Not that I ever would, but if I were to consign a very valuable card or cards to Goldin, I'd first require Goldin to provide me with a copy of their insurance policy.

I've had consignors ask to see my policy.

Especially if they seem likely to ship, in willy-nilly fashion, the card(s) to a Best Western Plus.

Brian

I guarantee they wouldn't be personally offended by the request. :cry:

Can I ask for their bank statements too? Will Ken send me information about his home value?

Proof that consignor funds are held in escrow would I think be more relevant and equivalent.

Please look up sarcasm in your dictionary.

Would it be sufficient if we tell/show them the family name on some college buildings ? :D

Apparently you didn't get the sarcasm in my response.

As an added bonus, there was a subtle cultural reference from recent events thrown in, because I'm sick that way.

You can ask for whatever you want. They may decline, as you have the right to do. But they won't be personally offended.

You might be surprised. Some people get their dander up pretty quick.

Totally understandable. You don't hand over the Carl Fryslinger collection without doing due diligence.

I've noticed. :cry:

Not sure if you're being snarky but Carl was a personal friend who approached me when he got his terminal diagnosis. He was well-known to our original live auction crowd, so I wanted them to know which items were his. Plus due to the donation in his name that we are making to the PA Food Bank we needed to set those items apart in the titles. His is not one of the larger consignments we have taken on, but regardless of the value of a collection to the rest of the world it means the world to the consignor and I try to be understanding.

Give it a rest Ohio, if you want to pass out your financial information to some AH so you can spend $10,100 like a two bit whore on quarter night that's up to you but don't denigrate many collectors here who don't buy into that, I'd ask you to have a little respect but clearly you're lacking in that dept.

Sometimes we find ourselves in these playground shitshow threads but this is a collectors sub which I'm way more interested in.
That being said, I'd be interested in you posting your favorite top 5 cards in your collection. I'd rather see what you're interested in as a collector and form an opinion of you based on that.

Not a dick measuring contest but there are a whole bunch of old school well endowed collectors who choose not to weigh in on dumb threads like this that defend some "hey, it's just a rule to protect corporate profits" so get in line and put on you grey jumpsuit.

No thanks Brother.

I'd rather know you by your collection than your insults.

Did he start the thread? Looks like he chimed in first in post #21. I do not take his words as "insults" at all.

I respect your opinion, do you think thre is room for your boy to stop insulting people on this sub?

I have never had to provide bank statements to buy a car or get a credit card. They pull your credit report to see that you pay on time. My local bank even gave me a home mortgage without needing income verification. I had been with them for several years and they didn't sell their mortgages.

Every auction house I have registered for has requested hobby references, similar to running a credit report. I have never been given a credit limit. I have spent over 10k with most of them. I have spent over 100k with one. If you have a history of paying for what you win, shouldn't that be enough?

I haven't insulted anyone. I've merely questioned how it is personally insulting. I've repeatedly said you don't have to like it. In fact, I don't like it. But I'm not personally insulted, and it makes no sense to be. The fact that you take what I've said as an insult only drives the point home that you clearly tend to take personally those things that are not personal attacks at all.

If you are truly interested in what I collect, I share it a little at a time. I'm currently sharing pieces of my Larkin collection in Todeen's thread over on the modern board. I collect Cincinnati Reds, and Cincinnati Reds only. I collect all eras of Reds, from modern players to pre-war Reds. I have complete runs of Ted Kluszewski, Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Johnny Bench, Tom Seaver, Ken Griffey Jr, Joey Votto, and Scott Rolen. Additionally, my main PC is Barry Larkin. I am currently working on getting every hall of famer to ever play or manage the Reds pictured on cards wearing Reds uniform. As I draw near to completion of that project, I hope to employ the help of experts here in identifying cards I may have overlooked. For pre-war HOF, tracking down sets can be hard, and I have found some guys who don't appear to have ever been pictured as a Red (Christy Mathewson, for example). If you want to see a lot of what I share, you can see it on my Instagram @Redlegs_Collector.

I love the hobby and making friends who are like minded collectors. I never sell cards. Once they enter my collection, they are there to stay. I have many close friends in the hobby and on these message boards and facebook groups. Without them, my collection wouldn't be what it is. I'm not here trying to insult anyone. I was merely trying to make people see how it isn't personal and they shouldn't take it that way. It's a miserable way to live to feel personally attacked by every little thing, even when it's not personal at all. If anyone can read this thread and realize they may be overreacting, it would be a good thing. No ill intent intended at all. I am really sorry you took offense. You have just been so defensive with your position, responses might feel directed at you.

I don't own an auction house, and don't have to justify it to you. Why don't you ask Sotheby's or Christie's why they do it.

Again, I'm not judging whether it's appropriate or necessary for them to do it. You and others have repeatedly missed my point. I am not an auction house and don't sit in their board room with their financials and lawyers discussing the merits of the decision to request income verification. They may or may not have good reason for it. That's irrelevant. My point is, and always has been, even if you disagree with it, or don't want to do it, it is NOT a personal attack, and taking it as a personal insult is objectivity unreasonable.

Tempest in a teapot at this point, guys. Ken's already come in and provided a very reasonable work-around.

The NPB thing is real and it is a problem. i've done some collections work for some AHs and going after renegging bidders is chasing gambling addicts. You pretty quickly find out that they love the rush of the win but are in way over their heads, have atrocious credit, and little to nothing by way of recoverable assets. It is also incredibly inconvenient for a business to have a sale blown up by a deadbeat.

Here's Mathewson in a Reds uniform (Hal Chase too):


https://live.staticflickr.com/4149/5...d42e4316_b.jpg

Thanks for that. I was researching more traditional cards, as I don't usually collect items like this team photo. But I think, I'll make an exception and put it on the list. I appreciate it. I'll probably make a post in the future with my list to see what I've missed. I'm sure there are some obscure issues I've passed over.

I think a real photo postcard may be the closest you’ll find to a “card” with Matty in a Reds uniform. And this one may be the only one.

As for Chase, somehow he managed to have a couple cards as a Red but he did play with them for a few years.

ETA: That looks like Ty Cobb’s doppelgänger in the bottom left of the PC.