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Tere1071 10-19-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275053)
If phrasing and connection not just voice make a great singer, he is a great singer. Billie Holiday comes to mind. Judy Garland. Jagger.


Don't forget Dinah Washington, great precise phrasing.

Phil aka Tere1071

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1973 Topps Baseball 647/660

Peter_Spaeth 10-19-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tere1071 (Post 2275203)
Don't forget Dinah Washington, great precise phrasing.

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Agreed, I thought she also had a good voice though and was just trying to list singers who didn't but were still great.

BobC 10-19-2022 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275205)
Agreed, I thought she also had a good voice though and was just trying to list singers who didn't but were still great.

Jimmy Durante and Louis Armstrong

Michael B 10-19-2022 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 2274936)
a tale as old as time, will always see a thread like this every year or so..

Props for quoting the recently deceased Angela Lansbury as the teapot in 'Beauty and the Beast' - 'a tale as old as time....'

Michael B 10-19-2022 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2275028)
I wonder if guys on Sam Cooke and Bob Dylan collector chat boards comment about the state of the market for their mementos and artifacts and then other guys call them out on how boring an issue that is and how it's been beaten to death and then for some reason start steering the discussion towards variations in T206 tobacco cards?

Just wondering.

The beauty of great conversation is that you are not building a train track, you are making a quilt. Every person contributes their own little scrap to make the whole. Some parts may seem a bit incongruous, but the final product can be quite amazing when viewed as a whole.

Peter_Spaeth 10-19-2022 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2275278)
The beauty of great conversation is that you are not building a train track, you are making a quilt. Every person contributes their own little scrap to make the whole. Some parts may seem a bit incongruous, but the final product can be quite amazing when viewed as a whole.

Very well said. If someone starting a thread is going to get triggered if it evolves in another direction, just take a poll.

G1911 10-19-2022 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275200)
front 6 song set for the Concert for Bangladesh is also IMO among his best work, live with George Harrison and Leon Russell up frpmt with him. His voice sounds a little different, I don't think I have heard him sing quite that way on any other album.

One of my favorite live albums.

G1911 10-19-2022 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2275192)
I think that needs a qualification as to only Dylan recordings prior to completely losing his voice.

I have seen The Police and Sting solo, also seen Dylan but I would fully advise against it as he is now a barely understandable shadow of his youth. If we are comparing albums Dylan is a genius, if you are planning your summer concerts skip it and spend on some vintage vinyl.

I loved his 2020 album, I still like his output. He’s 81, I don’t expect him to sound as good as his youth anymore. Anything we get after over half a century is a welcome bonus.

Peter_Spaeth 10-19-2022 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2275282)
One of my favorite live albums.

I don't have the patience for Ravi Shankar, which probably means I need to meditate more. But much great music on the album. Love Leon Russell's version of the Lieber and Stoller/Coasters classic Young Blood. Bob Dylan Live 1966 (with the group that later became The Band but no Levon) is outstanding too. The definitive version IMO of Desolation Row.

G1911 10-19-2022 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275285)
I don't have the patience for Ravi Shankar, which probably means I need to meditate more. But much great music on the album. Love Leon Russell's version of the Lieber and Stoller/Coasters classic Young Blood. Bob Dylan Live 1966 (with the group that later became The Band but no Levon) is outstanding too. The definitive version IMO of Desolation Row.

It really helps it’s peak George Harrison. The All Things Must Pass LP is my favorite Beatles album. Probably an unpopular opinion there.

Peter_Spaeth 10-19-2022 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2275290)
It really helps it’s peak George Harrison. The All Things Must Pass LP is my favorite Beatles album. Probably an unpopular opinion there.

Yes I’ve seen the concert described as notice to the world that there were three great Beatles, not just two.

Peter_Spaeth 10-19-2022 10:34 PM

By the way, the 2003 concert for George is a nice book end to Bangladesh. Clapton, Billy Preston, and I believe Ringo are in both concerts three decades apart.

Shoeless Moe 10-20-2022 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2275278)
The beauty of great conversation is that you are not building a train track, you are making a quilt. Every person contributes their own little scrap to make the whole. Some parts may seem a bit incongruous, but the final product can be quite amazing when viewed as a whole.

How much weed do you smoke?

Yoda 10-20-2022 09:42 AM

Mama is in the factory making some shoes.
Daddy is in the alley looking for food.
And I'm in the kitchen with the Babe Ruth blues.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 09:56 AM

John, it's she ain't got no shoes.

Yoda 10-20-2022 10:06 AM

Peter, I stand corrected. Even though I have heard it a bazillion times, 'Positively 4th Street' still resonates.

raulus 10-20-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2275352)
How much weed do you smoke?

If it's helpful, we've got a lot here in Oregon. If memory serves, the state recently reported that we had like a 30-year supply...

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2275407)
Peter, I stand corrected. Even though I have heard it a bazillion times, 'Positively 4th Street' still resonates.

John, this is from Tombstone Blues.

NYYFan63 10-20-2022 10:14 AM

Love Dylan…


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G1911 10-20-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275294)
By the way, the 2003 concert for George is a nice book end to Bangladesh. Clapton, Billy Preston, and I believe Ringo are in both concerts three decades apart.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard it, actually. I will que it up for this evening. If it’s even half as good as Bangladesh I will be thrilled

Yoda 10-20-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275410)
John, this is from Tombstone Blues.

Peter, I know. Just referencing another great Dylan classic. Also, love the lyrics in 'Tangled up in Blue'.

Exhibitman 10-20-2022 11:48 AM

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parkplace33 10-20-2022 11:51 AM

Heard this from a dealer last week at a card show:

"If you want a great card, you have to pay up."

I couldn't agree more.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2275434)
Peter, I know. Just referencing another great Dylan classic. Also, love the lyrics in 'Tangled up in Blue'.

I suspect Positively 4th Street and Like a Rolling Stone are about the same woman, but not sure if anyone ever figured out definitely who he was so angry at.

I remember playing Blood on the Tracks over and over and over. Tangled Up in Blue may not be the best song from it but certainly the catchiest one.

She turned around to look at me as I was walking away
I heard her say over my shoulder
We'll meet again some day
On the avenue
Tangled up in blue

Michael B 10-20-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2275352)
How much weed do you smoke?

I don't and never have. I think it smells disgusting. I have never done any type of drugs. When I worked as a bouncer in a new wave dance club behind Fenway Park in 1980/81 I was always throwing away vials and the folder paper filled with cocaine.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2275506)
I don't and never have. I think it smells disgusting. I have never done any type of drugs. When I worked as a bouncer in a new wave dance club behind Fenway Park in 1980/81 I was always throwing away vials and the folder paper filled with cocaine.

Spit?

raulus 10-20-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275515)
Spit?

I'm guessing a drug in liquid form that could be carried in a vial.

Not being an expert in such substances, I won't hazard a guess as to which one it might have been.

obcbobd 10-20-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275461)
I suspect Positively 4th Street and Like a Rolling Stone are about the same woman, but not sure if anyone ever figured out definitely who he was so angry at.

I believe that Positively 4th Street is about Pete Seger and the folkies who turned on him after he went electric

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2275519)
I'm guessing a drug in liquid form that could be carried in a vial.

Not being an expert in such substances, I won't hazard a guess as to which one it might have been.

Spit is the name or former name of a notorious new wave club on Landsdowne Street behind Fenway.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by obcbobd (Post 2275520)
I believe that Positively 4th Street is about Pete Seger and the folkies who turned on him after he went electric

I didn't know that, interesting, thanks. I always assumed it was about an ex.

raulus 10-20-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275522)
Spit is the name or former name of a notorious new wave club on Landsdowne Street behind Fenway.

HA. Thanks for the education!

I guess that’s a pretty sweet name for a club.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2275527)
HA. Thanks for the education!

I guess that’s a pretty sweet name for a club.

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Michael B 10-20-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275515)
Spit?

Yes. I was an original employee. It was an interesting place to work. I remember a few musicians who came in - Frank Zappa, Daryl Hall and Tom Hamilton from Aerosmith. I gave Hamilton a ration for doing lines. He apologized. Dennis Eckersley also came in once. For the new wave fans I also saw some interesting shows there - The Fall, Chelsea, Waitresses, Skatt Brothers, The Neighborhoods and the Modettes. In 1981 they moved the WBCN Rumble from The Rat to Spit. One of the bands I saw was the Young Snakes with lead singer Aimee Mann. This was a few years before 'Til Tuesday.

Michael B 10-20-2022 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2275519)
I'm guessing a drug in liquid form that could be carried in a vial.

Not being an expert in such substances, I won't hazard a guess as to which one it might have been.

It was powder. People used to carry around these little screw top vials filled with it. Some would have it as a necklace.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2022 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael B (Post 2275541)
Yes. I was an original employee. It was an interesting place to work. I remember a few musicians who came in - Frank Zappa, Daryl Hall and Tom Hamilton from Aerosmith. I gave Hamilton a ration for doing lines. He apologized. Dennis Eckersley also came in once. For the new wave fans I also saw some interesting shows there - The Fall, Chelsea, Waitresses, Skatt Brothers, The Neighborhoods and the Modettes. In 1981 they moved the WBCN Rumble from The Rat to Spit. One of the bands I saw was the Young Snakes with lead singer Aimee Mann. This was a few years before 'Til Tuesday.

Spit of course had a reputation, but when I went out during law school it was more to "sophisticated" clubs like Maxwell's which was a favorite of Robert Parish among others. I am sure it was incredibly tame compared to Spit.

Michael B 10-20-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275534)

I was there, though I do not remember it. I do recognize a few people from the video. I believe the DJ, leather jacket with pins, near the beginning of the video is Albert O. He worked at WMBR, the MIT station, and WBCN. I thought I also saw David Minehan, lead singer of The Neighborhoods. One of the still photos in the article below the video shows someone wearing an "Uncle Sams" t-shirt. That was a more traditional music club at Nantasket Beach, though the Pretenders played there in 1980.

Michael B 10-20-2022 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2275547)
Spit of course had a reputation, but when I went out during law school it was more to "sophisticated" clubs like Maxwell's which was a favorite of Robert Parish among others. I am sure it was incredibly tame compared to Spit.

It was actually quite tame. Mainly a lot of 'trendies' from the 'burbs and southern NH and a lot of BU kids. The real punk/new wave scene was the live music clubs like The Rat, Cantones, The Underground, The Club, Lulu White's, 1270 Boylston, The Paradise, The Channel, Bradford Ballroom.

The Paradise was almost a go to club for many bands. It was small at 550 seats, but considered the real club to get into. I saw some good acts there - Ramones, Boomtown Rats, The Cars, Greg Kihn, Waitresses, Thin Lizzy, Rick Derringer, Elvin Bishop, Cheap Trick. I had to work at Spit the night U2 was an opening act.

The Channel was much larger at about 1500 capacity. It was out of the way and with being a poor college student with no car living in the western suburbs I did not go there a lot. I did see The English Beat and the Specials, The Jam, The Fleshtones and the Dead Kennedys.

The Bradford Ballroom, in a hotel across from The Wang Center, was also a good size place that hosted a fair amount of shows. The only one I saw there was Gang of Four with Mission of Burma.

npa589 10-20-2022 09:09 PM

So - at the upcoming National - why don't Net54 members put together a band. I can sing the blank out of some U2 songs, and can do any Billy Joel/Elton John/Bob Seger set that people want to hear...


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