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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>Fair enough David, and one thing is undeniable for us both.<br />To see a horse in flight is a beautiful thing.<br /><br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Paul, <br /><br />Jeff's point doesn't seem like a stretch to me. The result seems to be about the same. One participant winds up either dead or injured. <br /><br />Then again, there is nothing as elegant or beautiful as 1,200 pounds of glue stumbling and falling before being shot in the head. <br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Ryan- If every single horse race ended with a horse having to be put down then you are absolutely correct.....So the cockfight analogy is not correct unless that happens as in cockfighting the loser is either dead or gets thrown away and dies (literally, from what I have seen on video)......<br /><br />For the record...and I will state it again...I am 100% against cruelty to animals. I just think folks sometimes embellish and take things to extremes to make their case look good. Jeff L is the best there is at it....

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Leon, <br /><br />Horse racing and cock fighting are obviously not EXACTLY the same. Let me know when you find another "sport" that has to execute participants to end their suffering from an injury sustained in an activity they didn't choose to participate in. <br /><br />I guess you would only consider it cruel if EVERY single race featured the death of a horse? If not, what percentage of dead horses is acceptable? Be sure to factor in those non-winners who are auctioned off to become yummy horse meat.<br /><br />-Ryan<br />

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>Huh? The goal of a cock fight(I assume) is a fight to the death. I'm pretty sure that's not the case with horse racing. If the horses were raced in an endless loop around the track to see who died first, then I could see your point. It seems some people are placing a higher value on the life of a horse than other animals. They don't seem to mind eating a steak or piece of chicken from a mass slaughterhouse, but all of a sudden get a conscience when horses are running around a track.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You said:<br /><br />"Jeff's point doesn't seem like a stretch to me. The result seems to be about the same. One participant winds up either dead or injured."<br /><br /><br />So I appreciate you acknowledging you are wrong, in as much as it's unusual for a horse to be put down, which is still atrocious, and will just leave it at that. At least we agree on something....See ya in Chicago.....

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Leon, <br /><br />Can we also agree to have horse meat at the Net54 dinner? I hear Eight Belles is available. <br /><br />-Ryan

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Sorry, too late. I requested cockfight fajitas instead.........I am sure we will have fun again. I never mind having a good debate with friends..See ya there and take care...

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Posted By: <b>scott fandango</b><p>i was at belmont saturday and we got a good look at BB at the Paddock right before the race.....when we saw him,we said he looked exhausted..<br /> HE HAD NO SWEAT or LATHER on his skin, it was BONE DRY....this poor horse was dehydrated....all the others horses had that sheen already, they looked ready to go....<br /><br /> couple that with the sand like dirt at Belmont, the cracked hoof, and the poor ride by Kent (he ran into another horse from behind at one point), and the DNF makes sense to me...<br /><br /> place went silent, it was very eerie....we were expecting him to collapse before the finish line and be given the eight belles treatment.....

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Scott- Thanks for sharing your first-hand knowledge. <br /><br />So much for the argument that this is a "humane" "sport..."