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Hxcmilkshake 09-26-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2267611)
Any chance Judge and/or Pujols will be later discovered to have engaged in questionable performance enhancing activities?



It might be a little premature to spike the football and proclaim these two players to be cleaner than the driven snow. They might just have better chemists.



Especially in light of the fact that Pujols is almost definitely not actually 42 years old.

If so, they get burned at the stake.

Until then, why speculate? Why stop there?

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Hxcmilkshake 09-26-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 2267649)
In actuality most of the known supplements taken by many of these players were available at the local GNC and most banned but not illegal substances still are. The Androstenedione that was in the legendary locker background for Big Mac and caused the media stink was being taken by myself admittedly along with some much more powerful agents. Andro is still not illegal, but banned for import since 4/11/2004. Certainly, I can't say this was a harmless activity as I have had cancer twice now and I have no idea if they were interrelated. Most of these supplements were not banned in the US until after the home run chase due to the media focus. As to the Balco type drugs, "The Clear" was legal until 2005 as they were new inventions that the laws had to update to reflect these as illegal as well. The 70's-80s base steroids (Decastacks) were very legal and found in any gym or back pages of weightlifting magazines until 2/27/91 when they were made schedule 3. HGH is also still legal as it gets and available to anyone with the money to get it (check for any "anti-aging" clinic near you and I will bet that you can walk right in for HGH shots and Testosterone supplements/shots/or cremes).

I was an industrial mechanic and a private security agent on weekends for extra money in the early 90's. I was constantly injured from one-shouldering 250 lb worm drives and VFDs while working on mezzanines 40 ft in the air. I took them to heal so I could bring in income for my family and worked out daily to avoid being on disability. I took nothing that was permitted in MLB, but nothing I could not buy easily on line or at GNC. The breaking laws argument is a myth, the breaking league rules after those dates was the only "crime" per say.

I don't agree its a myth. It is illegal to use steroids or hgh without a rx from a dr.

Not Greg Anderson, who served time because of it. Albeit a slap on the wrist.

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JustinD 09-26-2022 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake (Post 2267658)
I don't agree its a myth. It is illegal to use steroids or hgh without a rx from a dr.

Not Greg Anderson, who served time because of it. Albeit a slap on the wrist.

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I was stating during those dates.

However, it is as difficult to get now as getting a subscription for Viagra over the computer.

HGH and steroids are just hidden under the anti-aging label now. I see you are in FL, here is an example of an "anti-aging" center. These have "doctors", but much as the same as states with legalized pot to get a card.

https://floridaantiagingcenter.com/men/

And Greg Anderson got a whole 90 days because it was for conspiracy to distribute and money laundering, not possession.

You are deferring current laws to the past, so I just wanted to show the juxtaposition just like salad bowls of Greenies in 60's/70's locker rooms.

Each and every generation has pushed the envelope. The amphetamines' were legal, hell JFK was fully drugged up on speed everyday. I have never seen proof nor does it exist scientifically that steroids' increase hand eye coordination. And as you said any MLB player can make contact with the ball...well the averages have a lot of argument for that. Can they impact distance? Well I could see that for sure.

As to the greenies, Doc Ellis and many other players have stated that they slowed the game and made hitting much easier. To the point that any ADHD meds which are a similar issue are banned to kingdom come. I just really think no great period is gleaming with honesty. A player focused on his career will likely do anything on the earth to prolong or better it, it's competitiveness... and that has caused numerous problems for history.

Shoeless Moe 09-26-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake (Post 2267655)
If so, they get burned at the stake.

Until then, why speculate? Why stop there?

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Pujols for sure.......Judge probably.

FrankWakefield 09-28-2022 08:58 PM

Congratulations to Aaron Judge, and to the Yankee fans out there!

Casey2296 09-28-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 2267274)
What will be the most popular name for children of baseball fans in the next year?


Henry Judge

or

Aaron Aaron

My guess, if it's a baby born in California he/she will be named "Asterisk".

JimmyC 09-29-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield (Post 2268387)
Congratulations to Aaron Judge, and to the Yankee fans out there!

Congrats Aaron! One of the finest seasons ever compiled in MLB history by one of the finest gentleman in baseball today! 62 on Friday night at home? He will blow the roof off the Stadium!

brian1961 09-29-2022 08:31 AM

I was busy working last night, so did not see the game. Nobody said anything, but I didn't ask. My darling wife knew, but she also knew I would watch the Yankees-Blue Jays highlights on YouTube. When I saw Aaron Judge hit # 61, I started crying; I was so happy for Aaron. Glad too that Roger Maris Jr. and Aaron's parents got to see this historic home run, and have become close. I'm just so happy about this-----61----HEY HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

--- Brian Powell

Ray Van 09-29-2022 09:50 AM

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My view of #61. I was in the second deck and the ball landed almost directly below me.

ullmandds 09-29-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Van (Post 2268483)
My view of #61. I was in the second deck and the ball landed almost directly below me.

awesome! nice pic...ball on bat!!!!

clydepepper 09-29-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2266749)
Even if you erase from your memory, Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa, and Gonzo and Ortiz, etal.... Giancarlo Stanton hit 59 in 2017 for the Marlins. I don't remember it being a big deal at all.

I think a Triple Crown would be cool, but it's not a daily must see like a hitting streak. Cabrera did it a while back and I bet Tigers fans loved it. I thought it was neat.



I wish Luis Gonzalez didn't get clumped in with those guys, but, I guess, if 57 homers weren't obvious enough, he had to go and have triplets. LOL


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JimmyC 09-29-2022 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Van (Post 2268483)
My view of #61. I was in the second deck and the ball landed almost directly below me.

Great shot!! What a fantastic game to attend!

GaryPassamonte 09-29-2022 01:58 PM

61 Hrs in 155 games. Judge tied Ruth's 154 game total of 60. Too bad he didn't hit number 61 one game sooner.

frankbmd 09-29-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2268388)
My guess, if it's a baby born in California he/she will be named "Asterisk".

Not as damning as A-steroid I suppose.


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