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Posted By: <b>Harry Wallace (HW)</b><p>Jim, Enough is enough. Stop hijacking other's threads. Can you not see how rude it is?<br /><br />Why do you just call it "water under the bridge" as you did with reference to the number of altered cards in your collection?<br /><br />Or better yet, why do you not disclose how many altered cards you have in your collection and Doug will disclose how many light wrinkles he has taken out and you guys can make it a contest and talk about it over breakfast which your secretaries can set up for you.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />I have not bought cards from Gary for a long long time. Every single card I bought from him I had graded and 100% of them graded.<br /><br />Has he stated on here that he altered cards?

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Good for you Jim....others weren't so lucky.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />As one famous person in the hobby who is in a position to know told me back then he was 100 percent legit. <br /><br />Since then some people whom I respect(Frank Evanov for example)have had bad experiences with cards bought from him.

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Joe and I, and several helpers like Kevin and John, are working on the book now and hope to have it completed later this year. We are pretty far along but are novices to the process which is why I am not being more specific on the date. All I can say now is that we will try to picture as many of the poses as we can, and it looks like we should be able to get to almost 2350 of the 2471(as of this ten seconds)known poses.<br /><br />Doug--Perhaps we an make it a two volume boxed set.

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Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>Awesome Jay, I can't wait. A great addition to the hobby.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, you just maligned that Gary guy who, as I have been informed via email, is a very well known doctor!

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Jay - whenever someone says "That guy has forgotten more about the hobby than what I will ever know," it just makes me cringe. <br /><br />There is so much knowledge trapped in the minds of some of the hobby veterans that will never see the light of day. Most of these people take this hobby knowledge to the grave. In this information and technology age when it is so easy to communicate through various forms of media, it is really a shame. As a relative hobby noob, I applaud and thank you for taking the time to share such information and allow others to learn from it.<br /><br />Richard

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I think most hobby veterans are willing to share their knowledge if asked. That said, I think the book that Jay and Joe are doing will be an instant hobby classic (kind of like "Gone with the Wind" <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>).

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Barry - I have never owned an OJ before. If I ever wanted to learn about the issue and start collecting them, I would not pick up a phone to call Jay, as much as I'm sure he would want me to. <br /><br />The fact that he is willing to put down on paper his knowledge about the issue so that not only current collectors can learn about OJs, but also those 10, 20, 50 years down the road, is commendable.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>A definitive book on Old Judges, something that has never even been attempted before, is a monumental contribution to the hobby. If you ask me, this will be the most informative book ever written on a set of baseball cards. I too am excited to see it finished.

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Posted By: <b>DD</b><p>Hi,<br />First of all, what a great gift to the hobby. <br /><br />Can you briefly cover what the content will include, aside from the gallery? I am looking forward to buying a copy.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />David

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>This is big time stuff. It could very well open up a whole new interest in the Old Judges. I especially look forward to seeing the Toronto McGuire.

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/everyone_lg.jpg"><br />Jim;<br /><br />I think Doug answered this awhile back as others have pointed out. Doug it’s a good thing too because I intercepted an email that Jim’s next play was answer the question or the kitten gets it!<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/cat2020gun-704528.jpg"><br /><br />Perhaps Doug is just holding out for another Pizza party before he answers…maybe you should phrase your question a little more like this.<br /><br />“Dear Doug, are you a senior executive of a dishonest company that pulls fast ones on us simple folk? If so please publicly admit it for me….oh and by the way what do you want on your pie?”<br /><br />Man if this gets out of hand we could have another state of the hobby summit sponsored by Crandall & Dominos! And if theres no resolve in 30 mins everyone gets a free 2 liter Coke!<br /><br />Oh and no need to order cheesy bread, Jim will be there that's enough cheese for everyone.<br /><br />Jeff…too funny attention slut…my how are little troll has grown up.<br /><br />So there are my thoughts Jim its been a awhile since we danced...go ahead get the waterworks ready...Leon is waiting by for your attack whistle.<br /><br /><br />P.S. Jim recently you stated in a thread that you just place a top all bids phone bid with these auction houses, you even said in the same line you trust these guys. So if you trust these guys to bid on your behalf with your money why the witch hunt on pressing creases the latter seems trivial at best.<br />

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>I appreciate the multiple posts but you have to go to my thread to get my response--it does not pertain to the topic.

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Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Isn't it about time for the applesauce guy to chime in?

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>priceless

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>and I still like applesauce<br /><br /><br />(I would have posted sooner, but I was flossing)...

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Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Now I feel better.

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>My pleasure.

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Posted By: <b>Rich Klein</b><p>I always wanted to be the author of a long three digit thread. Now I can say I have made it on the Vintage Chat Board<br /><br />Regards<br />Rich

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>........you've come a long way baby.........

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p>lots of stuff you will never know Jim out of fear of some being sued for defamation (even though much of it would be true~)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWlOhi0BksA" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWlOhi0BksA</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWlOhi0BksA</a</a>><br /><br />yo Tom~<br /><br />BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />JimCrandell<br />(Login Davalillo)<br />Re: Jay Miller and Doug Allen<br />February 25 2008, 10:40 PM <br /><br />Scott,<br /><br />I would suggest asking an expert. Ask Dave Forman or Joe Orlando or Mike Baker what does he see the highest percentage of alterations in.<br /><br /><br />well,2 of these guys are probably experts anyway!<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>BcD</b><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKAfXdb5LsA" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKAfXdb5LsA</a><br /><br /><br><br>BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Rich Klein</b><p>I was referring to myself -- either<br /><br />The Theme from the Mary Tyler Moore Show (You're going to make it after all) -- I don't know if I have as much "spunk" as Mary though<br /><br />Or<br /><br />If You can Make it on the Vintage Chat Board -- you Can Make it anywhere (Theme from New York. New York)<br /><br />You tube hijackings are now welcomed with people looking for these<br /><br />Regards<br />Rich