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chadeast 09-10-2022 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2257401)
I've added 15 cards since my last post. I've got some traction now on HOFers, including Young, Wallace, Bender, Tinker, and Chance. As best I can tell, EGGS at 90 now. Here's a couple of my latest additions, courtesy of BST (thanks Jay) and LOTG.

I picked up 9 more during the last two weeks, up to 84 cards total now I believe. EGGS of 106 thanks to a couple of big pickups including Speaker and this Matty from a board member.

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brianp-beme 09-10-2022 11:57 PM

Good looking Matty, and as a bonus it appears nicely in focus. 3 digit EGGS for you!

Brian

Millerd33 09-28-2022 08:34 PM

After the Philly show you can move me up to 382.
No Stats remains.

kmac32 09-28-2022 08:45 PM

i have 149 out of a possible 151 T205 Cubs with multiple back runs. The only 2 cards I am missing from the subset are the Kling and Pfiester Hindu cards.

brianp-beme 09-29-2022 01:56 AM

Only need to knock the Hobby no stats cap off the Kraken, Millerd33, to vanquish the beast.

And Ken, when I have some time I will figure out your Kraken number. As per strict Kraken rules, your Master Cubs collection will have a relatively small numerical number, but I will note the masterliness of your Cubs group. I remember when you just started on it, I mentioned it might be impossible for you to achieve...you have almost proven me wrong. Find those 2 Hindus!

Brian

frohme 09-29-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kmac32 (Post 2268383)
i have 149 out of a possible 151 T205 Cubs with multiple back runs. The only 2 cards I am missing from the subset are the Kling and Pfiester Hindu cards.

Great to hear Ken - good luck with the last two!

chadeast 09-29-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2268410)
Only need to knock the Hobby no stats cap off the Kraken, Millerd33, to vanquish the beast.

And Ken, when I have some time I will figure out your Kraken number. As per strict Kraken rules, your Master Cubs collection will have a relatively small numerical number, but I will note the masterliness of your Cubs group. I remember when you just started on it, I mentioned it might be impossible for you to achieve...you have almost proven me wrong. Find those 2 Hindus!

Brian

Clarification, are you calling T205 an EGGS number or a Kraken number?

EDIT: nm, I figured it out when I saw your other thread. Kraken is the E90-1 set.

Yoda 09-29-2022 08:15 PM

Brian, just landed a Chase left ear showing, so I guess that ups me 3 points.

brianp-beme 09-30-2022 12:36 AM

Ahhh....the danger of running two similar threads of this type. I actually meant 'knock the Hobby no stats cap off the Tiger Shark's dorsal area', because a Tiger Shark lays EGGS.

I had to look that up, I am no marine biologist. And John, I added 3 points to your Tiger Shark number.

Brian

brianp-beme 11-09-2022 07:28 PM

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A delectable T205 card depiction to whet the collector appetite for EGGS.

Brian

TigerMike 11-19-2022 09:13 PM

Was able to grab my last of the Hoblitzells in REA....gets me to the 400 number! Excited to join the club of complete master sets.

chadeast 11-19-2022 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2262424)
I picked up 9 more during the last two weeks, up to 84 cards total now I believe. EGGS of 106 thanks to a couple of big pickups including Speaker and this Matty from a board member.

38 more cards added in the last few months, so I'm up to 122, and add another 48 to my EGGS (I think) so my best guess is that I'm at 154. New HOF pickups include Wheat, McGraw, Jennings, Collins closed mouth, Wallace no cap, Marquard, Huggins, and Duffy. I'll try to add some scans when I have time.

EDIT: I did the math and my EGGS is actually 163. I had missed a bunch of 2's.

brianp-beme 11-19-2022 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerMike (Post 2285307)
Was able to grab my last of the Hoblitzells in REA....gets me to the 400 number! Excited to join the club of complete master sets.

Nice! Good luck if you decide to pursue the asterisks.

Brian

brianp-beme 11-19-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chadeast (Post 2285318)
38 more cards added in the last few months, so I'm up to 122, and add another 48 to my EGGS (I think) so my best guess is that I'm at 154. New HOF pickups include Wheat, McGraw, Jennings, Collins closed mouth, Wallace no cap, Marquard, Huggins, and Duffy. I'll try to add some scans when I have time.

Fun to see some rocketing up the EGGS list...keep it going.

Brian

lentel 11-20-2022 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2232708)
Here finally is the long-awaited thread that collectors can post their progress on the T205 set. I like to think of the T205 as the Gold Standard of Tobacco cards, and the set has inspired many to pursue it over its 111+ years of existence, due to its great design, colorful look, gold borders, awesome lineup of players, bio writeups on the back, different brand advertising, and various levels of scarcity to tempt those who like a good challenge when collecting.

This thread addresses that challenge by assigning EGGS (Elite Gold Gilded Set) values to individual cards in the set based upon both their scarcity and their popularity. This endeavor has truly been a collaborative effort - in case you missed it, here is a link to the previous thread that garnered plenty of input from the community that shaped the final EGGS values:

https://net54baseball.com/showthread...0225&highlight

There are 221 officially recognized cards in the master set. 141 of these have been assigned a value of 1. These cards are not shown in the below listing, which highlights cards that have EGGS values between 2 and 18. When added up, the total EGGS value for a complete master set works out to 400, which as pointed out in the previous thread, is a fitting total amount for this, as the vast majority of the different brand advertising on the back indicates 400 designs.

The next post on this thread will be the running list for collectors to post the status of their T205 collection by identifying the Total EGGS value of the set they are working/worked on. This input from collectors will be maintained by me, just as I have for the E90-1 set on the Kraken thread.

For the purposes of this list backs were not considered when calculating each cards value, to keep things on a relatively simple level. There are also 8 variations that have not been recognized as widely within the hobby:

Collins, Eddie - closed mouth w/yellow elephant

Graham, George - Rustlers w/blue signature

Hoffman, Danny - yellow 2nd base, yellowish stripe in background

Hoffman, Danny - yellow 2nd base, no stripe

Miller, Dots - middle initial 'D'

Miller, Dots - middle initial 'D' with partial 'B'

Snodgrass, Fred - missing decimal point on .405 batting average

White, Doc - no quotation marks on Doc

I have decided for this reason not to assign values for these 8 cards. Collectors can indicate with their post how many of these cards they have, and I will post Speckled Eggs (asterisks) after their point total. For example a collection with value of 237 that has 3 of the above less recognized variations would be listed as: 237***

Below is the values of each of the 80 cards that have a value of 2 or more to figure out your total EGGS amount (As a reminder the 141 other cards in the official master set that are not shown have a value of 1):


Cards with EGGS value of 2:

Adkins, Doc ML

Baker, Frank

Barger, Cy - partial B on cap

Batch, Emil ML

Bender, Chief

Bresnahan, Roger - mouth closed

Brown, Mordecai

Cady, Hick ML

Chance, Frank

Chase, Hal - border on shirt

Chase, Hal - no border on shirt

Clarke, Fred

Collins, Eddie - mouth closed

Crandall, Otis - 'T' not crossed

Daubert, Jake

Donohue, Jiggs SP

Dougherty, Patsy - red sock

Dougherty, Patsy - white sock

Duffy, Hugh

Dunn, Jack ML

Fisher, Ray SP

Ford, Russ - white cap

Frick, James ML

Gray, Dolly - no stats

Griffith, Clarke

Hanford, Charles ML

Harmon, Robert - only left ear shows

Hoblitzell, Dick - name incorrect/no Cin. after 1908

Huggins, Miller

Jennings, Hugh

Karger, Ed SP

Kleinow, Red SP

Lee, Wyatt ML

Leifield, Lefty - A.P. Leifield on front

Marquard, Rube

McAllister, Sport ML

McGraw, John

Merritt, George ML

Nee, John ML

Phelan, James ML

Rowan, John SP

Scanlan, Doc SP

Sweeney, Jeff SP

Tinker, Joe

Vaughn, Hippo SP

Wagner, Heinie SP

Wallace, Bobby - with cap

Wheat, Zack

White, Kirb SP

Wiltse, Hooks - only right ear shows


Cards with value of 3:

Chase, Hal - only left ear shows

Cicotte, Eddie

Dahlen, Bill SP

Evers, Johnny

Graham, George - Cubs

Grant, Ed SP

Hoblitzell, Dick - name correct/no Cin. after 1908

Latham, Arlie - W.A. Latham on back

Raymond, Bugs SP

Shean, David - Cubs

Suggs, George SP

Turner, Terry SP

Wallace, Bobby - no cap/2 lines of 1910 stats


Cards with value of 4:

Bresnahan, Roger - mouth open

Collins, Eddie - mouth open

Collins, Jimmy ML

Speaker, Tris

Walsh, Ed SP


Cards with value of 5:

Gray, Dolly - stats on back

Mathewson, Christy - correct stats

Wilhelm, Kaiser - suffe ed in 18th line of bio SP


Cards with value of 6:

Johnson, Walter

Moran, Pat - stray line of type

Young, Cy


Cards with value of 7 or more (EGGS value in parenthesis):

Cobb, Ty (12)

Hoblitzell, Dick - no stats on back (18)

Joss, Addie SP (7)

Mathewson, Christy - Cycle Back, incorrect stats (13)

Wallace, Bobby - no cap - 1 line of 1910 stats (7)

Wilhelm, Kaiser - suffered in 18th line of bio (10)


Brian - here are some examples of T205 cards of varying values. I have included a scan of two Ewing cards to emphasize that, no matter whether your Ewing looks normal or more like one of the Village People, either one is worth one point, and no extra credit is given for multiple examples

i have 400 points full master set with the addition of

Hoffman, Danny - yellow 2nd base, yellowish stripe in background

Hoffman, Danny - yellow 2nd base, no stripe

Miller, Dots - middle initial 'D'

Snodgrass, Fred - missing decimal point on .405 batting average

White, Doc - no quotation marks on Doc

brianp-beme 11-20-2022 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lentel (Post 2285648)
i have 400 points full master set with the addition of

Hoffman, Danny - yellow 2nd base, yellowish stripe in background

Hoffman, Danny - yellow 2nd base, no stripe

Miller, Dots - middle initial 'D'

Snodgrass, Fred - missing decimal point on .405 batting average

White, Doc - no quotation marks on Doc


Another master set for the top of the list. Thanks for sharing, because T205 cards are special, and it's nice to see additional folks that appreciate this set.

Brian

RCMcKenzie 11-25-2022 04:02 PM

Testing, testing, 1,2,3
 
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I think I figured out how to use my old scanner with my new laptop. It's taken 4 months of trial and error. Here goes...

Not sure of my EGG/Kraken number as I mostly collect the backs.

nebboy 11-25-2022 04:31 PM

Rob nice clear clean scan - you got my juices flowing to re-catalog my entire collection. going to have to figure out my scanner settings again also. Thanks for sharing.

RCMcKenzie 11-25-2022 05:27 PM

Thanks, John, and good luck with the scanning.

In my case, I have a GT-1500 by Epson. I had downloaded the software from a 3rd party website and it did not work. Today I found the software on the Epson site. It works with auto-settings only, which is okay with me.

brianp-beme 11-25-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2287212)
I think I figured out how to use my old scanner with my new laptop. It's taken 4 months of trial and error. Here goes...

Not sure of my EGG/Kraken number as I mostly collect the backs.

I command that your weekend chore is to figure out your EGGS and Kraken numbers and report back the results.

Brian (this hobby is fun, but only after you do your chores. And no dessert before dinner.)

Forever Young 11-26-2022 08:00 AM

Type 1 Paul Thomson photo
 
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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2287212)
I think I figured out how to use my old scanner with my new laptop. It's taken 4 months of trial and error. Here goes...

Not sure of my EGG/Kraken number as I mostly collect the backs.

I always love seeing this card as it immediately takes my brain to this photo- one of the best 1910 Paul Thompson portrait photos used for the t205 set in terms of image quality. The card doesn’t do it justice even when the registration is spot on such as your beautiful example. His extreme features just aren’t quite captured in the card. It is not the most valuable Type 1 photo in terms of dollars in my collection but it provides great joy. Yes.. I know how weird that sounds ��

jimq16415 11-26-2022 08:36 AM

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If anybody is looking at all your beautiful cards and thinking how sad it is that they have almost none, I have eggsactly one left. Medical bills, but I couldn't part with this one. It's not nice but it's mine.

brianp-beme 11-26-2022 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 2287357)
I always love seeing this card as it immediately take my brain to this photo- one of the best Paul Thompson portrait photos used for the t205 set in terms of image quality. The card doesn’t do it justice even when the registration is spot on such as your beautiful example. His extreme features just aren’t quite captured in the card. in It is not the most valuable Type 1 photo in terms of dollars in my collection but it provides great joy. Yes.. I know how weird that sounds ��

That Paul Thompson photo doesn't hide a thing...it is pretty impressive. I think the T205 artist(s) did a great job with capturing the player's essence, but they also were not afraid to smooth out facial features. The original photoshoppers.

Brian

brianp-beme 11-26-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jimq16415 (Post 2287371)
If anybody is looking at all your beautiful cards and thinking how sad it is that they have almost none, I have eggsactly one left. Medical bills, but I couldn't part with this one. It's not nice but it's mine.

It's great that you were able to keep the card that meant the most to you, and its qualifies for eggsactly 7 on the EGGS list. Stay healthy and enjoy the Joss.

Brian

RCMcKenzie 11-27-2022 10:46 AM

Very nice Thompson photo. Thanks for posting it. B&W photography is becoming a lost art.

Also, nice Joss. I don't have one in my collection, yet. It is a long work in progress.

Brian, I looked at my T205 box, placed the Schulte in there, and thought about counting the points. I will get to it soon. I should have some extra time over the holidays. Rob

Alaskanmade 01-16-2023 08:08 AM

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Finally picked up a Collins (now converting him to PSA).
This puts by EGGS at 99!

brianp-beme 01-16-2023 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alaskanmade (Post 2304824)
Finally picked up a Collins (now converting him to PSA).
This puts by EGGS at 99!

Nice 99. You will be updated to the brink of the century mark.

Brian

RCMcKenzie 02-04-2023 02:39 PM

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I am now at 142 with lots of 1 pointers and dupes as I'm working on back runs and HLC's and other 1 pointer stuff. Here's my latest addition, no new points to add with this one. My brother, who quit collecting 35 years ago, would call this "mint" because that's what cards like this were called back then.

brianp-beme 02-04-2023 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2311097)
I am now at 142 with lots of 1 pointers and dupes as I'm working on back runs and HLC's and other 1 pointer stuff. Here's my latest addition, no new points to add with this one. My brother, who quit collecting 35 years ago, would call this "mint" because that's what cards like this were called back then.

That Titus would be Nr-Mt/Mint to me (that's my old-timey designation for it...I guess I was a strict grader for that long gone time frame). Welcome to the club, and even you don't get bonus EGGS points for dupes or different backs, they still are awfully cool.

Brian

Alaskanmade 06-13-2023 08:50 AM

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Officially up to 102!
This guy was hard to find at the right price / condition point.

rats60 06-13-2023 09:20 AM

I added Hoblitzell correct no Cin to add 3 to my total bringing me to 341.

brianp-beme 06-13-2023 09:56 AM

I was just thinking about EGGS this morning, perhaps because it was what was on the breakfast plate. Nice tougher pickups, and your respective multiple baker's dozen numbers will be updated.

Brian

Mark2391 06-13-2023 06:01 PM

Hi - just stumbled upon this thread, thankfully. T205 is my favorite set.

I’d like to throw my name into the mix. I have 202 total T205s for an EGGS score of 302.

Yoda 06-13-2023 06:17 PM

Since this great thread has re-emerged, I have picked up a Baker, Duffy and Collins (mouth closed).

brianp-beme 06-14-2023 09:48 AM

Welcome aboard Mark2391...your EGGS number has been installed in its lofty position, and John I updated your number by 6 to the total of 55, let me know if different.

Brian

brianp-beme 11-23-2023 11:57 PM

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It has been over 5 months since the last post...surely some updates or new folks that want to cross the borders into this golden thread.

Below is a visual reminder of what a T205 looks like. Gaze steadily at it for a few minutes, and then close your eyes. Perhaps the inside of your eyelids will have started collecting a new set of prewar cards (or you will just have some dude named Harry that can't seem to stop staring into your brain).

Brian

orioles70 11-24-2023 02:40 AM

I still need the Mathewson with Cycle back ..so still stuck at 387.

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jjp3rd 11-24-2023 05:20 AM

Just seeing this for first time. I’ll have to calculate mine. Any chance there’s a points spreadsheet?


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orioles70 11-24-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jjp3rd (Post 2391243)
Just seeing this for first time. I’ll have to calculate mine. Any chance there’s a points spreadsheet?


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Post #1 has the "eggs" assigned to each card and post #2 has the list of us chickens and our egg total.

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brianp-beme 11-24-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jjp3rd (Post 2391243)
Just seeing this for first time. I’ll have to calculate mine. Any chance there’s a points spreadsheet?

Welcome eventually aboard! As John mentioned, the first two posts are the whole T205 chicken coop...the only sheets I ever spread are on my bed.

Brian

Yoda 11-24-2023 11:47 AM

Brian, add me in for a Griffith and a Titus. Your tally is correct.

brianp-beme 11-24-2023 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2391307)
Brian, add me in for a Griffith and a Titus. Your tally is correct.

Hi John, you have been upgraded by 3 points.

Brian

mrdbrooks77 11-25-2023 01:04 AM

360 here


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brianp-beme 11-25-2023 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mrdbrooks77 (Post 2391485)
360 here

Welcome aboard...let me direct you to your first class seat.


Brian

Mark2391 06-12-2024 11:48 AM

Hi - Please bump me up to 318

Thanks!

brianp-beme 06-12-2024 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark2391 (Post 2440894)
Hi - Please bump me up to 318

Thanks!

Thanks, updated. I was thinking about bumping this thread, but now I don't have to.

I noticed that your previous EGGS number was from exactly one year ago (minus a day)...welcome back, Mid-June T205 collector!


Brian (and a scan of a not so random card to keep this T205 Cycle rolling)

collectt205 09-26-2024 12:10 PM

Great thread, figured I would add myself to the tally. EGGS = 144.

Have to post a photo, here is my newest EGGS (3!) addition.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/48MAA...U/s-l1600.webp

brianp-beme 09-26-2024 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by collectt205 (Post 2463634)
Great thread, figured I would add myself to the tally. EGGS = 144.

Have to post a photo, here is my newest EGGS (3!) addition.


You have been added to the roll call at EGGSactly the 144 level. And nice Dahlen...always nice to add a potential future HOF to the lineup, especially one that is a little tougher to come by.

Brian

Alaskanmade 03-21-2025 02:30 PM

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Up to 105 with the addition of Mr. Dahlen!

brianp-beme 03-21-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alaskanmade (Post 2504723)
Up to 105 with the addition of Mr. Dahlen!

Nice T205 photo. Looks like Dahlen slid in between noted ne'er do wells Cicotte and Chase. And thanks for bumping this thread...that's one less thing to accomplish on my to (ne'er) do (well) list.


Brian


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