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Bpm0014 02-14-2024 09:07 PM

It’s peculiar that none of you wanted to shut down the first thread on the main page where the majority of posters were convinced that it was the same guys who beat up Jussie Smollett that desecrated the Jackie Robinson statue and if you doubted them you needed to be sent to an indoctrination re-education camp.

Bingo. Exactly.

BobbyStrawberry 02-14-2024 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by campyfan39 (Post 2413019)
Uhhh.... I'll give you my entire collection if you find me saying that on this thread or anywhere.
Maybe you got me mixed up with someone else?

btw I agree with both of your sentiments. There is racism going around (in many directions) and he is a race-baiting asshole.

What a miserable, hateful piece of gärbage you are.

Snowman 02-14-2024 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2412811)
Most Americans reading about the theft and desecration of a statue of a civil rights icon will consider the possibility that hate and racism were a motive. Only those sequestering themselves in the far-right echo chamber will see that as odd, or as one poster suggested, deserving of an apology. (Lol!)

I'm not sure that's true. There was a Rasmussen poll a few years back which showed that ~60% of Americans viewed Jackie Robinson favorably, 4% didn't like him, and 36% didn't know who he was. That's a 9 to 1 ratio of the population that doesn't know who he is vs those who don't like him. If statues are stolen at random by people who either have no clue who he was or who despise him, and never stolen by those who look up to him, then the odds were pretty heavily in favor of the theft having nothing to do with race.

Peter_Spaeth 02-14-2024 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2412912)
I get the feeling you have a lot of fiscal conservative/social liberal middle of the road folks here with a lot of life experience that are fed up with the progressive left and extreme right.

A group essentially disenfranchised these days.

hammertime 02-15-2024 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 2412810)
Why do people seem so angry at the people who thought this might be race-related? Is it really that far fetched? And why are you treating this as such a victory? Kinda pathetic if you ask me.

If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

ALBB 02-15-2024 05:31 AM

statue
 
I dont want to keep seeing/ reading these posts.....yet I keep seeing/ reading these posts

Republicaninmass 02-15-2024 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2412912)
I get the feeling you have a lot of fiscal conservative/social liberal middle of the road folks here with a lot of life experience that are fed up with the progressive left and extreme right.



You running? I'll cast my vote now!

Cliff Bowman 02-15-2024 06:33 AM

I cannot comprehend it but I have come to the conclusion that many of those on the other side feed off of and get a high similar to meth or crack from what they perceive as racist incidents that fit their criteria and use them to lash out against those that they hate. When they almost always turn out to be false flags they then pretend like it never happened and just wait patiently for the next opportunity.

campyfan39 02-15-2024 06:43 AM

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I am quite a content, blessed and joyous man. I don't hate a single person on this earth; even those who dislike or actively work against me. Enjoy your day Bobby, I will certainly enjoy mine.

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2413034)
What a miserable, hateful piece of gärbage you are.

As I type I am looking at one of the 4 copies I am blessed to own of my favorite card of my favorite player. And as Roy said "It's Good to Be Alive"

irv 02-15-2024 07:19 AM

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What a miserable, hateful piece of gärbage you are.

That's deep coming from you, the guy who lied to join the site, the guy who is the race baiting asshole, they guy who lashes out if ones opinion does not jive with his own, the guy who laughs and ridicules those who don't bow to the behest of their govt daddy, the guy who watches and believes what MSM spews to him and laughs at all other sources of info, the guy who believes in the climate crisis, Ukraine, Jan 6th, Russian collusion, maga bad, the vaccines are safe and effective, blm, antifa, the riots were mainly peaceful, or anything else his favorite party tells him to believe but thinks the rest of us, or those that don't toe the line like him are the brainwashed fools, not him.

bnorth 02-15-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2413107)
That's deep coming from you, the guy who lied to join the site, the guy who is the race baiting asshole, they guy who lashes out if ones opinion does not jive with his own, the guy who laughs and ridicules those who don't bow to the behest of their govt daddy, the guy who watches and believes what MSM spews to him and laughs at all other sources of info, the guy who believes in the climate crisis, Ukraine, Jan 6th, Russian collusion, maga bad, the vaccines are safe and effective, blm, antifa, the riots were mainly peaceful, or anything else his favorite party tells him to believe but thinks the rest of us, or those that don't toe the line like him are the brainwashed fools, not him.

Just to the bolded word. I recently started taking a supplement with MSM and Hyaluronic Acid. It is amazing for joint pain and I highly recommend it. The brand I take is Undefined Nutrition Recovery.:)

irv 02-15-2024 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2413115)
Just to the bolded word. I recently started taking a supplement with MSM and Hyaluronic Acid. It is amazing for joint pain and I highly recommend it. The brand I take is Undefined Nutrition Recovery.:)

Yes, Shrek. You're just like Bobby too. My apologies for not including you as well.

Bcwcardz 02-15-2024 08:24 AM

Shoot, I never knew anyone thought this was about race or political. What? I knew from the start this was about the metal. Here in Los Angeles there are so many street lights out because people steal the copper. They just busted some thieves stealing metal from cemeteries last night. Catalytic converter thieves have been rampant here for years. It’s all about the metal period.


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Kzoo 02-15-2024 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime (Post 2413081)
The problem, as I see it, is as a society 'The Mainstream Media has' shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

Andy...........Just a slight correction to your post as I'm removing the 'we've' and inserting the true instigator to many issues we face today. They're not true journalists or reporters, they're 'actors' reading a prepared script.

ChasingPaper 02-15-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime (Post 2413081)
If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

100% Its called information suppression if its not in favor of the narrative being pushed.

bnorth 02-15-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2413123)
Yes, Shrek. You're just like Bobby too. My apologies for not including you as well.

No problem, thanks for including me. I really enjoy reading your posts. They are amazing like Beavis and Butthead but without the intelligence and sophistication they bring.;):D

irv 02-15-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime (Post 2413081)
If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

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Originally Posted by Kzoo (Post 2413128)
Andy...........Just a slight correction to your post as I'm removing the 'we've' and inserting the true instigator to many issues we face today. They're not true journalists or reporters, they're 'actors' reading a prepared script.

The media is definitely the enemy of the people but one must not forget what party funds them too.

I'm glad to see, at least up here anyways, many are waking up, opening their eyes and realizing just how much our MSM is nothing but propaganda anymore.
The CBC/Bell Media, The Toronto Star, CTV News, Global News are all hurting with massive layoffs happening and more coming because viewership is way down.
I also believe CNN is now 3rd among the big 3 stateside?
Despite this, some still can't see nor understand why our evil Liberal govt's want censorship so bad and are trying to pass bills as we speak.
They can't see the govt doesn't want the truth getting out, for people to be informed, no, they can't see that the govt just wants their version of the truth and nothing else.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this how communist countries like China inform their citizens and control what they can and cannot read, see or hear?
Many, sadly, can't even see the similarities here nor the connection despite it staring them right in their faces. :(

nolemmings 02-15-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2413152)
No problem, thanks for including me. I really enjoy reading your posts. They are amazing like Beavis and Butthead but without the intelligence and sophistication they bring.;):D

delete (forgot it's Lent and I'm trying to be nice)

Republicaninmass 02-15-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2413155)
delete (forgot it's Lent and I'm trying to be nice)

Very Christian of you!

BobbyStrawberry 02-15-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime (Post 2413081)
If a person chooses to jump to conclusions without a shred of evidence, and then turns out to be wrong, they should be prepared to be called out for it IMHO. No one is being forced to speculate.

The problem, as I see it, is as a society we've shifted our focus from getting to the bottom of a situation, and figuring out the truth, to setting the narrative right out of the gate. And then often the truth comes along much later, and much quieter.

Proudly asserting from the beginning that there's no way this could be related to racial hate, as many in the troll brigade here did–also without a shred of evidence–is also jumping to a conclusion.

Why do you think law enforcement, without even being asked, felt the need to tell the press that "it doesn't appear at this time to be related to race"? The reason they did that is because most people following the story will naturally wonder if the crime was motivated by bigotry. Why some refuse to acknowledge that is obvious, but like they do, I'll refrain from saying the quiet part out loud. Ah, to live in a post-racism world, basking in the glow of Fox News on the idiot box...!

AustinMike 02-15-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2412816)
(O)ne of them even said "Biggest issue this country faces is getting people with antiquated values out of the way and gone,", which 2 more leftists then co-signed and +1'd. How would half the country be made 'out of the way and gone'?

Since the person you are falsely ranting about included an example about people on Florida school boards, it is obvious that he meant they should be VOTED out of the way.

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2412816)
Can you imagine what would happen if a person who was not a leftist said this and expressed a wish for the deaths or removal of half the country?

I would imagine it would be the same as if a person who is a leftist expressed a wish for the deaths or removal of half the country. Fortunately, no one, other than you falsely claiming a member made the statement, has expressed any such notion.

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2412816)
The level of anger, absurd accusations, sheer stupidity without any evidence whatsoever for their claims, and even violent wishes is going to get a response when they turn out, yet again, to be 100% factually wrong. All in all, considering the absurdist and violent claims, the responses in this thread are incredibly mild. Nobody has gone even 1% as far as they did.

The person you are falsely ranting about certainly did not exhibit any untoward level of anger or absurd accusations or sheer stupidity. But, you are surely filling that void.

Since you think the person who made the post you are falsely ranting about and those who +1 it owe you and others an apology, I think it only appropriate that you apologize to them for purposefully perverting what was actually written in an attempt to villainize them. Unless, of course, you can provide objective proof that the poster actually is wishing for the deaths or removal of half the country. I can also see you thinking you do not need to apologize to them if your objective was to “shovel a BS political narrative into non-political things and make grandiose claims free of any actual supportable facts” in order to smear a fellow member. In which case ... you succeeded.

AustinMike 02-15-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagerookies51 (Post 2412868)
Someone: Basically says racism has no place in this country
This board: You want to remove all the Republicans?!

+1

Cliff Bowman 02-15-2024 11:22 AM

Nice of you to drop in Mike, how’s the underground Climate Change survival bunker coming along?

hammertime 02-15-2024 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2413169)
Why do you think law enforcement, without even being asked, felt the need to tell the press that "it doesn't appear at this time to be related to race"?

Because they know that's the conclusion the media immediately jumps to in situations like this. It's a vicious cycle, a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes I know it's not the point you were trying to make but the authorities are complicit as well. Why can't they just say "it's under investigation and we will get to the bottom of it"?

And the Fox News ad-hominems are so tired. There are plenty of us who don't watch Fox News, didn't vote for Trump, etc who are sick of all of this.

BobbyStrawberry 02-15-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime (Post 2413186)
Because they know that's the conclusion the media immediately jumps to in situations like this. It's a vicious cycle, a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yes I know it's not the point you were trying to make but the authorities are complicit as well. Why can't they just say "it's under investigation and we will get to the bottom of it"?

That is a good point. Controversial topics draw the clicks and views, that's for sure. And if the media coverage was the reason the obnoxious, angry people on this thread were so upset, I don't think the discussion here would have devolved to the extent it has. I think most reasonable people can agree that the outrage machine is out of control.

bnorth 02-15-2024 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2413155)
delete (forgot it's Lent and I'm trying to be nice)

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2413157)
Very Christian of you!

LOL, sure is. I also believe in a cartoon Santa if that helps.

irv 02-15-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2413181)
Nice of you to drop in Mike, how’s the underground Climate Change survival bunker coming along?

Now, now, Cliff. Everyone knows the climate crisis is real. We have droughts and floods so what further proof does one need?
Forest fires, maybe? Yeah, those for sure cement/confirm the climate crisis is upon us and if we don't act soon (again) we'll only have 7yrs to save the planet.
Record cold around the world too but that too is caused by global warming as I read that hear by a couple who can't explain it, but I believe them because thems edumacated folks wees are talking about here, nothing less.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2Q0V...FhczhhNjdmdTAy

byrone 02-15-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2413221)
Now, now, Cliff. Everyone knows the climate crisis is real. We have droughts and floods so what further proof does one need?
Forest fires, maybe? Yeah, those for sure cement/confirm the climate crisis is upon us and if we don't act soon (again) we'll only have 7yrs to save the planet.
Record cold around the world too but that too is caused by global warming as I read that hear by a couple who can't explain it, but I believe them because thems edumacated folks wees are talking about here, nothing less.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2Q0V...FhczhhNjdmdTAy

We in Canada pay a “carbon tax”.

That’s right, we pay tax on the stuff we exhale and the stuff that keeps plants alive.

Our local carbon tax will increase April 1st, after several previous increases.

And all gasoline, diesel, methane, propane, etc costs much more as a result.

irv 02-15-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by byrone (Post 2413229)
We in Canada pay a “carbon tax”.

That’s right, we pay tax on the stuff we exhale and the stuff that keeps plants alive.

Our local carbon tax will increase April 1st, after several previous increases.

And all gasoline, diesel, methane, propane, etc costs much more as a result.

Remember when Trudeau used the Barrington Lake wildfire as his solid, undeniable token proof the climate crisis was upon us and if you didn't believe him, you were a racist misogynistic climate denier to the maximum max who shouldn't be tolerated? :D

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IQsuchL85OQ
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-lake-wildfire

Republicaninmass 02-15-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman (Post 2413181)
Nice of you to drop in Mike, how’s the underground Climate Change survival bunker coming along?

And now the thread is complete

byrone 02-15-2024 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 2413234)
Remember when Trudeau used the Barrington Lake wildfire as his solid, undeniable token proof the climate crisis was upon us and if you didn't believe him, you were a racist misogynistic climate denier to the maximum max who shouldn't be tolerated? :D

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IQsuchL85OQ
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-lake-wildfire

I do remember

And for our non-Canadian friends, our leader Trudeau is in the running for being the biggest climate hypocrite in the world. I suppose John Kerry, Bill Gates, Obama, the UN, most of Hollywood would be in the running. It really is a very competitive contest, so it seems.

Trudeau thinks nothing of flying anywhere in the world at a moments notice, mostly for personal reasons involving great luxury for himself.

And our streets have never seen such homelessness, addiction issues, and a general malaise and fear.

It’s really quite lothsome.

irv 02-15-2024 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by byrone (Post 2413239)
I do remember

And for our non-Canadian friends, our leader Trudeau is in the running for being the biggest climate hypocrite in the world. I suppose John Kerry, Bill Gates, Obama, the UN, most of Hollywood would be in the running. It really is a very competitive contest, so it seems.

Trudeau thinks nothing of flying anywhere in the world at a moments notice, mostly for personal reasons involving great luxury for himself.

And our streets have never seen such homelessness, addiction issues, and a general malaise and fear.

It’s really quite lothsome.

It's absolutely sickening what is happening to our country, and the U.S's, but some people still can't connect the dots, it seems, as to what party is vastly responsible for the majority of it.

How is Trudeau polling on the coast, or at least in your neck of the woods? I know the east coast has been largely a Liberal supporting area in the past but I am curious if that has changed now?

I don't know many here (I'm east of Toronto) that still like him but I can't speak for Toronto itself, also a known Liberal stronghold? The last poll I seen he was 1 percentage point below (3rd place) of our known terrorist, Singh, but that was a couple weeks ago now.

Heading out to snow blow/shovel some global warming off the driveway/walks ways, including my neighbors, so I'll chat in a bit.

Peter_Spaeth 02-15-2024 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by byrone (Post 2413239)
I do remember

And for our non-Canadian friends, our leader Trudeau is in the running for being the biggest climate hypocrite in the world. I suppose John Kerry, Bill Gates, Obama, the UN, most of Hollywood would be in the running. It really is a very competitive contest, so it seems.

Trudeau thinks nothing of flying anywhere in the world at a moments notice, mostly for personal reasons involving great luxury for himself.

And our streets have never seen such homelessness, addiction issues, and a general malaise and fear.

It’s really quite lothsome.

Al Gore has to be on that short list.

bnorth 02-15-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2413246)
Al Gore has to be on that short list.

Isn't he the guy that invented the internet?

CW 02-15-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2413169)
Proudly asserting from the beginning that there's no way this could be related to racial hate, as many in the troll brigade here did–also without a shred of evidence–is also jumping to a conclusion.

Who did that?

I may not have read every post across the 3 different threads, but everyone seemed to be at least open to the possibility that this was racially motivated. I did not see one person try to completely rule it out, because nobody knew for sure, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Cliff Bowman 02-15-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CW (Post 2413296)
Who did that?

I may not have read every post across the 3 different threads, but everyone seemed to be at least open to the possibility that this was racially motivated. I did not see one person try to completely rule it out, because nobody knew for sure, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

In the Water Cooler thread I said that if I turn out to be wrong and it does turn out to be racial that I would be the first one to do a mea culpa, I also asked how many on the other side will do the same if they are wrong. I count zero in that column.

BobbyStrawberry 02-15-2024 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CW (Post 2413296)
Who did that?

I may not have read every post across the 3 different threads, but everyone seemed to be at least open to the possibility that this was racially motivated. I did not see one person try to completely rule it out, because nobody knew for sure, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Perhaps I overstated that point. The OP in this thread started this dumpster fire with "as predicted...." and I'm fairly certain others made similar comments. I'll take your word for it though, since I'm not digging back through a bunch of hateful, vitriolic garbageposts by people who are now on my ignore list! :)

calvindog 02-15-2024 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2413308)
Perhaps I overstated that point. The OP in this thread started this dumpster fire with "as predicted...." and I'm fairly certain others made similar comments. I'll take your word for it though, since I'm not digging back through a bunch of hateful, vitriolic garbageposts by people who are now on my ignore list! :)

Actually I did suggest that I felt it was a theft for the metal and not the racist incident you were praying for, you pathetic, race-baiting asshole. Which is why I wrote “as predicted.” That I felt the theft was due solely for the metal doesn’t make me a racist — it just makes you a race-baiting asshole for suggesting otherwise.

And I’m fairly certain you’re incapable of blocking me because this seems to be the biggest moment in your life.

Corporal Lance Boil 02-15-2024 07:57 PM

Is anyone concerned about Leon? It's been several days and this thread is clearly political, and not beneficial to the discussion of pre-war baseball cards.

Casey2296 02-15-2024 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Corporal Lance Boil (Post 2413330)
Is anyone concerned about Leon? It's been several days and this thread is clearly political, and not beneficial to the discussion of pre-war baseball cards.

Sometimes Leon just lets us kids play in the sandbox banging our Tonka trucks together for a bit before he puts a stop to it, chalk it up to good parenting.

campyfan39 02-15-2024 08:07 PM

Possible he is like alot of us and thoroughly enjoying seeing some race baiters get their azzez handed to them repeatedly. "Thank you I'll have another"

Carter08 02-15-2024 08:17 PM

What a bizarre thread. Like those that hated Howard Stern, I still have to tune in to take a look I suppose. Seems like so many older white guys just seething. I guess this is a better outlet for it than other avenues.

Cliff Bowman 02-15-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2413334)
What a bizarre thread. Like those that hated Howard Stern, I still have to tune in to take a look I suppose. Seems like so many older white guys just seething. I guess this is a better outlet for it than other avenues.

What word would you use to describe this thread full of self loathing white guys who pray for and look under every rock for perceived white racism that they can get publicly orgasmic about? https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=345746

irv 02-15-2024 09:23 PM

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Perhaps I overstated that point. The OP in this thread started this dumpster fire with "as predicted...." and I'm fairly certain others made similar comments. I'll take your word for it though, since I'm not digging back through a bunch of hateful, vitriolic garbageposts by people who are now on my ignore list! :)

What a complete and utter idiot you are. You also stated the same thing regarding me in the covid thread and since you haven't responded to one of my posts yet, I can only assume you followed through and put me on ignore like you said you would.

Keep this up, you thin skinned snowflake, and pretty soon you'll only be replying/playing pattycakes with the other two dingle berries that tend to follow you around like lost sheep.

Belfast1933 02-16-2024 06:10 AM

Curious why this thread hasn't just been shut down... seems to me, once we get to the "you're a dingleberry" stage, it's just time to get back to talking baseball cards.


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