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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Schwerner, Chaney, and Goodman.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Thanks David. Both the perfect game and the murders occurred on June 21.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>Thanks for catching that Barry. That is what happens when you drink decaf in the morning.<br>I was at the 23 inning game also.<br>Here is the Bunning stub.<br><br><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236437994.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>The misguided professor (David A) has relented......<br><br>"I have dug into it a little deeper, and I have to admit, for once you're right, Ted."<br><br>After having said in an earlier post......<br><br>"That's about as historically accurate as Ted's fanciful interpretation of the Rosetta Stone."<br><br><br>Look guy, I first read the GREEK inscription (which wasn't easy) and then I read the English<br> translation to verify if I correctly understood the Greek.<br><br>I'm not trying to brag here....I'm just saying that I'm quite versed on this amazing historical<br> artifact.<br><br>When it comes to history, just stick to the Yankees....you are very good at that. <br><br><br>TED Z<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>You're right about it having been written by Priests.<br><br>You're completely wrong if you believe it in any way has anything to do with the people's feeling for their Pharaoh.<br><br>So, Ted, I stand behind my statement:<br><br>(And while I do appreciate the compliment, I'll stick to the Yankees when you stick to the T206 set.)<br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>David, I sold all my real estate at the end of 2006 and have had nearly all my investments in cash since then. My only foray into the stock market was to short Lehman last Spring. So I might be one of the few people who have made money in both the stock market and real estate market in the past two years. How did you do? (Oh wait, I forgot: you broke even because you didn't sell your home or any stocks yet)<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br><br>You and Bruce go down as the two smartest persons on this board with their own financial investments.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I have no stocks, no debts, cash in the bank, and the mortgage is almost paid off...but I hate to think what my house is worth today. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="sad.gif">
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>How can someone (perhaps the only one) who understands financial markets so well not be able to grasp the concept of "paper losses'?<br><br>And, since you're so good at it, how did you miss the market's peak by a year?<br><br>Hope ya got that cash under your mattress, Jeff.<br><br>(Although if some here are correct, that won't help either, when the dollar becomes worthless.)<br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Yes, I figured I missed the NYC real estate market top by about 8 months. But I've more than made up for it every single month since then. And David, I'm honestly amazed that you believe that your stock accounts are worth the same as at their peak just because you haven't sold yet. It's almost as if you don't live in the real world.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jeff- you should be able to get a really good deal on an apartment now if you are still looking. That's the only silver lining in all this.
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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>understands the CONCEPT of paper losses.....even Jeff......<br><br>You can't sit there and honestly tell me you aren't concerned with the drop in your 401K or mutual funds. THAT isn't rational. And while you might be bearish on the immediate 1-2 year future, you would be in the very bare minority there. If you are as bearish as you suggest, I'd assume that you are pouring money hand over fist into the market. <br><br>I'm 42. If we see 14K in the market before I'm 55, I would be surprised. Hopefully things turn but I'm not counting on it in the long run. I'm not blaming Obama for all of it and neither should Bush be blamed for all of it. Nor do I think it'd be all roses if McCain were in office. I do, however, believe Obama has and is causing some of it because of his inability to focus in on just a couple of issues right now. Great to try to cure all the worlds ills in a couple months but it ain't gonna happen.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Cy</b><p>It is strange that 6 months after Bush declared victory in Iraq, in a war that HE started, Bush, himself, along with many of our republican board members decried that it will take time. Obama hasn't been in office two months after the Bush-Cheney administration has taken US to the most dismal era in American history in 70 years, and no one will give Obama time to make work his projects.<br><br>The other appalling thing is that I hear no one giving solutions. It's just the same old Limbaugh/Hannity complaining with no real solutions given. Wait, I must take that back. Ted did give a solution. He at least is trying.<br><br>"If I were President on Jan 21st....I would have taken that 3 TRILLION and divided amongst<br>the 100 MILLION working families in this country.<br><br>Can you imagine how $30,000 in each working families' hands would stimulate the economy ? "<br><br>This was quite a pleasant surprise to me. Ted, this is THE most egregious case of socialism that I have heard from anyone, politician or not. You sly dog. Under the guise of being a conservative republican, you truly are really a card-carrying commie. Karl Marx would be proud of you Ted.<br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Cy
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Posted By: <b>Stephen Mitchell</b><p>David Atkatz <br>(Login murderers_row) March 7 2009, 9:36 AM says...<br><br><br>"... And for all the pissing and moaning and naysaying done by Republicans, the New Deal brought employment back to pre-crash levels within five years."<br><br>--------------------<br><br>It's a popular belief but FDR's New Deal did not bring down unemployment. His own Treasury Secretary, friend and confidant Henry Morgenthau, Jr., on May 9, 1939, while appearing before powerful Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee said:<br><br><br>"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. ... And an enormous debt to boot!"<br><br>In these words, Morgenthau summarized a decade of disaster, especially during the years Roosevelt was in power. Indeed average unemployment for the whole year in 1939 would be higher than that in 1931, the year before Roosevelt captured the presidency from Herbert Hoover," Burton Folsom writes in his new book, "New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America".<br><br>Indeed, Morgenthau confessed what so many keepers of FDR's flame won't admit: The New Deal failed. Massive spending on public works programs didn't erase historic unemployment. It didn't produce a recovery.<br><br>And neither will a "new" New Deal.<br><br>For further information, check out: www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed012109f.cfm<br><br>Steve Mitchell<br>
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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>and get back to baseball, it'd be appreciated.<br><br>Bunning is an interesting character. As a player he was mostly disliked on the teams on which he played, earning the nickname "The Lizard" from his teammates for his cold-blooded demeanor towards them, but ironically, he was instrumental in bringing Marvin Miller in as head of the players' union (he and Harvey Kueen recruited Miller), which, as we all know, swung the balance of power between the players and the owners 180 degrees from where it had been for nearly a century. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>With statements like this, no wonder he was not liked (he really is a cold blooded one) :<br><br>From Drudge Report: "At a Lincoln Day Dinner speech over the weekend, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) predicted that Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg would likely be dead from pancreatic cancer in nine months, according to the Louisville Courier-Journal. Bunning reiterated his support of conservative judges, saying "that's going to be in place very shortly because Ruth Bader Ginsburgh's cancer." "Bad cancer. The kind you don't get better from," Bunning went on. "Even though she was operated on, usually nine months is the longest that anybody would live after being diagnosed with pancreatic cancer."<br><br>Classy statement Mr.Bunning,,, very classy, almost as classy as this quote from the rotund drug addict (once an addict, always an addict) and self appointed leader of the Republican Party, according to the latest Gallup Poll his approval rating is 28%) referring to the health care reform bill in Congress: <br><br><br>"before it's all over , it'll be called the Ted Kennedy memorial health care bill." This quote comes from the hated liberal media, the one called The New York Daily News.<br><br><br>And to Cy - that was the funniest "catch" ever on this board,,very, very clever, way to expose those insidious commies for what they are. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif"><br><br>by the way - There are reports on the internet that the party in Kentucky is so disgusted with him that they are sniffing around among other Republicans in the hopes of defeating him in the primary.<br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br><br><br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>That wasn't quite what I meant by getting back to baseball. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Tom, exactly. <br><br>Cy, I agree with you for the most part. There are Republicans that want Obama to fail period and there are Republicans that want him to succeed. But I think that of the many that want him to succeed (Dems and Republicans alike) the disaster in the financial markets, sharp drop in unemployment, etc. have put more pressure on the administration at an earlier time than perhaps should be warranted. But the pressure is there nonetheless. If the markets were stable and the economy was just lousy (and not at Defcon 4) then the pressure would be less. (But Obama's approval ratings are sky-high, so obviously the American public has been patient with him thus far)<br><br>Barry, of course I'm looking..but have slowed down the search because I think we'll hit rock bottom by the end of the year or maybe a bit later.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>And Adam, you're right: God knows this board is a welcome diversion from the rest of the world right now and we shouldn't spoil it (me especially included).
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>For whatever reason, there is always going to be heated political discussion on this board. We've already established that.
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Posted By: <b>Patrick McHugh</b><p>Bunning is old school ethics. Maybe to old school but he belives in accountability something many people have forgotten. In Response to CY Soulutions as follows,<br>1. Government buy 2 million forclosed homes burn them to the ground, Total cost 600 billion dollars creates 500, 000 jobs. Also housing is supply and demand issue less supply = more demand.<br>2. GOVERNMENT PURCHASES 1 TRILLION DOLLARS OF S+P 500 FUTURES , THIS CURTAILS STOCK MARKET SLIDE AND SH<br>OWS CONFIDENCE IN AMERICAN BUSINESS.<br>3. Ring fence all toxic assets on all companys books. We need a cooling off period.<br>4. Suspend mark to market accounting on financial institutions for 1 year again we need a cooling off period.<br>5.HIRE A TREASURY SECRETARY with a real plan and integrity. No one wants to work for this man and his only plan is I will make a plan. <br>6. President Obama needs to inspire confidence when he speaks he is our elected leader. <br>7. All members of congress need to come together and come up with plans that inspire confidence not plans that continue to divide the country.<br>8. I could go on and on but I guess my highschool education ideas are not good enough for the american people as congress and the president as well as treasury tell me they have everything under control I hope they are right.
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Here are the employment figures, Steve:<br><br><img src="http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j245/datkatz/755px-US_Employment_Graph_-_1920_to.jpg" alt="[linked image]"><br><br>Sure looks to me like they were back to the pre-crash level by 1937.<br><br>And, yes, Tom, I am concerned. But I'm neither in panic, nor am I feeling sorry for myself.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>And for the sake of political accuracy it is important to note that, in 1998 when Bunning first ran for Senator he won his race by 1/2% and in 2004 when he ran for reelection, when he proudly stated that his opponent looked like one of Saddam Hussein's sons, he won by less than 2%. I have no idea where Ted's 5% or more figure came from, care to enlighten us Ted? Just for the sake of accuracy.<br><br><br><br>==<br><br><br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br><br><br><br>Unknown author <br><br><br><br>--<br><br><br><br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br><br><br><br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br><br><br><br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>David.....i think maybe what you should do is instead of looking at data and charts is take a more human approach. The great depression that you constantly refer to looked like this.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236447152.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236447045.JPG" alt="[linked image]"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1236447133.JPG" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>I understand quite well what the Great Depression was like. My parents lived through it.<br><br>I posted data in order to show that, contrary to what our Republican friends might believe, FDR's policies worked.
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Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>David,<br><br>It's interesting to observe that in the year 1939, at least according to the chart you posted, when Henry Morgenthau, Jr. insisted the New Deal was a failure, a record number of Americans were employed. It's also worth noting that unemployment decreased dramatically in the year after Roosevelt entered the White House, which followed a deep drop that lasted much of Hoover's term. The chart does, however, indicate the stabilization began in a waning days of the Hoover administration ...
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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>i thought that political threads here were to be locked asap and the joker who posted banned.<br>
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Stabilization? Yeah... unemployment stabilized at 25%! I guess even Hoover couldn't get it higher than that, try as he might.<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>What worked is that the American spirit is the strongest in the world. In order to be 1 at anything there has to be a mental toughness that is stronger than the problem at hand. America does not look like the great depression of the 30's nor will we head into a depression. <br><br><br><br>If you took everything away from me right now and i had to start out with no home and 0 money homeless on the street it would not defeat me. Instead of worrying about how bad things are i would immediatly start trying to figure out how to get back to the top with my talent. The difference between a loser and a winner is that a winner understands losing and learns from the mistakes, a loser continues to make mistakes and at some point gives up hope.<br><br><br><br>The world today is over saturated with competition in all aspects of business, why do banks need 10 branches in a 20 mile radious?. Everyone wants to be a star or athlete and be recognized as somebody important. When i drove to New York to qualify for the 2006 Nationwide Tour event i was shocked at what the scene was, there were 200 people trying to qualify for 14 spots and of the 200 about 170 of them could not play dead in a John Wayne movie much less compete under a pressure packed 1 day event against professional athletes. I was partnered with a guy who on the first tee hit his ball out of bounds and immediatly i noticed a brown stain in his trousers(lol), he three putted 3 of 8 holes and i finally had to turn my back when he putted because it looked like Judge Smails from caddyshack. Somehow the guy was able to make it 8 holes before withdrawing, he shook my hand and said i am sorry for the display i put on today and holding you up, he then took off for the clubhouse. He was 12 over par and i thought to myself what is this world coming to. Even though i had to watch this F&%$ing hack somehow i managed to shoot 70 and miss qualifying by 2 shots. <br><br><br><br>What the country needs is a dose of reality not reality shows. The Lord loves a common man and that is why he created so many of them.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>David, it's very brave of you not to panic when you've got tenure.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandello</b><p>If there is one thing that David's post prove its that tenure should be abolished.
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Tenure is no iron-clad guarantee, Jeff. departments and programs are eliminated, and the tenured faculty go with them.<br><br>And, I'm 58, and will retire soon.<br><br>So maybe I am brave to not panic.<br><br>(I'm sure there's no shortage of legal defense work for you when times are hard (for others.) And it's probably extremely difficult to manage to be let go from your own firm. And, of course, there's always the radio. So why don't you keep on telling us how really bad things are, and how bad they're gonna get. Maybe you and the Group could do lunch a few times, and commiserate.)
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Yeah Jim. Too bad the tenure system wasn't linked to Lehman Bros. in some way.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>I envy Jeff's stock market savvy. Makes one trade and shorts the stock of a company that a fellow board member worked for. So in your opinion the company with the most downside in America was Lehman. Good call. Inside info Jeff ?? (just kidding, you know I appreciate the help you gave me).<br><br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br><br>Unknown author <br><br>--<br><br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br><br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br><br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Dennis- If I remember correctly the last time a ban warning was given was after a political thread had gone on for about 4-5 days, several were started and locked, and warnings were given. So far this is only 1 thread and I think it's safe to ask for this to be the only politically natured one, for the time being. I would prefer not to really have them at all but if they are contained to one thread, and don't go on forever, then I don't think they hurt too much. Others might disagree.....regards
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>"And it's probably extremely difficult to manage to be let go from your own firm."<br><br>Brilliant, David. You're right: I'm immune from the bad economy because I can't fire myself. Now try to imagine a world where you don't have a guaranteed paycheck -- shudder! -- and you have to wait for the phone to ring in order to get paid -- shock! -- and if the phone doesn't ring you still have to pay out six figures in salaries to employees -- gasp! And imagine a world where if all of your reviews were negative you'd go out of business instead of getting that guaranteed paycheck! Do I need to get the smelling salts out, now?
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>Leon you are a true gentleman and a scholar. The First Amendment lives on VBC.<br>=<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>With over 50 threads on the main board why do folks like Dennis constantly complain? If i read a thread and it sucks i just move on. When you roll up to the club and there are 200 guys and 10 girls then it it obvious it is a sausage bar so roll out.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Richard, I didn't think Lehman had the most downside in America -- I'm hardly a stock analyst. But I felt that the investment banks were clearly being targeted by the shorts (Bear had just collapsed) and that the subprime mess had yet to really be felt in that sector. Panic and bad news in a sector make stocks go down. And I never dreamed that Bear could collapse; once it did I felt that Lehman was the logical choice to be next due to the perfect storm that was brewing. Hardly a major insight on my part, though.
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Posted By: <b>Eric Brehm</b><p>The First Amendment doesn't mean <i>squat</i> in this situation. This is an on-line community where members agree to abide by the rules governing their participation if they choose to participate. Leon keep up the good work...
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Nice selective reading, Jeff. Why don't you take a gander at the sentence preceding the one you quoted. You know, the sentence which caused the following one to begin with the word "and." <br>(Or, alternatively, you could have one of your legal assistants read it for you, and summarize.)<br><br>Like I said, I'm sure all the newly-discovered white-collar criminals are gonna need <i>someone's</i> services. And doesn't drug use--and hence dealer's activities--go up in bad times? If things get really bad for ya, I'm sure WABC will give you a few more hours to regale us all.<br><br>Not to worry, Jeff. You'll be fine.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I think it's okay to have a thread once in a while where people who have something in common can talk about things they don't have in common...as long as it doesn't get personal....It's already gone there. Please play nicely guys. I don't understand why it has to get nasty. Just agree to disagree and move on.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Hey guys....<br><br>In an effort to redirect energy, please look at the image below and then<br>guess as to what the items are...<br><br>There are 22 items. Hints: One of the autographs is of a player<br>mentioned above, the last item has been mentioned already, a few times.<br><br><img src="http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/stuff.jpg" alt="[linked image]">
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>For what it is worth if i am in New York and would ever have a problem and need a defense attorney Lichtman would recieve a call because you can tell instantly the guy is not going to back down from a fight. I wonder if -Gasp-...some folks on here are jealous...-Gasp-.....that the guy is different....-Gasp-.......and makes fun of gals with fat asses....-Gasp-......uses words like Suck.....-Gasp-......and collects Hal Chase and Ty cobb.....-Gasp-......and does things like....Gasp-.......which are not normal......-Gasp_......
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>That black bird on the left looks like it's made out of "the stuff that dreams are made of."<br><br>And the Stone looks a bit small. I think even Ted might have a hard time reading that.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I agree that my Rosetta stone is not full size... it still tickles me a bit when I hold it, look at it, and struggle through the Greek. No chance of me reading anything else on there.<br><br>As for my Maltese Falcon, he's the right size. I've yet to bust him open, I'm doubtful that anything in there is gem-encrusted.<br><br>David has 2 of the 22.<br><br>Come on, guys!
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Posted By: <b>bruce Dorskind</b><p><br><br><br>We suspect after the Nutty Professor retires, he will be consulting to the North Koreans...<br>Certainly they have had their share of physics experiments gone bad. And they really do<br>appreciate angry irrational Communists. Perhaps he will be forced to sell his Opening Day<br>Yankee Stadium program at a bargain price before he and his family are allowed to move to Pyongyang <br><br>As for the Nutty Professor's analysis of the stock market, it is about as accurate as his ultra left<br>wing political nonsense.<br><br>They must be counting the days to his retirement at the Dean's Office at Skidmore.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>David, you pointed out that I can't be fired by myself. I think I understood your (ridiculous) point. And of course I'll be just fine. I have good reviews and a good business instead of bad reviews and a guaranteed paycheck. And when I retire I'll do it with what I've earned in my lifetime not from a pension handed to me. And yet I'm still not an angry scold, can you believe it? <br><br>As for my legal assistants that work for me they're called 'associates' -- you know, like as in 'associate professor.'
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Posted By: <b>marshall barkman</b><p>Well it has been fun gents. I'm off because there are two horses running at Aquaduct today that i like in the Gotham stakes. Haynesfield will run his eyeballs out and watch out for Russell Road because James Casey is a staunch old veteran who would never ship a horse to New York unless the horse could run, also Travis Dunkelberger is the craziest SOB on the planet and would bet on two flys crawling up a wall so if he is riding the horse no one or anything will intimidate him.
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>Methinks that whilst the professor wouldst not consult for the North Koreans, nor would any of the other proletarians on this board, there are other elitists who would have happily consulted for Peron, Batista, Pinochet and others of that persuasion.<br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br>Unknown author <br>--<br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br>The Boss
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Yeah, Jeff. All the dealers that you keep on the streets give your business an A+ rating. (And you haven't disappointed the murderers, either.)<br><br>You've got much to be proud of.<br><br>Keep up the good work.
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>bruce Dorskind</b><p><br><br><br>Richard<br><br><br><br><br><br>I f they paid their bills in US Dollars, we would certainly have consulted to Perrone<br>and Fulgencio Batista. Imagine how much better our collection Cuban Baseball<br>memorabilia would have been if we were working with Fulgencio. <br><br><br><br>As we like to say... where there is a bill there is a way.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Glad I went out for a few hours and got some fresh air...it's 65 degrees today in the big city.
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>David, you can't be an Obama-lover and also hate people that enforce constitutional rights of those accused of crimes (unless you're just jealous -- you'd never be jealous, would you David?). In fact, defense lawyers and defendants alike are tickled pink about Obama's election as it will mean the appointment of a plethora of liberal judges who are thought to go easier on criminals. Obama is very good for business, I assure you.<br><br>And I am very proud of my work and the fact that all of the media in New York think that I'm a very good defense lawyer. I mean, it's not the same as being trashed by every single student of mine on ratemyprofessor.com but I'm still proud of my record. Now I'll tell you what I tell my 'associates': if you work hard, treat people well and are not lazy you can throw off that 'associate' label and really accomplish something someday. Since you're close to retirement, I'd advise you to pick it up a notch, however.<br><br>
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Jeff, the day you give up your lucrative practice of keeping drug dealers and murderers (who you know are guilty) on the streets (and rationalizing what you do with that self-serving crap you spout), and go work for the ACLU is the day I'll have a bit of respect for you.<br><br><br><br>Seems like you like to have it both ways. First you want us to GASP! and SHUDDER! at the thought of you having to provide your own paycheck, and then you admit that Obama (who's so bad for everyone else) is good for your business.<br><br>Maybe there's a reason why lawyer jokes are so popular, while physicist jokes are virtually non-existent.<br><br>Jealous? I earned a doctorate in theoretical physics, publishing original research (which is still cited in the literature) when I was twenty-five. I don't think I would have had much of a problem in law school had that been my desire.<br><br>And, Jeff, what you don't seem to understand, is that I'm a physicist, not a physics teacher. My job is to suss out how the world works, and not to keep entitled-feeling children happy. Although you seem to get quite a kick out of it, I don't really care what ten or so angry students who couldn't cut it have to say about me. I've been at it a long time, and I've taught thousands of students through the years. I'm sure my percentage of satisfied "customers" is as high as yours.<br><br>Not to mention that my "successes" go on to fulfilling careers of their own, teaching others and adding to humankind's knowledge of the universe.<br><br>Your successes just keep on selling dope and killing people.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Just a bunch of heathens!!!!<br><br><br>I read through all of this stuff, then go to considerable effort to dig out some fairly good old baseball stuff, and barely a nibble.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>David, no one cares what you think, especially me. And certainly no one cares if you respect them. I would be remiss not to point out what was sent to me via email a few minutes ago. Of the 321 professors from Skidmore who have been rated on ratemyprofessors.com, your overall rating was number 311. But of course it's the students' fault, not yours. (I have to admit to some surprise, however, that you managed to score higher than 10 of 321 -- are the other 10 in jail for murdering students?)<br><br>Your comment about Obama, of course, makes no sense. Where did you get your degree? And plenty of people go to law school but very few are successful lawyers. I am fairly certain, however, that if you were in a profession in which the paycheck was not a guarantee, you'd be living in a Frigidare box right now.
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
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(don't jump in on because it's political) Jim Bunning (on BB HOF'ers vs. politicians)
Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Frank:<br><br>I see:<br><br>1) A 33 Goudey Ruth<br>2) A 34 Goudey Gehrig<br>3) A 39 Playball DiMaggio<br>4) A Zeenut, don't know the player or year<br>5) A T210, don't know the player<br>6) A Red Sun, don't know the player<br>7) A Wagner - E92? E105?<br>8) N172. Tim Keefe?<br>9) T206 Demmitt<br>10) T206 Bat On<br>11) T206 Bat Off<br>12) T206 Cy Young Throwing<br>13) T206 Matty Black Cap<br>14) T206 Johnson Portrait<br>15) A photo - Stan Musial on the left, maybe? Don't recognize the player on the right.<br>16) Don't recognize the card or issue.<br>17) Sporting News supplement, maybe?<br>18) Letter from someone in the Cards organization - can't make out the signature.<br>19) Looks like an R312, maybe the Gas House Gang? I have an R311 Gas House Gang that looks similar.<br>20) A T3 I don't recognize, that also looks a little narrow.<br>21) A statue and a rock.<br><br>How'd I do?<br><br>-Al
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Who'd the email come from, Jeff? Crandell or Bruce?<br><br>(BTW, I'm surprised there are ten rated worse than me, too! I can't think of another college discipline more unpopular than physics.)<br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Is the T210 card Stengel?<br><br>and is the letter signed by Branch Rickey?
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>LOL, I'll admit those were good guesses but you're wrong.<br><br>(Oh and your rating was apparently the lowest of all the Physics professors rated. Maybe you just get all the dumb kids who couldn't cut it while the other professors got the future Nobel Peace Prize winners.)
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Posted By: <b>Michael Steele</b><p>The T-210 looks like Stengel. If it is, awesome card. The Wagner could be an E90-1 batting pose but that pose was used a bunch.
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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>I thought Branch Rickey, Dan, but it looks like there's a letter that dips down below the line, like a cursive f or g.<br><br>I'm glad there's not a ratemyadguy.com, by the way.<br><br>-Al
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Frank, thanks for the view of the stuff on the table. I've never seen a Fatima premium in person and from your pic you really get an idea of how big they were.
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Bruce, what's it like having a business so big and successful it takes up your entire kitchen table?
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Al's list, with Dan's and Michael's choices<br><br><br>1) A 33 Goudey Ruth ***Al's right!<br>2) A 34 Goudey Gehrig ***Al's right!<br>3) A 39 Playball DiMaggio ***Al's right!<br>4) A Zeenut, don't know the player or year *** almost a ZeeNut, no credit<br>5) A T210, don't know the player ***Dan and Michael are right, Casey Stengel.<br>6) A Red Sun, don't know the player *** a Red Sun, someone might know<br>7) A Wagner - E92? E105? ***Michael is right about Wagner, it's an E102<br>8) N172. Tim Keefe? *** no... but he's a HOFer and a lawyer<br>9) T206 Demmitt ***yes, the St. Louis one<br>10) T206 Bat On ***Al's right!<br>11) T206 Bat Off ***Al's right!<br>12) T206 Cy Young Throwing ***Al's right!<br>13) T206 Matty Black Cap ***Al's right!<br>14) T206 Johnson Portrait ***Al's right!<br>15) A photo - Stan Musial on the left, maybe? Don't recognize the player on the right. ***Al's right with Musial, now who's the other player?<br>16) Don't recognize the card or issue.<br>17) Sporting News supplement, maybe?<br>18) Letter from someone in the Cards organization - can't make out the signature. ***Dan's nailed that, a 1931 Branch Rickey signed letter, my spare Rickey autograph. Good one, Dan<br>19) Looks like an R312, maybe the Gas House Gang? I have an R311 Gas House Gang that looks similar. ***Not the Gas House Gang, but you're in the right league.<br>20) A T3 I don't recognize, that also looks a little narrow. ***I think he's the right size, hint, a hold out Cub.<br>21) A statue ***David already got the Maltese Falcon<br>22) and a rock. ***and David got the Rosetta Stone that's been discussed.<br><br><br>So that leaves::<br><br>4)<br>6)<br>8)<br>15) the other half<br>16)<br>17) something much rarer than a Wagner T206...<br>19)<br>20)<br><br>Let's bring some noise on this!!!!<br>
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>And Dan has sussed out #17...<br><br>T200 Fatima premium of Cleveland. Good eye!!! Reckon I could send it in and get it authenticated??
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>That would be one huge slab. and we all know how you love plastic Frank. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="wink.gif"><br><br>and the player pictured with Musial is Teddy Ballgame.
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>John Montgomery Ward.
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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>Of course that's Ted Williams. How silly of me.<br><br>I've never seen a Fatima premium, Frank, but I would definitely put that in some sort of frame.<br><br>-Al
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Posted By: <b>Michael Steele</b><p>The T-3 is Johnny Kling. Wow, nice T200 premium. The first I have also seen. Did they make premiums for all of the teams in the set?
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Funny--our resident anarchist gets about the worst ranking of the entire staff and blames it on that he is teaching physics--those poor poor students.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Better, guys. Impressive!!<br><br><br>4)<br>6)<br>8) ***Peter ID's John M. Ward, an N172 HOFer.<br>15) the other half ***Dan ID's Ted Williams, who was mentioned in the<br>original post. That photo's always troubled me, some say Musial was<br>6'0", and Williams 6'3", looks like Ted is on his tippytoes.<br>16)<br>19)<br>20) ****Michael's correct on the T3, that's Cub's catcher Kling.<br><br><br>so that leaves::<br><br>4) hint, not quite a ZeeNut<br>6) hint, a Nashville player (and maybe too obscure for anyone)<br>16) hint, a Cub from an early tobacco issue<br>19) hint, pastel, NL team<br>
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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Hey guys....that is not just a T200 Fatima premium of Cleveland......<br><br>That is Joe Jackson's "biggest" card !<br><br><br>T-Rex TED<br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>And my T200 premium was in a frame, that's how I bought it. Four pieces of wood, cut to fit around the T200. 1" nails in the back, holding it in place. No glass. No backing. Just T200 plus wood plus nails. You can see where the nails wore grooves into the border. The premium was exposed to lots of smoke and humidity over the years. It is a bit warped from the humidity, which put pressure on it where the nails touched. It isn't perfectly flat. It's well worn. And it is a real T200 premium which makes up for its faults.<br><br>My understanding is that some premiums were made of all teams. <br><br>Maybe someone with access to cardpricer could tell us the last time there was a sale of a Cleveland Americans T200 premium.
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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Right, Ted. <br><br>Joe Jackson standing on the left, between the manager and the team, as<br>tall as your hand. <br><br>When viewed in person you can easily see Jackson's belt buckle set off<br>to his left a bit, not centered with the fastening of his pants. As most<br>know players did that so the buckle wouldn't cut their belly if they<br>were sliding belly down.
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Home Run Kisses? No idea what player.
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Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Crandell, do you even know what an anarchist is?<br><br>Oh those poor, poor investors.
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Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>He ran out of things to call you David so he decided to pluck out of the air a word that he heard on Limbaugh one day. The definition was not relevant, Rush told him to use it.<br><br>==<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br><br>Unknown author <br><br>--<br><br>We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br><br>No retreat baby, no surrender.<br><br>The Boss
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