quot;As for those busting your chops over speed on the new board, etc, etc, I for one would put up with that for about a half-nanosecond, then nuke their access. Last time I checked this website was free, so they don't have much room to B*tch about anything.&quot; <br><br>But I'm most likely wrong....LOL<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>John

Archive 04-15-2009 02:13 AM

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Posted By: <b>Steven Finley</b><p>I know you guys are working overtime on this so best of luck in the endeavor.

Archive 04-15-2009 02:25 AM

the new board is being scrapped for the time being
 
Posted By: <b>Jerry Hrechka</b><p> Bring back Ma Bell &amp; The Rotary Phone!!!!!!!

Archive 04-15-2009 06:13 AM

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>I liked the new board a lot but the speed did concern me. If its slow now, it surely wasn't gonna speed up when hundreds of more users joined. I don't know the specs, but it might be better to go with a Dedicated server vs a shared server.. <br><br>marty

Archive 04-15-2009 06:26 AM

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Posted By: <b>Jimmy</b><p>I have not problems either way, and will just go with what ever is working for the time being. The new site did have problems, but all of them can be worked out. I am use to computer problems and work with them all day. The more time the moderators spend on the new site, things will get better and get back on track. These things just take time and effort and all of us should just sit tight and use the old site as we did before. We should all be thanking them for their efforts and just move on and talk about baseball and other sports.<br><br><br>Jimmy<br>

Archive 04-15-2009 07:18 AM

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>I'm sorry that I was one of those people that said that I was just as happy with the old board.

Archive 04-15-2009 07:19 AM

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>This wasn't meant to be a pity party for me though I appreciate the kind words thrown my way and the way of the other guys who helped so much. Others above said it was each members right to voice an opinion. Of course that is 100% correct. This board is nothing without the members. I didn't see anyone saying they hated me for trying or hated me for the new site. They were merely giving their opinions and that was (it really was) appreciated. How can I or the other mods know if you don't say? The same questions over and over got a little tiring but it wasn't the end of the world. I tried and said repeatedly the slowness WAS a show stopper for me and in the end it was a self fulfilling prophecy. For the record Yahoo had over 350,000 domains on our server that hosted our new site. That's right the new board shared a server with over 350,000 sites(domains). That was the problem. I don't think it was ever going to work so maybe it was for the best that it cratered (sour grapes?) sooner than later. I certainly could not have lived day to day with the slowness nor did I expect anyone else to. It was interesting to see almost 700 members sign up in 2-3 days. That was indeed quite a few!! I will be a bit smarter the next time around. We will probably stay with that software and find a much less used host which will cure the speed issue. My apologies if I blew a gasket but it was either sort of funny (how serious is this in life, really?) or really frustrating. The latter was a reality for me for yesterday...<br><br>One other thing so there is no misunderstanding. I do get compensated through the banner ads as well as Brian M gets a bit for his help. That total is probably about 25k-28k a yr and then I have about 6k-9k of expenses, per yr. I also spent about 20% of that (myself) on the Net54 National dinner last year. The funds have certainly helped in that endeavor. All together it works out to about a buck twenty two an hour but it is still something and I don't want folks to think differently. It also helps fund some of my card purchases and is appreciated. <br><br>Today is a new day and the sun came up. Lets talk some vintage cards guys and girls......Ya'll are good folk!! <br><br>edited gramma

Archive 04-15-2009 09:21 AM

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>who the Somali Pirates use for tax preparation............?<br><br><br><br><br><br><b r><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><b r><br><br><br><br><br>H &amp; ARRRRRRR Block<br><br><br>Okay, bad pirate joke..............<br>Thanks for all the hard work. I wondered about the throughput that you could get from Yahoo. Granted they are huge but, like you said, they have TONS of domains on every server. It should be easy to work out the hosting issue. The software is good though.<br>

Archive 04-15-2009 09:27 AM

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Posted By: <b>Dan McCarthy</b><p>For the record, I can't wait for the new board to come around. I think it's funny that people prefer this old board vs the new &quot;high tech&quot; one. I don't know how long this version of Net54 baseball has been around for but the vBulletin software that the new site used (will use?) should be rock solid and forums with many hundreds of thousands of members use it. I can remember sites at least 5 years old (I wasn't on the internet much, before then) running on very similar platforms. I'm amazed that anyone who has been on the internet for any length of time hasn't come across another vBulletin forum. As far as new features, there really aren't even that many, and those that do exist WILL be used by everybody. For example, the search feature will be much more useful. Someone like myself who is relatively new to the site will be able to easily navigate to discussions about rarer subjects, like Ferguson Bakery BF2s and W600s. If you've been able to figure out buying and selling on eBay, I don't think that it will be too difficult to figure out the new forum. The slowness was obviously an issue but I'm sure Leon and crew will get it worked out, and I can't wait! I just wanted to demonstrate my support for the new site and appreciation for all the hard work that went in/is going into it! Also, I don't blame those who prefer this version of the site. After all, it is dedicated to the discussion and appreciation of very old things; once the &quot;new&quot; new site is up, however, please be patient and give it a couple of weeks and I'm sure that you'll love it. It'll be just like the DH, interleague play, and the &quot;this-time-it-count&quot; All Star game!!!! (just kidding... )<br><br>Now, back to baseball: here is further proof that baseball can metaphorically relate to any aspect of life.<br><br>The current site: was once top-of-the-line, still somewhat reliable but terribly old &amp; outdated<br><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/collectbaseball/JulioFranco-794670.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>The &quot;old&quot; new site: powerful, great, but sssslllloooowwww as hell<br><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/collectbaseball/ernie-lombardi.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>The future new site: speed, reliability, and power all rolled into one!<br><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/collectbaseball/amd_ramirez.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

Archive 04-15-2009 11:30 AM

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>I think people are looking for a site that is easy to operate (even a brainless monkey can operate it) with lots of power (even if it's enhanced) - something like the following:<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1239816469.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <br><br><a href="http://www.noob.us/humor/famous-jose-conseco-home-run-the-funniest-home-run-ever/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.noob.us/humor/famous-jose-conseco-home-run-the-funniest-home-run-ever/</a>

Archive 04-15-2009 03:31 PM

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Leon- I wouldn't care if you get 100k for the banners, this is a thankless job and I'm glad someone else (besides me) is doing it. I haven't weighed in on the old board vs. new board discussion because I'll go whereever we end up but yes the dragging and slowness was a bitch. <br>My personal feeling was that the new site was great but the ease of the old board makes it so much more user friendly (at least until the bugs are worked out).<br>I do appreciate your (and Brian M.) giving it a shot.<br>Thanks,<br>tbob

Archive 04-15-2009 03:42 PM

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Posted By: <b>Noel</b><p>Glad to have a fun and friendly forum to be able name call, post on and voice our opinions as eloquently as we would like.

Archive 04-15-2009 05:16 PM

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Posted By: <b>Ricky Y</b><p>Brian, Matt, Mike, Dan, Leon..and whomever is working on the new site...Thanks a million for your efforts.<br><br>I enjoy coming to this site to read, learn, buy and sell..and I appreciate you guys taking time away from your regular jobs and/or doing other non hobby things to do this. <br><br>I'm sure I will continue to enjoy being here whether its on the new format or this old one. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br>Ricky Y<br><br>

Archive 04-15-2009 06:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>Mike H</b><p>Back to the new board Leon. I gaurantee the poutey complaining group will come around. If not they can go back to watching Matlock. Please don't let them kill the dream. <br><br>Change is inevitable, misery is optional.

Archive 04-16-2009 04:09 AM

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Hmmmm. I guess I don't understand the reactions here.<br><br><br>I don't know why it seems like there has to be one camp or the other. I don't think that someone saying they like this board or even prefer this board is somehow not appreciating the work that went into the new one. <br><br>I bet most people here have something in their life that they miss, even if what they currently have to replace it is &quot;better&quot;. Old jobs, first house (my case), first car - things like that. So why such the dismissive treatment for those that simply say that this place feels more comfortable than the new board? Or that it may be a bit harder for some people to get acclimated to?*<br><br>And the bottom line is that this board is a lot - a LOT - simpler to use. That is plain fact. Yes - the ease of use is tied to the lack of features, etc. But why, again, are some people so dismissive of the fact that adjusting to the more complicated interface of the new board is an issue for others? Great - it works for you. But do we have to call other people names because it doesn't seem as straightforward to use?<br><br>Oh well. Stay the course Leon. We do need the new board. But we can all help by not acting like people that have contributed here for years - who have helped make it a board worth moving - are somehow jerks because they prefer this format.<br><br>Joann<br><br>*And Barry - this whole paragraph should be declared a Grammatical Disaster Area with the incorrect pronoun use and ending sentences with prepositions and everything else. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

Archive 04-16-2009 04:50 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Joann- I can live with it. I'm cool. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">

Archive 04-16-2009 05:04 AM

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Forgot to add that I think the player photos above, along with the descriptions, are hilarious. Gads I wish I were as creative as people here.<br><br>J

Archive 04-16-2009 05:04 AM

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p> <br><br><br><br>Steve<br><br><br>grrrrrrrrrrr

Archive 04-16-2009 05:19 AM

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Posted By: <b>Tim Cathey</b><p>The big problem I had were those saying the new board was far more complicated than this one. Sure it had a lot more features, but if you took just a few minutes you would see it's just as easy to use as this one.<br><br>1) Click on the home plate logo. (Net54 Home Page)<br><br>2) Read thread titles and click on one of interest.<br><br>3) Read posts.<br><br>4) Click on &quot;Post Reply&quot; and type in your 2 cents.<br><br>5) Click &quot;Respond&quot; or &quot;Submit Reply&quot;<br><br>6) Click on home plate and start the process over.<br><br>That is all you need to do to post on this board or the new one. I don't see what's so complicated about that.<br><br>I have no issue with someone that prefers the look of this site, that's just personal preference. I only take issue with those that never gave the new site a chance.

Archive 04-16-2009 05:31 AM

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Joann made a good point. Why does everybody feel compelled to take sides on this issue? We made the best with the old board until the new one launched. We all gave that one a shot but there were some serious problems. So now we are back on this one. Is Net54 about software, or about collectors interacting?


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