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Snowman 04-12-2024 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher (Post 2426340)
Why would I not be surprised that somewhere soon down the road that it becomes a requirement in order to list a sports or non-sports card on eBay that it must be graded by PSA or SGC....


Patrick

Would this not result in a lawsuit that ebay would surely lose? As I've stated many times, I don't know s#!t about the law, but I suspect this wouldn't be a wise decision on their part?

Lorewalker 04-12-2024 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2426357)
The rumor was that PSA and Goldin weren't getting along and that Collectors was looking to offload Goldin. The only thing I predicted was that ebay would be the buyer. I don't know of anyone else that was also predicting it would be ebay, though surely I couldn't have been alone on that prediction. But I was certainly laughed at for voicing it at the time.

Not sure when you got the vision which permitted you to predict such a far fetched thing but I spoke with someone yesterday, who is a pretty big deal in the hobby (who is not a party to the partnership), and they had known about it for several months. Maybe they knew about it from you!:D

Peter_Spaeth 04-12-2024 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2426359)
Would this not result in a lawsuit that ebay would surely lose? As I've stated many times, I don't know s#!t about the law, but I suspect this wouldn't be a wise decision on their part?

The legality of "tying" arrangements (very broadly speaking, if you want A, you must also buy B) and similar "restraints of trade" typically depends on how one defines the relevant market and what the defendant's market share is. Here, I would think ebay has a large share however you plausibly define the relevant market -- if I'm looking to self-list a card, where else do I go? I suppose one could argue there are lots of venues to sell if you count consigning as an option, but even taking them all into account I would think ebay's share is quite substantial.

Exhibitman 04-13-2024 07:38 AM

My blather on the deal:

https://open.substack.com/pub/adamst...meOnShare=true

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-13-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2426446)

I see no mention of dealers at fanfest and can find no information about purchasing space, so I don't think it's a show in the traditional sense and people looking to buy something other than brand new product might be in for a bit of a disappointment.

Exhibitman 04-13-2024 09:33 AM

I don't expect to buy there. I am trying to get press credentials and cover the show as a reporter instead. As a collector, I'll head to White Plains instead on Friday for the East Coast National.

chalupacollects 04-13-2024 09:43 AM

Anyone I hear that this will be good for the hobby I see higher prices of something for somebody…

As for tax avoidances/evasion with the vaults, that can all go away if Biden is re-elected and he gets his wish of taxing unrealized capital gains on personal property.


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Bigdaddy 04-13-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2425895)
The main/primary reason PWCC’s vault works is state sales tax avoidance. Plain and simple. Take the tax savings out of the equation and I doubt vaults gain traction

Surely another factor in providing a vault is to take advantage/possession of abandoned cards. Sort of like abandoned storage units, which we see all the time. Most certainly the percentage of such cards is not 0%.


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