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BobbyStrawberry 10-11-2025 12:10 AM

Should've let Flaherty go another inning.

ClementeFanOh 10-11-2025 05:09 AM

MLB Playoffs
 
Now THAT was playoff baseball! I had no rooting interest in Seattle/Det so it
was simply fun to watch. What a game! Trent King

egri 10-11-2025 05:34 AM

Now that the Red Sox and Tigers are out, and the Yankees have joined them on the golf course for the winter, I don't have a particular preference who wins it all, though I guess it would be nice for one of the teams who hasn't won it yet to pull through.

bk400 10-11-2025 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by egri (Post 2543242)
Now that the Red Sox and Tigers are out, and the Yankees have joined them on the golf course for the winter, I don't have a particular preference who wins it all, though I guess it would be nice for one of the teams who hasn't won it yet to pull through.

I'd like to see certain players do well. Roki Sasaki comes to mind.

CollectingAmericasPastime 10-11-2025 07:56 AM

Thank you Seattle for knocking the Tigers out. Their legacy will be blowing the largest divisional lead in MLB history and losing back to back ALDS Game 5s with Skubal on the mound.

Sincerely,

Cleveland fans

TUM301 10-11-2025 08:29 AM

really good game to watch hopefully Chi-Brewers comes close today. Thought Skubaul at 99 pitches would start the 7’th would like to hear that conversation and the thought process. Sox long gone so hoping for ANYONE other than L A.

Peter_Spaeth 10-11-2025 09:18 AM

The analytics may say otherwise. My experience says do not take out a starter with command (2 hits, 13Ks) unless he or his catcher tell you he's spent. Seen this movie so many times.

jayshum 10-11-2025 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2543284)
The analytics may say otherwise. My experience says do not take out a starter with command (2 hits, 13Ks) unless he or his catcher tell you he's spent. Seen this movie so many times.

While I agree with what you're saying, as someone else already mentioned, the announcers made it sound like Skubal basically tells the manager when he's done. I just read that the most pitches he's ever thrown in a game is 108 and that was in 2022. He was at 99 last night when he came out.

Peter_Spaeth 10-11-2025 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2543323)
While I agree with what you're saying, as someone else already mentioned, the announcers made it sound like Skubal basically tells the manager when he's done. I just read that the most pitches he's ever thrown in a game is 108 and that was in 2022. He was at 99 last night when he came out.

I guess we'll never know, but his last pitch clocked 101, how done could he have been, and I just find it hard to believe a pitcher of his caliber would pull himself from a one run deciding playoff game.

Balticfox 10-11-2025 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2543284)
The analytics may say otherwise. My experience says do not take out a starter with command (2 hits, 13Ks) unless he or his catcher tell you he's spent. Seen this movie so many times.

I agree.

While I'm very disappointed with the Tigers loss, I have to admit that they haven't been playing pennant winning caliber baseball since the All-Star break.

:(

jayshum 10-11-2025 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2543346)
I guess we'll never know, but his last pitch clocked 101, how done could he have been, and I just find it hard to believe a pitcher of his caliber would pull himself from a one run deciding playoff game.

Here's the explanation from Hinch:

"Easy decision," Hinch said. "After the fifth (inning), I checked in on him — how he was doing physically and emotionally. We both knew that he had one (inning) left. He emptied his tank and was emotional coming off the mound, and I think that signals exactly where we were in the game. He gave us everything he could. He's pitched on regular rest now three or four starts in a row. He empties his tank from pitch one. It was an easy decision."

bk400 10-11-2025 09:51 PM

Brewers -- Dodgers should be fun. It will be interesting to see if they can keep Ohtani bottled up. He had an OPS of 1.066 in 22 ABs this year against their pitching (versus a .626 OPS against the Cubs).

jayshum 10-12-2025 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2543454)
Brewers -- Dodgers should be fun. It will be interesting to see if they can keep Ohtani bottled up. He had an OPS of 1.066 in 22 ABs this year against their pitching (versus a .626 OPS against the Cubs).

The worst part of the Phillies loss to the Dodgers was that they kept Ohtani to 1-18 in the series but still lost 3 games out of 4.

Balticfox 10-12-2025 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060 (Post 2543266)
Thank you Seattle for knocking the Tigers out. Their legacy will be blowing the largest divisional lead in MLB history and losing back to back ALDS Game 5s with Skubal on the mound.

Sincerely,

Cleveland fans

Your resentment of the Detroit Tigers is misplaced. It wasn't Tiger fans who took your Indians from you. Blame the baseball establishment in New York for that.

:mad:

CollectingAmericasPastime 10-13-2025 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2543707)
Your resentment of the Detroit Tigers is misplaced. It wasn't Tiger fans who took your Indians from you. Blame the baseball establishment in New York for that.

:mad:

I have zero resentment towards the Tigers; that's simply a true rivalry that's fun again after the Tigers were truly crap for about a decade. The key to their recent success has been the hiring of a known cheater in Hinch. Last year, Skubal walked off the mound in Game 2 of the ALDS and called Cleveland fans the "B" word. We got our revenge with late game heroics in Game 4 with Fry and the incredible grand slam off Skubal in game 5 by Lane Thomas. Fast forward to this year, the recap of tweets from Tigers fans when they were up 15.5 games is hilarious to look back on. September was one of the most fun months of baseball I've been a part of as a Cleveland fan. I was at the game on the 23rd of September, with my kids, with Skubal on the mound when the Guardians scored 3 runs without a ball leaving the infield. The Guardians grabbed 1st place that game and never looked back. Such a fun run. Did Detroit get the better of us in the AL Wild Card? Yep - Cleveland shot themselves in the foot in game 1 with 2 unearned runs. That was our opportunity and Vogt blew it with poor starting lineup decisions. Ce la vie. In the end, we get to hang a banner and sit atop the record books. Detroit went home a week later has very little to show for it.

I loathe New York as well, but I'm not sure what they or anyone has to do with taking Indians from me. With that being said, really hoping the Brewers beat the Dodgers as the final middle finger to the criminal payroll cabal.

Looking forward to keeping this rivalry going next year, and congrats on a fun season that saw Detroit's first playoff series win in quite some time.

Balticfox 10-13-2025 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060 (Post 2543781)
I have zero resentment towards the Tigers; that's simply a true rivalry that's fun again after the Tigers were truly crap for about a decade.

Oh come on! That opening statement is hardly consistent with the rest of your post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060 (Post 2543781)
I loathe New York as well, but I'm not sure what they or anyone has to do with taking Indians from me.

You don't believe that Commissioner Rob Manfred and the rest of the baseball establishment in New York didn't exert heavy pressure on the owners of the Cleveland team to make the name change? It certainly wasn't the fans of the Indians.

The Indians were my favourite American League team edging out the Oakland Athletics for about fifty years. Now that both those teams are gone the Detroit Tigers have moved into my #1 slot.

:(

BobbyStrawberry 10-13-2025 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2543491)
The worst part of the Phillies loss to the Dodgers was that they kept Ohtani to 1-18 in the series but still lost 3 games out of 4.

I'd say the final play of the series was the worst part...

rowdy3 10-13-2025 07:46 PM

Really hope Seattle pulls it off.Sucks Griffey or Ichiro did't win a ring with them.

Snapolit1 10-13-2025 09:32 PM

Blake Snell is nasty. Very very nasty.

bk400 10-13-2025 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2543938)
Blake Snell is nasty. Very very nasty.

Surprised they pulled him to be honest.

bk400 10-13-2025 10:00 PM

Not to break the tension, but I love Ron Darling.

jayshum 10-14-2025 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2543942)
Not to break the tension, but I love Ron Darling.

I definitely prefer listening to him over John Smoltz.

SyrNy1960 10-14-2025 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowdy3 (Post 2543911)
Really hope Seattle pulls it off.Sucks Griffey or Ichiro did't win a ring with them.

Glad to see Seattle is up 2-0 against Toronto.

RayW 10-14-2025 09:35 AM

Both Phillies and Brewers intentionally walked Ohtani to load the bases, only to unintentionally walk Betts to push in a run.🤢

jp1216 10-14-2025 10:59 AM

That Brewers 8-6-2 DP was incredible. Certainly something you don't see every day. No excuse for the runner on 3rd not scoring on that but the other runners were so confused. I know one ump was signaling no catch and the 3rd base coach saw it that way too.
Assuming the runner on 3rd had scored - they still likely would've turned two with the runners on 1st and 2nd not advancing.

jayshum 10-14-2025 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp1216 (Post 2543990)
That Brewers 8-6-2 DP was incredible. Certainly something you don't see every day. No excuse for the runner on 3rd not scoring on that but the other runners were so confused. I know one ump was signaling no catch and the 3rd base coach saw it that way too.
Assuming the runner on 3rd had scored - they still likely would've turned two with the runners on 1st and 2nd not advancing.

So if there were force outs recorded at third and second, the run still wouldn't have counted.

jp1216 10-14-2025 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2544001)
So if there were force outs recorded at third and second, the run still wouldn't have counted.

Exactly!

rlevy 10-15-2025 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2544001)
So if there were force outs recorded at third and second, the run still wouldn't have counted.

The runner from first (Edman) had actually touched second base before retreating back to first, therefore while he could be put out because 2 runners couldn't both occupy first base, the force was no longer in play for him. There is no rule against him going back to first (except it was already occupied by the batter (Muncy). So only Smith (the runner from second) could be forced out, since he never touched third base. It then becomes a timing play regarding the runner tagging and scoring from third, and if he crossed the plate before Edman was tagged out, the run would have counted.

Weird play.

Rick

jayshum 10-15-2025 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlevy (Post 2544184)
The runner from first (Edman) had actually touched second base before retreating back to first, therefore while he could be put out because 2 runners couldn't both occupy first base, the force was no longer in play for him. There is no rule against him going back to first (except it was already occupied by the batter (Muncy). So only Smith (the runner from second) could be forced out, since he never touched third base. It then becomes a timing play regarding the runner tagging and scoring from third, and if he crossed the plate before Edman was tagged out, the run would have counted.

Weird play.

Rick

Interesting. I didn't realize Edman had touched second base then went back to first. In that case, isn't he entitled to first base so it's actually Muncy, the batter, who would have to have been tug out? Either way, the run would have scored before either was tug out on first.

bk400 10-16-2025 08:01 PM

I love seeing Roki Sasaki come back and do well. What a great story.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/...unami-tragedy/

BobbyStrawberry 10-16-2025 08:05 PM

What a disappointment this NLCS has been. I picked the Dodgers to win, but I thought it would at least be competitive.

bk400 10-16-2025 08:49 PM

The ALCS is interesting. You can almost feel the Blue Jays going home up 3-2.

BobbyStrawberry 10-16-2025 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2544553)
The ALCS is interesting. You can almost feel the Blue Jays going home up 3-2.

Yes I'm enjoying this series (despite having to hear John Smoltz)

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-16-2025 09:08 PM

I wish they'd let Kershaw start game 4. If he blows it it's no big deal, but c'mon, let him go out with a chance to get a big postseason win.

bk400 10-16-2025 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2544557)
I wish they'd let Kershaw start game 4. If he blows it it's no big deal, but c'mon, let him go out with a chance to get a big postseason win.

Dave Roberts, he of 0-3 Red Sox fame, would never do that. I could see him putting Kershaw in to finish the clinching game on the mound, at home, if it is a blowout. That might even be cooler for Dodgers fans.

bk400 10-17-2025 07:02 PM

Forget the Brewers. Alejandro Kirk is the victory for the Everyman. Loved watching him score from second just now.

(Five minutes later: The commentators just said that he's the slowest runner in the MLB and it was the first time he's scored from second on a single all year.)

bk400 10-17-2025 08:59 PM

Holy J-sus, Shohei.

bk400 10-17-2025 09:46 PM

This is the greatest postseason performance ever. Shohei Ohtani.

BobbyStrawberry 10-17-2025 09:58 PM

He's pretty good.

Beercan collector 10-17-2025 11:16 PM

It’s like watching a cartoon, what the hell

jb217676 10-20-2025 07:00 AM

My son and I are going to game 7 at the Dome tonight! Go Jays!!!
Jeff

CollectingAmericasPastime 10-20-2025 07:38 AM

Good luck! Whatever the outcome, enjoy the memories with your son. Playoff Games with your kids are special, special Game 7s.

SyrNy1960 10-20-2025 08:32 AM

Let’s Go Seattle!

Balticfox 10-20-2025 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2545211)
My son and I are going to game 7 at the Dome tonight!

Are they having another $1 hot dog promotion?

:confused:

In any event you'll have to sneak in your own Cracker Jack to complete the experience.

;)

samosa4u 10-20-2025 11:58 AM

Canada vs. US in the World Seies, baby !!! Come on, Jays !!! Make it happen !!

Balticfox 10-20-2025 02:10 PM

Canada my sweet ass. The Toronto Blue Jays are nothing but a bunch of imports. They're as American as the stars and stripes with a side order of salsa. I'll embrace them as my Canadian team the day they start a Canadian majority on the field - which I understand will be a cold day in hell.

I've actually actively resented how Torontonians have embraced the Blue Jays as their team since the late 1980's. The same Torontonians who now claim to be part of the "Canada first" contingent are the very same Torontonians who embraced the NFL instead of the Argonauts years ago and bought into the "world class city" mantra which merely meant we here in Toronto harbour the conceit that we're so much more "sophisticated" than you Winnipeggers or Edmontonians. :rolleyes: But it was really nothing but a desperate attempt to be noticed by the Yanks and the rest of the world. Well screw those pathetic Canadians (particularly the ones with bumper stickers saying "My Canada includes Florida"). I care not what anybody else thinks of me or Canada.

:mad:

That being said I do prefer the Blue Jays to those West Coast Mariners. But no, it's not about Canadian nationalism. It's not about us versus them.

:)

BobbyStrawberry 10-20-2025 08:05 PM

One thing I just learned about the Jays is that Canadians (at least some of them) get to watch the playoff with the home broadcasting crew. That is so cool and I wish we had that option here in the US. John Smoltz is so terrible that I end up muting the game a lot of the time.

Snapolit1 10-20-2025 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2545385)
One thing I just learned about the Jays is that Canadians (at least some of them) get to watch the playoff with the home broadcasting crew. That is so cool and I wish we had that option here in the US. John Smoltz is so terrible that I end up muting the game a lot of the time.

Smoltz never stops talking.

BobbyStrawberry 10-20-2025 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2545399)
Smoltz never stops talking.

It's amazing. You would think after years of doing this he might want to learn sports broadcasting 101 but I guess not.

bk400 10-20-2025 09:10 PM

There's something very pedantic about Smoltz's style. I much prefer Ron Darling. Orel Hershisher is a bit of a Dodger homer, but he's good also with his analysis.

BobbyStrawberry 10-20-2025 10:08 PM

What a comeback and what a season for the Blue Jays. I really hope they can give the Dodgers a series.

bk400 10-20-2025 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2545410)
What a comeback and what a season for the Blue Jays. I really hope they can give the Dodgers a series.

Well, Springer will probably pass on the dark arts that he learned with the Astros, so the Jays got that going for them.

I'll be rooting for the Dodgers.

jb217676 10-21-2025 06:50 AM

Great game we were at last night! Happy Seattle lost, even better it was Springer that drove the final nail! After the way the horrible Seattle fans booed Springer after he got hit in the knee, he deserved revenge!

bk400 10-21-2025 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2545431)
Great game we were at last night! Happy Seattle lost, even better it was Springer that drove the final nail! After the way the horrible Seattle fans booed Springer after he got hit in the knee, he deserved revenge!

That must have been an AWESOME game to attend last night. Springer, even though he's a cheater, is the most dangerous player in the playoffs. That man is clutch.

jb217676 10-21-2025 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2545432)
That must have been an AWESOME game to attend last night. Springer, even though he's a cheater, is the most dangerous player in the playoffs. That man is clutch.

If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'

bk400 10-21-2025 07:18 AM

My predictions for the WS:

1) Ohtani will do very well on the mound. But he will NOT come through in clutch moments at the plate.

2) Mookie Betts will be the WS MVP

3) Vlad is going to be silenced by Dodgers pitching. His final line will look something like 2 for 28 with 8 strikeouts.

4) Springer will win at least one game with a clutch at bat, but Roki will strike him out in the last inning for the WS win.

CollectingAmericasPastime 10-21-2025 08:18 AM

Not sure if I want the Toronto Guardians to win to stick it to the Dodgers/MLB offices, or if I want to fast track the correction in baseball by having the Dodgers repeat.

bk400 10-21-2025 08:29 AM

I don't understand why people hate the teams that spend money, like the Dodgers. All the owners can afford to pay up for a competitive team. Every single one of them. Some see their team as a reflection of the city and pay up to win (and get the prestige that comes with winning), while others manage the team as if it were a convenience store chain. Why are we rewarding the convenience store chain owners like Arte Moreno and Bob Nutting, as opposed to guys like Mark Walter and Stevie Cohen?

For me, I'd love to see the Dodgers wipe the floor with the Jays so that small market teams stop bitching and moaning and starting spending money to compete.

ClementeFanOh 10-21-2025 08:52 AM

World Series
 
Well, we have a Series. Pulling for Toronto, which means LA will win:). Trent King

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2545451)
I don't understand why people hate the teams that spend money, like the Dodgers. All the owners can afford to pay up for a competitive team. Every single one of them. Some see their team as a reflection of the city and pay up to win (and get the prestige that comes with winning), while others manage the team as if it were a convenience store chain. Why are we rewarding the convenience store chain owners like Arte Moreno and Bob Nutting, as opposed to guys like Mark Walter and Stevie Cohen?

For me, I'd love to see the Dodgers wipe the floor with the Jays so that small market teams stop bitching and moaning and starting spending money to compete.

+1000. If I hear any more about how "we need a salary cap in baseball" my head is going to explode. Spend some money or sell the team to someone who will.

jb217676 10-21-2025 11:03 AM

Do you all think any of the small market US teams would ever move to Canada? I was thinking Pittsburgh to Montreal; Seattle to Vancouver; Tampa to Toronto.

Toronto is like New York, we could support two teams easily. Seattle, it's mostly Canadians going to the games anyways. Montreal Pirates just sounds cool.

All of these teams would spend big bucks to compete with the Jays!

Balticfox 10-21-2025 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060 (Post 2545450)
Not sure if I want the Toronto Guardians to win to stick it to the Dodgers/MLB offices....

Am I not getting a point you're trying to make here or...?

:confused:

jb217676 10-21-2025 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545483)
Am I not getting a point you're trying to make here or...?

:confused:

He's making fun of the Cleveland Connection (Shapiro & Atkins)

samosa4u 10-21-2025 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545294)
Canada my sweet ass. The Toronto Blue Jays are nothing but a bunch of imports. They're as American as the stars and stripes with a side order of salsa. I'll embrace them as my Canadian team the day they start a Canadian majority on the field - which I understand will be a cold day in hell.

I've actually actively resented how Torontonians have embraced the Blue Jays as their team since the late 1980's. The same Torontonians who now claim to be part of the "Canada first" contingent are the very same Torontonians who embraced the NFL instead of the Argonauts years ago and bought into the "world class city" mantra which merely meant we here in Toronto harbour the conceit that we're so much more "sophisticated" than you Winnipeggers or Edmontonians. :rolleyes: But it was really nothing but a desperate attempt to be noticed by the Yanks and the rest of the world. Well screw those pathetic Canadians (particularly the ones with bumper stickers saying "My Canada includes Florida"). I care not what anybody else thinks of me or Canada.

:mad:

That being said I do prefer the Blue Jays to those West Coast Mariners. But no, it's not about Canadian nationalism. It's not about us versus them.

:)

I don't agree with your logic. The Blue Jays are owned by Rogers Communications, a Canadian company, and where do you think they get their money from? From Canadians! This is our team! The whole country is going to be watching the World Series now.

Shohei, we're coming for you !!

jb217676 10-21-2025 12:25 PM

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (born in Montreal) is just as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky (maybe more these days!)

samosa4u 10-21-2025 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2545495)
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (born in Montreal) is just as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky (maybe more these days!)

Haha!! Also, Auston Matthews is an American and he's the greatest goal scorer in Leafs history!

Beercan collector 10-21-2025 02:39 PM

If Toronto used only Canadian players, not only would they get crushed they probably couldn’t even field a team . There’s Vladimir and ... being a cardinal fan I remember Tyler O’Neill was Canadian and .. that’s about it.
Maybe bring Larry Walker and Joey Votto out of retirement

Beercan collector 10-21-2025 02:40 PM

Ooooh Freddie Freeman’s parents are Canadian - well there’s that, Toronto can get beat by somebody that’s kind of Canadian

BioCRN 10-21-2025 03:11 PM

Jameson Taillon would slot into the rotation...Mike Soroka, maybe...

They would have Owen Caissie in the prospect pipeline.

The Cubs have had and have an odd amount of Canadians on their team...redheads, too.

Also, Josh Naylor did his Canadian duty helping TOR turn an awkward double play for them last night.

Beercan collector 10-21-2025 04:10 PM

Wonderful Taillon and Naylor are good additions.,
So far we got a pitcher and two first baseman.
Plus a couple partial players .. not bad
Edit: And can bring Votto back to help at first base

bk400 10-21-2025 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 2545493)
I don't agree with your logic. The Blue Jays are owned by Rogers Communications, a Canadian company, and where do you think they get their money from? From Canadians! This is our team! The whole country is going to be watching the World Series now.

Shohei, we're coming for you !!

After pitching in Philly, going to Toronto will be like playing at home for Shohei!

Peter_Spaeth 10-21-2025 09:05 PM

Toronto in 6.

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2545571)
Toronto in 6.

Is this a wish or a prediction?

Balticfox 10-21-2025 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2545467)
Quote:

Originally Posted by bk400 (Post 2545451)
For me, I'd love to see the Dodgers wipe the floor with the Jays so that small market teams stop bitching and moaning and starting spending money to compete.

+1000. If I hear any more about how "we need a salary cap in baseball" my head is going to explode. Spend some money or sell the team to someone who will.

You've got it backward . If the Dodgers who have the second highest (or highest depending on your accounting) payroll in MLB repeat as World Series champions, the bitching and moaning about the rich teams buying championships will just increase.

But the Toronto Blue Jays aren't exactly a tight fisted team either. Their payroll is the fifth highest.

:(

Balticfox 10-21-2025 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 2545473)
Do you all think any of the small market US teams would ever move to Canada? I was thinking Pittsburgh to Montreal; Seattle to Vancouver; Tampa to Toronto.

I don't like any of those. How about these instead?

1) Vancouver Devil Rays
2) Ottawa Nationals
3) Calgary Rockies
4) Edmonton (Forest) Rangers

I'd rename them all though.

:confused:

bk400 10-21-2025 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545582)
You've got it backward . If the Dodgers who have the secon highest (or highest depending on your accounting) payroll in MLB repeat as World Series champions, the bitching and moaning about the rich teams buying championships will just increase.

The Toronto Blue Jays aren't exactly a tight fisted team either. Their payroll is the fifth highest.

:(

I guess you're right about the bitching and moaning. I wonder how Angels fans and Pirates fans seem fine about their owners making assloads of money while fielding losers every single season.

And it's not even like the Jets and the New York Football Giants where the organizations spend money but still suck. Those are incompetent organizations. It's almost like it's the business model of the Angels and the Pirates to suck to the point just above where fans can still take it. They're not incompetent organizations at all. If I were a fan of those teams, I'd be insulted that the owner takes me for such a chump.

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545582)
You've got it backward . If the Dodgers who have the second highest (or highest depending on your accounting) payroll in MLB repeat as World Series champions, the bitching and moaning about the rich teams buying championships will just increase.

What is it you think I have backward? I know the complaining will increase. My point is that it's a ridiculous complaint.

Balticfox 10-21-2025 11:11 PM

Ridiculous? How?

Is it ridiculous for a business owner to treat his business as a business as opposed to operating it for the community in the public interest?

And don't you think that a less competitive "playing field" is not in MLB's best interests? MLB 's share of the pro sports market does seem to have dwindled in the last 75 years.

:confused:

BobbyStrawberry 10-21-2025 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545600)
Ridiculous? How?

Is it ridiculous for a business owner to treat his business as a business as opposed to operating it for the community in the public interest?

I'm not sure what you're talking about here, or how you got there from my comment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2545600)
And don't you think that a less competitive "playing field" is not in MLB's best interests? MLB 's share of the pro sports market does seem to have dwindled in the last 75 years.

:confused:

Owning an MLB team is a license to print money. All the owners and the league overall are in great financial shape. The cheapskate owners would love a salary cap because they, at least in some cases, would get to pay players less than what they're worth.

Balticfox 10-21-2025 11:41 PM

If there appears to be a correlation between rich teams and championship teams, how is such a complaint "ridiculous"? What's wrong with more competitive balance? Does that not make a sport more rather than less interesting?

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