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Peter_Spaeth 02-06-2016 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1500911)
Sorry Peter, I was never disappointed in the Bucks, for I never watched one of their games.:D

I take that back. I do think I watched one of their games when a kid named Alcindor was playing.:rolleyes:

Yeah that kid was the kareem of the crop.

Joshchisox08 02-06-2016 09:55 AM

Used to be a big time NBA fan, used to play basketball way more than baseball as well.

I haven't watched the NBA in about 10 years now. Interest faded. I was, believe it or not was a Jordan/Bulls fan. Then when Rip Hamilton made it to the NBA (used to follow UCONN being from CT and all) I was a Detroit fan.

Those Detroit teams were what the NBA was all about. They played defense and because of that they were not well liked. Most fans liked a boring 100+ points a game where opponents would just let a guy shoot without putting up a hand.

My father and I full heartedly believed that the officiating (even more so around that time period) was completely rigged. The superstars or the teams that would draw the most revenue/fans/ticket sales would get all the calls. Not only all the calls but an over obvious one-sided plethora of bull shit whistle blowing to keep them in the game. I remember that Rasheed Wallace had been suspended for "Speaking of conspiracy theories" What could he have possibly been talking about?????

Shortly after one officiator get's defined as the scapegoat and goes to jail. It was just him that was crooked wasn't it?????????? SURE. Although my father and I knew that it was going on, the fact that it officially became true and they singled out one referee and let all the others take no heat was enough for me. I simply lost total interest after that.

wolf441 02-06-2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1500888)
With all the hoopla justifiably surrounding GS, it's easy to overlook that the Spurs are 42-8, just three games behind them. My perception, and maybe it was always the case, is that there are a seemingly endless number of mediocre to really BAD teams and that there is just no point watching a typical game.

+1 on the Spurs. Growing up in Boston, I've been a Celtic fan all my life. That said, Tim Duncan is my all time favorite NBA player. It still hurts that the ping pong balls didn't bounce in the Celtics favor, but think of what a career Duncan has had. And I can't think of one remotely negative story that has ever come out about him. No arrests, no abuse charges, not getting players traded, whining about not getting enough shots. He just quietly went about putting up one of the top five careers of all time.

My wife has no real interest in sports, but she is aware of the top names (Brady, Tiger, Arod, Lebron, Jordan, etc....). As I test, I asked her about Tim Duncan. She couldn't even tell me what sport he played. Now that is a superstar who flies under the radar!!

Joshchisox08 02-06-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Archive (Post 642745)
Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Sounds like integration ruined the NBA for most fans on the board. Tattoos? Tattoos are why you don't like the NBA? Come on! I think you mean tattoos combined with corn rows, don't you? Pretty sure some of the people saying tattoos and thugs are ruining the NBA are the same ones who sang the praises of Josh Hamilton's Home Run Derby performance and wore fake Jason Giambi moustaches at Yankee Stadium. Or won't you watch those guys because they have tattoos?<br><br>The NBA is alive and well here in Colorado, in spite of the tattoos. <br><br>GO NUGGETS! <br><br>-Ryan

Tattoos are a pretty stupid reason. I think it's more the people who are wearing them. I wouldn't so much call them thugs but more like wannabe "hard", "fake thug", etc.

53Browns 02-06-2016 04:13 PM

It's not a surprise. The same will eventually happen to the NFL. After all, they are mere sports. It was Baseball however that President William Howard Taft, in 1910, declared as officially being our National Pastime. The rest....fads. :D

pariah1107 02-06-2016 04:51 PM

Tattoos? Are you guys serious? Character issues? I don't see that either.

The top players in the league; LeBron James, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant all seem to be men of the highest moral order. No more Jailblazers, Malice at the Palace, or Gilbert Arenas just being an idiot.

Watch some basketball, before you comment on such things; Golden State is a great example of teamwork and execution. The Spurs are a methodical machine with veteran leadership. Their games are lessons in sharing the basketball, and selflessness. Rather see that than isolation, one-on-one, Utah Jazz pick-and-rolls, or Kobe jacking up 30 shots a game. IMO the team game has dramatically improved in the last ten years.

That being said, something needs to be done about intentional fouls to poor free throw shooters. That practice is almost epidemic, and horrible to watch. Just my two cents.

Econteachert205 02-06-2016 05:20 PM

Steph curry has reinvigorated the nba because he looks like a normal person. That's the appeal of baseball, Dustin pedroia could be the guy bagging your groceries.

bbcard1 02-06-2016 05:30 PM

I have not paid any attention for a number of years. Hassan Whiteside has got me at least interested in the Heat.

Louieman 02-06-2016 05:40 PM

I've always liked almost all sports but basically proclaimed myself a baseball fan only. Basketball used to be near the bottom of my list, but honestly I never really had a good reason (maybe because I was terrible at playing it).

But in the last few years, watching the Golden State Warriors has completely flipped that around for me. And now I watch intently all the time, for both the Dubs and other teams.

And honestly, I regret that I didn't do it earlier. I never gave basketball the attention it deserved. I feel that everything that baseball doesn't have, basketball does, and vice-versa. The two sports give me everything I love about sports. And there's plenty of great athletes and great people in both.

Baseball is a sport for the patient, for those who appreciate history. So much happens when seemingly nothing is happening. And basketball is all about a rhythm, about a pace that absolutely crams as much action as you can into such a little time. And at times, especially with the Dubs, it looks beautiful, just like baseball. My two cents

Joshchisox08 02-06-2016 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Browns (Post 1501094)
It's not a surprise. The same will eventually happen to the NFL. After all, they are mere sports. It was Baseball however that President William Howard Taft, in 1910, declared as officially being our National Pastime. The rest....fads. :D

I sure hope you're right about the NFL. God how I can't stand that profession or league.

I believe there was a study and there was like 5 minutes of actual gameplay in the 55 hours it takes to play a game. The rest is players shooting up, beating wives, shooting each other, QBs on the phone, and guys scratching their crotches.

Peter_Spaeth 02-06-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Econteachert205 (Post 1501127)
Steph curry has reinvigorated the nba because he looks like a normal person. That's the appeal of baseball, Dustin pedroia could be the guy bagging your groceries.

Or maybe he has reinvigorated it because he is the greatest pure shooter of all time and a great team player as well? I don't think his looks have much to do with it. Michael Jordan was wildly popular; in the context of the times with his shaved head and earring his looks were not exactly the guy next door but who cared.

Joshchisox08 02-06-2016 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Econteachert205 (Post 1501127)
Steph curry has reinvigorated the nba because he looks like a normal person. That's the appeal of baseball, Dustin pedroia could be the guy bagging your groceries.

Or Pigroia and his snout could be found at your local farm as well :D

mickeymao34 02-06-2016 08:45 PM

NBA 80s and early 90s never to be repeated. But i have to agree with Curry.. Amazing player with old school team first ethics and a spectacular talent with seemingly zero modern day athlete arrogance.

timn1 02-06-2016 10:47 PM

Steph
 
I had given up on the NBA a long time ago (not for the "thug" reasons - BTW, some of you guys need to rethink your terminology, IMO). But Steph has inspired everywhere he has played - he got my alma mater Davidson to the Elite 8, for cryin' out loud. Now he's on track to be one of the iconic BKB players in history. Awesome!

BicycleSpokes 02-07-2016 12:11 PM

Steph is the most entertaining athlete alive right now. He has changed the math of the sport.

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Hot Springs Bathers 02-08-2016 09:21 AM

Not an indictment of the NBA at all but I don't ever hear a single word about the game? No one ever mentions watching a game or even the highlights from the night before. I have not watched a minute of an NBA game in over 20 years.

Of course I live in the south where all talk is about SEC football, SEC recruiting and SEC Spring games.

insidethewrapper 02-08-2016 09:31 AM

The regular season means nothing . It's all the playoffs. The players only play half the game and are resting for the playoffs, which I never watch because it's during baseball season and summertime. Seems like a lot of gang type players which I can't relate too. Maybe I'm to old.


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