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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p><br />Edit:<br />he's just not worth it. <br />Let talk about cards! <br /><br />Go Go White Sox<br />2005 World Series Champions!
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jim- if you are hoping to draw a nice crowd to our Jan 25 meeting, this may not be the best way to do it...just a thought.
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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...are harder to peg. They tend to be more religiously guided in their voting, and since they are Catholic, tend to vote more Republican. <br /><br />It's all stereotyping. There are always exceptions. Loads of rich white people loved Bill Clinton. Politics take all kinds. But it is not surprising that we would have a large Republican presence in a vintage baseball card chatboard, which is predominantly afluent white folk. Hell, there are hardly any pre-war black baseball players -- I am devoted to T206, hopelessly, and there is nary a black player to be found.<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Barry,<br /><br />I agree but I will not let a personal insult go unchallenged.<br /><br />Jim
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Well, I admire your moxie! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />No personal insult intended. Just thought what you said was pretty funny, and called the assertion garbage. Didn't call you garbage. If I recall, you did the same thing in a similar post.<br /> <br />And I don't think we are the Knights of the Round Table either. Nobody is insulting your honor.<br><br>Go Go White Sox<br />2005 World Series Champions!
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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>Can we get that NYC meeting on pay-per-view?!<br /><br />Jim, I kinda doubt your neighbor is poor, hispanic or not<br /><br />yes, Leon, let's quickly retreat back to an on-topic topic, such as why did the T206 set include the minor leagues at all? It's such a big undertaking...how big would one of today's sets be if it covered the majors and minor leagues too?<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Not true Paul--Bush won under 40 percent of the hispanic vote.<br /><br />I agree that it is to be expected that the majority of board members would be conservative repubs--frankly I am shocked that there are as many liberals as there seems to be. <br /><br />Leon might have to dop a poll on this.
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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>"Not true Paul--Bush won under 40 percent of the hispanic vote."<br /><br />I was not saying that a majority of hispanics vote Republican. I was saying that Republicans have better luck attracting hispanics with a religious agenda. <br /><br />There are tons of other variables at play. I really dislike speaking in stereotypes. <br />
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>The biggest variable is that the Cuban-Americans in Florida vote heavily Republican because of the Repubs stance vs Castro and communism.<br /><br />Mex-Amer vote heavily Dem which is why New Mexico shifting into Dem column and why Cali is safe for Dems.
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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>One of W's nephew's, George P., is part Mexican, I believe, and lives in Florida. They have made significant inroads with the Hispanic population in Florida in recent years.<br />Plus taking a kid in the middle of the night didn't help the Dems cause either!
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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>I always thought Reagan should have been immortalized in a star wars trading cards set.......<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> He spent enough on it to at least be recongnized for his efforts.<br />What's interesting is that in Australia and Europe, for years people weren't even sure that Reagan was actually alive, we'd watch his speeches rambling mid sentence from one completely different idea and topic to another, look around, and wonder if the CIA hadn't found a way to keep a cadaver alive and feed it speech to befuddle a nation. I say this not to offend - though of course it will, but it was incredible coming to the USA and seeing the way America remembered his tenure. And the reporting of it world wide......really, he was considered a bit of a joke by nearly every mainstream media organization outside of the US - and the cold war ending seen much more as a result of an extraordinarily politically brave leader called.....Mikhail Gorbachyov.<br /><br />Sorry ahead of time, but we watched the USA spend its future away under Reagan and recording astronomical budget deficits to that time unimaginable, and couldn't understand how this government could be called a conservative one.<br />At least Nancy understood stem cell research, however little JimC might <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />Daniel<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Jason,<br /><br />Thanks for the offer of buying my '80s cards. I'd rather trade them for your prewar cards. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jason- how dare you try to break up a good fight under the pretense of talking about T206's <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>with such a weak question like that...<br /><br />I will step aside, and watch the carnage that will serve as my lunchtime reading <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Daniel,<br /><br />Whew! Lucky you got back to the U.S. in time before being totally brainwashed by the mainstream media.<br /><br />Tax cuts, strong economic growth, a buildup in defense and bringing down the evil empire. He was a legend.<br /><br />Jim
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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Resolved: I will read every post Jason L writes. Always very smart and often very funny as well. hee<br /><br />Joann<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Ketchup as a vegetable.<br /><br />Yup, he was a legend! <br /><br /><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>It's always great to have fans!<br />Of course, now there is tremendous pressure to write something funny and smart every time out, but now that I know that it matters, I will try to "bring it" every time I'm on the keyboard:)<br /><br />...amd someday, I hope to have gained enough knowledge about something that I can actually contribute to the learning process here on the Board!<br /><br />But you know what they say,...eh - I got nothin'
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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Well, I hadnt really been following this thread, saw that it was nearing 100 posts and thought - "better read this baby - there must be a fight going on."<br /><br />Hey, I got an idea, can we discuss Iraq now? That should be good for another 300 posts.<br /><br />Im with who ever stated that politics and religion ought to be banned topics on this board. Nothing good ever comes of it. Frankly, some of you are beginning to sound like a broken record.
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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>2004 Presidential elction results....source: The Almanac of American Politics<br /><br />George W Bush....62,040,606 (51%)....won 31 states....won 2530 counties<br /><br />John Kerry...........59,028,109 (48%)....won 19 states....won. 583 counties<br /><br />Depending on survey source....GW Bush received 42 - 45 % of the Hispanic vote<br /><br />NOTE....the 62,040,606 votes for GW Bush is the highest number of votes for a US President, ever.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>According to CNN(not Fox News),<br /><br />Bush-Kerry:<br /><br />Whites 58-41%(White Men 62-37%)<br />Blacks 11-88%<br />Latino 44-53%<br />Asian 44-56%<br />Other 40-54%<br /><br />By income, below $60,000 annual income more likely to vote for Kerry--above Bush.<br /><br />Most Important Issues:<br /><br />1)Moral Values!!<br />2)Economy<br />3)Terrorism<br />4)Iraq<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Please stop.
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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Josh K said,<br /><br /> "Well, I hadnt really been following this thread, saw that it was nearing 100 posts and thought - "better read this baby - there must be a fight going on."<br /><br />My thoughts exactly.<br /><br />What baffles me is how Republicans can consider themselves the party of fiscal responsibility when under Republican leadership in the past 27 years we have amassed hundreds of billions of dollars of debt and under Democratic leadership we amassed a budget surplus (as promised).<br /><br /><br />JimB<br /><br />Spending a lot on the war machine and a very little on education is a vicious cycle.<br />
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I have had enough of the politics....this has gotten way off topic....and I don't really want politics and religion on the board. My apologies to anyone that wanted to continuing discussing them. I imagine if you google a politics chatboard you will find one. This is not directed at anyone and is not personal. It's a general statement.....kind regards
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