T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The following 20 (T206) Subjects from the Southern League (8 teams) are included in the T213-1 set.<br /><br />Bay (Nashville)<br />Bernhard (Nashville)<br />Breitenstein (New Orleans)<br />Carey (Memphis)<br />Cranston (Memphis)<br />Ellam (Nashville)<br />Fritz (New Orleans)<br />Greminger (Montgomery)<br />Hart (Little Rock)<br />Hart (Montgomery)<br />Hickman (Mobile)<br />Jordan (Atlanta)<br />Lentz (Little Rock)....sic..(Sentz)<br />Molesworth (Birmingham)<br />Perdue (Nashville)<br />Persons (Montgomery)<br />Reagan (New Orleans)<br />Rockenfeld (Montgomery)<br />Smith (Atlanta)<br />Thornton (Mobile)<br /><br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>Thanks Ted - that's exactly what I was looking for.

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />As usual, you deliver the goods.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing!

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Try reading this document regarding the PEOPLE'S TOBACCO CO. of Louisana and it should provide more detail regarding Brian W's post. <br /><br /><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=246&invol=79" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=246&invol=79</a><br /><br />TED Z

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>The majority of T213-1's (except the 20 - So. Lgers.) are the same Subjects that fit the A-B-C-D pattern of the T206's.<br />I don't think this is a mere coincidence....it was by design.<br /><br />TED Z

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> Happy Father's Day.... It took you a few more days than I thought...<br /> But you are still the man. Keep searching there's more to the story.<br /><br /> Be well Brian

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>And, a Happy Father's Day to you, too....ole Buddy.<br /><br />I've been tracking this connection for some time now....ever since I became interested in the People's Tobacco Co. (T216) cards;<br /> and, the Louisana connection.<br /><br />You and I should compare our notes.<br /><br />Be good,<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> I look forward to it... <br /> Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS Who has the time machine this week???? You or me???

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>John Scott emailed me with an interesting point. John feels that the T213-1 cards should really be classified as an "ASSORTED"<br /> brand in the T206 set. As a long time Brooklyn collector, John has all five T213-1 Brooklyn players (Dunn, Hunter, Lennox, Mar-<br />shall and McElveen).<br />Furthermore, he has observed that these same five Subjects in the T206 set are very difficult to find with ASSORTED backs (or<br /> they just don't exist). <br /><br />After some consideration, I think his point regarding the T213-1's makes very good sense......what do you think ?<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>I've always wondered why carve out the same-front type 1s from T206 and group them with the quite different type 2 and type 3 cards. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>While Burdick definitely made a few mistakes (W503, H801-7 etc...) I still feel the T213's are correctly categorized. All 3 series got put in with Coupon Cigarettes and should be in the same category...to me it still makes the most sense. regards

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>T213-1 is a fascinating issue because it seems to straddle two different sets. It's shares a Coupon ad back with the later series 2 and 3, and it conforms to the design of the T206 A-B-C-D backs, making it appear to be a T206. <br /><br />I lean towards it being part of T206, but there is a compelling argument the other way too.

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Your T206 Brooklyn guys....Dunn, Hunter, Lennox, Marshall, and McElveen are only found with one ASSORTED brand....TOLSTOI.<br />I scanned several T206 surveys to determine this.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> Here's a Marshall for you....<br /><br />[IMG]<img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0018-7.jpg">[/IMG]<br />[IMG]<img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0019-6.jpg">[/IMG]

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Show us some more of your DRUM's......we don't often see enough of them.<br /><br />Best regards ole Buddy,<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Four Frank Delehanty cards illustrating an actual example of the A-B-C-D connection.<br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/delehantyabblcydrum.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcydrumbacks.jpg"><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>One of my several A-B-C combinations waiting for a DRUM to complete the connection.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcygrimshaw.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcygrimshawbks.jpg"><br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Another one of my several A-B-C combinations waiting for a DRUM to complete the connection.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcytannehill.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcytannehillbks.jpg"><br /><br />TED Z

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>johnny</b><p>TED!!!<br /><br />u noticed the darker color pied fact 42 "dark blue"....they are a variation of the "light" blue!!!!!!....i have been following them ...I THINK I HAVE 2 DARK BLUE PIED 42'S, took me a while to get...i'll check who they are , but they are like 5% of the total, kinda like a "brown" lenox or a a back color variation...in any case, they are pretty tuff!!!<br /><br /><br />johnny

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>That Piedmont 460 Fac. 42 caught my eye instantly. I have never seen one with a dark blue back<br /> like the one that Marc posted on this thread. I have four of these rare backs and they all look like <br />they are "faded" blue.<br /><br />I would be interested in knowing what T206 Subjects are on your dark blue versions.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Campbell is one tough T206 with any back, other than a Piedmont 350.<br /><br />Also, note the difference in the sunsets between each of these three cards.<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcycampbell.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcycampbellbks.jpg"><br /><br />TED Z

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>J Hull</b><p>Nice Campbells, Ted.<br /> <br />I suspect the amount of red in the sky relates to the strength of the red ink layer on the card. Looks to me like the red in the "C" on his sleeve is much stronger and darker in the first card, which is also the one with more red clouds in the sky.<br /> <br />Jamie

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> You might add a Drum if you are really lucky, but it's easier to add one of these:<br /><br />[IMG]<img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0026-3.jpg">[/IMG]<br />[IMG]<img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0027-4.jpg">[/IMG]<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS You have been buying too many rare backs....

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I once had 8 - CAROLINA BRIGHTS....but, now I have just one. A sharp looking Clymer.<br /><br />I should have kept the others and built a sub-set of them. I acquired them years ago<br /> when they were inexpensive.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Hey BRIAN<br /><br />There has to be a DRUM out there on this Blue Chase. The other 5 super-prints all have been<br /> confirmed with DRUM backs.<br /><br />What say you ?<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcychaseblue.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/abblcychasebluebks.jpg"><br /><br />TED Z

T206 DRUM's....and their "A-B-C-D connection"
 

Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>Calling Scot Reader, Calling Scot Reader,<br /><br />Scot, I'd like to see an addendum to your T206 synopsis to include the T213-1 issues and speculation that it is really a T206 issue. Regardless, I enjoy your work regularly and have shared it extensively.