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D. Bergin 10-16-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2467926)
How do you go from 4 PPG to the NBA?

He was a 5 Star High School recruit and McDonald's All-American who suffered a serious cardiac event leading into his only season in college, which obviously set him back on his year in college.

Types of players like this get drafted all the time in the NBA, without ever even seeing the floor in college basketball.

Listen, nobody is claiming he would have gotten drafted without Lebron as his daddy. Just that it's not that big a deal...especially where he got drafted. 2nd rounders are either "projects" or shots in the dark to begin with. Sure, there's diamonds in the rough that emerge on occasion, but odds wise, that's the obvious exception, and not the rule.

Just scanning over Kwame Browns draft class in 2001 (which to be fair to Kwame, was a terrible class outside of Pau Gasol and Tony Parker), more then 90% of 2nd rounders (and a decent % of 1st rounders), either never saw the floor, or were below replacement level players (VORP) during their mostly short careers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com.../NBA_2001.html

rats60 10-16-2024 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2467922)
Do you seriously think we'd be talking about this if Bronny was named Smith?

That is exactly my point. Other players in his position are allowed to put their name in the draft and get picked at the end of the 2nd round and no one complains about them chasing their dream.

Beercan collector 10-16-2024 05:17 PM

No harm
He’s getting his chance to prove in quick dramatic fashion he does not belong in the league .

Peter_Spaeth 10-16-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 2468015)
That is exactly my point. Other players in his position are allowed to put their name in the draft and get picked at the end of the 2nd round and no one complains about them chasing their dream.

I may not have been clear. My point is that if he was not LeBron's son, he would not have been drafted in the second round or perhaps at all. And that's why we would not be talking about it.

rats60 10-17-2024 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2468070)
I may not have been clear. My point is that if he was not LeBron's son, he would not have been drafted in the second round or perhaps at all. And that's why we would not be talking about it.

Daniel Orton averaged 3.4 PPG and 3.3 RPG at Kentucky as a Freshman and was drafted at pick 29 at the end of the first round.
He played 51 games in the NBA averaging 2.8 PPG and 2.5 RPG. People weren't upset that he chased his NBA dream. Why the hate for Bronny?

As was pointed out above, since Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant, plenty of high school then freshmen college players are drafted on their potential and there are plenty who don't make it. Bronny being another one is no big deal, but people are trying to make it one.

packs 10-17-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2468070)
I may not have been clear. My point is that if he was not LeBron's son, he would not have been drafted in the second round or perhaps at all. And that's why we would not be talking about it.

Nobody drafted Michael Jordan's kids.

Peter_Spaeth 10-17-2024 06:17 PM

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/4...couting-report

jayshum 10-23-2024 06:24 AM

Bronny played 3 minutes in the Lakers season opening win so he played with LeBron. He's still waiting to score his first NBA points after 0-2 shooting.

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-23-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2467940)
Like the bad joke from Mary Poppins.
I know a man with a wooden leg named Smith.
Really? What's the name of his other leg?

I knew a woman who tap danced on her left leg and toe danced on her right leg. Between the two she made a living...

Aquarian Sports Cards 10-23-2024 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2469584)
Bronny played 3 minutes in the Lakers season opening win so he played with LeBron. He's still waiting to score his first NBA points after 0-2 shooting.

Maybe now that it's out of the way they'll send him back to the D league where he MIGHT belong.

Shoeless Moe 10-23-2024 09:26 AM

It's rare when you are watching a game/sport and you get to see the worst player in the league playing and you can be like "hey that is thee worst player in the league."

Now sure you may get mad at a player on your team and be like "he sucks", and maybe he does, or maybe you are just mad your team is losing, or he's just having a bad game or playing poorly for a long period of time. So he's a bad player, but is he really the worst player in the league?

Here you truly can say "I'm watching the worst player in the league play right now." I don't know if that has ever been done before.

Congrats to the worst player in the league making his debut.

Peter_Spaeth 10-23-2024 11:56 AM

Barkley tells it like it is, not like the apologists and spinners want it to be.

Barkley then offered his assessment of the young player, who averaged 4.2 points and 1.7 rebounds per game over six preseason games.

“I think he should be in the G League,” Barkley said. “He's not ready to play in the NBA right now. He should be in the G League, because he's not ready to play in the NBA first and foremost.”

KJA 10-25-2024 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2448796)
I guess it's possible he could develop? But right now it looks like he's just another of the countless examples of there being a world of difference between even a really top notch high school player and having the talent level to play in the NBA.

How's his defense? Maybe he can develop into a lockdown defender and stick around the league.

Or just sticks around as long as Lebron is in the league and is just a guy at the end of bench like the Bucks had been doing with Thanasis Antetokounmpo for the past 4 seasons.

Peter_Spaeth 10-26-2024 10:04 AM

Bronny did not play in last night's game.

BobbyStrawberry 10-26-2024 10:17 AM

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...gue-split-trip

sports-cards-forever 11-08-2024 07:33 AM

Bronny is a great story...but he is no Griffey Jr. Bronny needs alot more experience, but may be a qualify NBA player one day, but unlikely to be a star.

Snapolit1 11-08-2024 05:49 PM

I will never forget where I was the night Bronny and LeBron took the floor together.


Wait, what night was that?


Biggest sports thrill I've had since Pete Rose, Jr. got a few ABs in 1997.

Snapolit1 11-08-2024 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2468096)
Nobody drafted Michael Jordan's kids.

Maybe Jordan didn't ask.

Peter_Spaeth 11-08-2024 06:29 PM

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The Los Angeles Lakers have assigned rookie guard Bronny James to the South Bay Lakers, their G-League affiliate. He will reportedly be on L.A.’s roster Friday against the Sixers, but will join South Bay on Saturday, according to NBA insider Shams Charania.

Bronny will likely only play home games for the South Bay Lakers and may regularly switch between the NBA and G-League rosters.

The 20-year-old rookie has made four appearances for the Lakers this season, mostly in the last few minutes of blowout games. He’s averaging 1.0 point, 0.3 rebounds and 0.5 assists per game in 3.3 minutes.

Peter_Spaeth 11-08-2024 06:32 PM

Act two to follow?

https://ballexclusives.com/2024/11/0...ger-son-bryce/

BobbyStrawberry 11-08-2024 06:53 PM

He's supposed to be the better one.

Peter_Spaeth 11-08-2024 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2473671)
He's supposed to be the better one.

I'm sure Jeannie will do whatever he wants.

Beercan collector 11-08-2024 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2473661)

I bet they win a championship together ,
All three on the floor together as time runs out , I can see it now

BobbyStrawberry 11-08-2024 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2473673)
I'm sure Jeannie will do whatever he wants.

For sure.

Peter_Spaeth 11-24-2024 10:27 PM

Where is Bronny? Hasn't played in weeks. So far, 2.7 minutes and 2 points, total.

frankbmd 11-25-2024 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2476946)
Where is Bronny? Hasn't played in weeks. So far, 2.7 minutes and 2 points, total.

Perhaps he needs a paternal "tush push".:D

Snapolit1 11-25-2024 09:49 AM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nb...es-Bronny.html

Peter_Spaeth 11-25-2024 12:47 PM

I hope this young man is holding himself together psychologically. It must be somewhat strange, knowing your father is the greatest or second greatest player ever to walk on a floor, while you (at best) are a marginal bench player and with at least half the world thinking you're only there at all because they're doing your dad a favor.

BobbyStrawberry 11-25-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2477034)
I hope this young man is holding himself together psychologically. It must be somewhat strange, knowing your father is the greatest or second greatest player ever to walk on a floor, while you (at best) are a marginal bench player and with at least half the world thinking you're only there at all because they're doing your dad a favor.

I don't even think he's a marginal bench player....would he even be getting minutes on a top-25 D1 college team right now?

Honestly even he has to know that's the reason he was drafted. My guess is he's fine. He's being coddled by the team and will have very chance to improve, at least as long as his dad is on the team.

packs 11-27-2024 11:25 AM

Chris Livingston was the final pick of the 2023 draft. He averaged 6 points a game at Kentucky and 1.2 points per game for the Bucks in 2023. he has appeared in 2 games this year and played 2 total minutes.

Peter_Spaeth 11-27-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2477394)
Chris Livingston was the final pick of the 2023 draft. He averaged 6 points a game at Kentucky and 1.2 points per game for the Bucks in 2023. he has appeared in 2 games this year and played 2 total minutes.

A rivalry in the making. :)

D. Bergin 11-27-2024 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2477394)
Chris Livingston was the final pick of the 2023 draft. He averaged 6 points a game at Kentucky and 1.2 points per game for the Bucks in 2023. he has appeared in 2 games this year and played 2 total minutes.


Of the 28 2nd round picks in the 2022 draft. 17 of them have played less then 500 minutes in their entire careers up to this point. Go back another year to the 2021 draft. 13 of 30 picks have played less then 500 minutes in their careers.

It's a throwaway pick for most teams.

packs 11-27-2024 03:35 PM

Totally. That’s why I’m not really buying into this idea that Bronny wasn’t worthy of being picked last. Look at who else gets picked last. This narrative of nepotism rings true because his dad is on the team but I’m not really convinced there was another player deprived of a dream or any of the other ideas related to Bronny being that much more inferior a player than who is typically picked in his place.

Peter_Spaeth 01-02-2025 07:55 PM

2 points total for Bronny to date. Here's the odd thing -- he has only played in TWO G League games. What is going on?

BobbyStrawberry 01-02-2025 08:38 PM

It looks like the team has only played two regular season games and he's averaging 15/4/4 in those two games.

Peter_Spaeth 01-02-2025 09:22 PM

Oh so season has not really started yet. I think they should just let him play in G league the rest of the season to maximize his development.

BobbyStrawberry 01-02-2025 10:14 PM

I agree, I'd be surprised if they don't do that.

jayshum 01-03-2025 06:38 AM

It looks like games started in November with something called the Tip-Off Tournament. The standings for that show each team playing 16 games. Now it looks like the regular season has started and so far, teams have only played a few games in that.

Bronny played in 7 games in the Tip Off Tournament.

https://stats.gleague.nba.com/player...nType=Showcase

D. Bergin 01-03-2025 07:46 AM

Yeah,

7 games credited so far on Basketball Reference:

G-League stats below.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...amesbr01d.html

D. Bergin 01-03-2025 07:50 AM

He did have a 30 point game on December 12th on 13-23 Shooting, so he shows flashes every once in awhile. Still needs lots of seasoning.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...412120VAL.html

jayshum 01-05-2025 01:24 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nba/...-hawks-2009726

Peter_Spaeth 01-05-2025 04:02 PM

And now, Bryce.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/oth...an/ar-AA1wWgrL

Maybe the Lakers can draft him too as a freshman. WTF, it's only two roster spots, still 10 left. Go for it, Jeanie.

D. Bergin 02-23-2025 04:33 PM

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Just thought I'd throw this up there. Seems he's doing just fine with his G-League minutes.

Sure, this means nothing in the NBA landscape, but historically he's doing just fine for a bottom of the 2nd round pick, for those overly concerned about the "meritocracy" of the NBA.

Bored5000 02-23-2025 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2498779)
Just thought I'd throw this up there. Seems he's doing just fine with his G-League minutes.

Sure, this means nothing in the NBA landscape, but historically he's doing just fine for a bottom of the 2nd round pick, for those overly concerned about the "meritocracy" of the NBA.

Who are some other guys selected in the NBA draft based on 4.8 PPG, 2.8 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game in college?

D. Bergin 02-23-2025 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 2498856)
Who are some other guys selected in the NBA draft based on 4.8 PPG, 2.8 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game in college?

Examples have already been given in this thread. Plus, there’s been hundreds of fellas drafted who never played a single game of college ball.

packs 02-24-2025 02:33 PM

Hugo Besson was the final pick of the 2022 draft. He was selected 57th overall. Milwaukee and the Heat held the 58th and 59th picks that year and both teams declined to draft anyone.

Hugo Besson is 23 years old and has never appeared in an NBA or G League game. He also has the distinction of being traded three times since he was drafted.

But yeah, Bronny was a wasted pick....


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