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Mike D. 09-08-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcosta19 (Post 2261323)
In another example of their inconsistencies I had a single card express order arrived August 4th and got it back within 2.5 weeks or so.

Unfortunately the holder came back cracked and was obviously cracked in the PSA cert verification image as well. Spent 3 whole days in QA2 and no one picked up on it.

Now it's back at PSA for a free reholder and after a week still in Research and ID.

It is very frustrating when a card spends days to weeks in not one but TWO QA "checks", then shows up with obvious damage, typos, etc. Why bother to have QA if nobody is actually going to look at the cards?

Johnny630 09-08-2022 03:26 PM

Bulk Is Back, $22 per card. 120-150 Calendar Days.

Sweet !!!!

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-08-2022 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2261720)
It is very frustrating when a card spends days to weeks in not one but TWO QA "checks", then shows up with obvious damage, typos, etc. Why bother to have QA if nobody is actually going to look at the cards?

Because they're actually built-in ways to stall?

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-08-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2261725)
Bulk Is Back, $22 per card. 120-150 Calendar Days.

Sweet !!!!

Remember when bulk was $6 >sigh<

Mike D. 09-08-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2261734)
Because they're actually built-in ways to stall?

Yeah, I guess. It's just crazy because if they ACTUALLY did some QA, they'd save themselves a lot of time and money AND make customers happier.

55koufax 09-09-2022 04:24 PM

I was told.....
 
Yesterday I went to PSA and my REP told me they are just about caught up with the early 2021 BULK SUBS.....that said, they still have 225 of mine that were dropped off MAR, 2021. They are almost done, and I p/u'd about 500 others from MAR, 2021 that were recently completed.

He told me PSA made ZERO profit and just breaks even from my MAR 2021 subs and the same type of profit holds true for everyone's last BULK SUBS that got in under $10 per. in early 2021...

Those days are long gone...

Fuddjcal 09-09-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2261109)
I have a 62 card order at the $150 level, YES $150 per card of $9000+. It was entered on the 20th of August and as of just now is still in Assembly. The site says Express is 14 calendar days. Maybe they shoul teach the graders to count before they teach them to grade. They are not good at either!

you really like when they will POP and Pop in general. Hop on Pop. POPOPOPOPOPOP. Can't wait for ya to POP. Forget this assembly stuff. Let us know when they Pop? For 9K I would expect Popage of some sort? AND FAST

Fuddjcal 09-09-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2261653)
And now just today, my submission jumped! Popped up to QC1 phase. So apparently they jumped to the front of the line and got graded and assembled in a couple of days. If they blaze through the last couple of steps, maybe they'll come close to hitting that 2-week mark...

That's what I like. POPS!!!! And the excitement that only POP can create. I'm Happy!!!!!

Bridwell 09-11-2022 06:35 PM

17 months
 
I did finally receive my 2 PSA orders I had mailed to them 17 months ago. The excitement was dampened by some surprisingly low grades on many of the cards. Many Near Mint newer cards got 5's and 6's.

chadeast 09-11-2022 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 55koufax (Post 2262043)
Yesterday I went to PSA and my REP told me they are just about caught up with the early 2021 BULK SUBS.....that said, they still have 225 of mine that were dropped off MAR, 2021. They are almost done, and I p/u'd about 500 others from MAR, 2021 that were recently completed.

He told me PSA made ZERO profit and just breaks even from my MAR 2021 subs and the same type of profit holds true for everyone's last BULK SUBS that got in under $10 per. in early 2021...

Those days are long gone...

I don't know how that could be true unless their economics have significantly changed in two years. They were happy grading hundreds of thousands of cards bulk at < $10 for many years, and the registry exists because of it. If those days are long gone then the registry's days as the supposed driver of PSA's dominance in the market are going to come to an end as well. And perhaps they realize that and have decided that they are OK with it.

Casey2296 09-11-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2261738)
Yeah, I guess. It's just crazy because if they ACTUALLY did some QA, they'd save themselves a lot of time and money AND make customers happier.

I thought QA meant quality assurance, come to find out it means Quietly Avoiding.

hockeyhockey 09-12-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike D. (Post 2261720)
It is very frustrating when a card spends days to weeks in not one but TWO QA "checks", then shows up with obvious damage, typos, etc. Why bother to have QA if nobody is actually going to look at the cards?

it is pretty ridiculous. the QA process would be great if the people doing those jobs actually did the job.

as far as the current timeline, i have a 30 card order that zipped through grading and assembly in a month. sent in july, was in QA1 as of 4 weeks ago. 2 weeks in QA1, and now 2 weeks in QA2, still there. 2 months is great, no complaints whatsoever about that...but would be cool to find out how the whole assembly line from soup to nuts actually works. seems more of a totally random process from afar.

Mike D. 09-12-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeyhockey (Post 2262767)
it is pretty ridiculous. the QA process would be great if the people doing those jobs actually did the job.

as far as the current timeline, i have a 30 card order that zipped through grading and assembly in a month. sent in july, was in QA1 as of 4 weeks ago. 2 weeks in QA1, and now 2 weeks in QA2, still there. 2 months is great, no complaints whatsoever about that...but would be cool to find out how the whole assembly line from soup to nuts actually works. seems more of a totally random process from afar.

I'm with you. I have a few subs I sent in July. One in grading, one in Q1, and one in Q2...I've had some subs be through QA1 and QA2 in a few days, but these have been in their current state a few weeks now.

I get that demand ebbs and flows, but it'd be nice to have a bit more transparency in the whole process.

NATCARD 09-13-2022 04:48 PM

Psa snail express update
 
Just an update as my $9000 Express order at $150 a card *60 cards is in day 24 of a 14 day estimate. Still in Qcheck 1 where it has been now for 7 days!
As an aside Sent SGC 202 cards that were received on September 6th, Graded on the 12th and fed ex shipped back TODAY! 1 WEEK!

raulus 09-13-2022 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2263319)
Just an update as my $9000 Express order at $150 a card *60 cards is in day 24 of a 14 day estimate. Still in Qcheck 1 where it has been now for 7 days!
As an aside Sent SGC 202 cards that were received on September 6th, Graded on the 12th and fed ex shipped back TODAY! 1 WEEK!

Well, here's a little hope for you:

PSA just sent me my grades yesterday. Smaller express order of just 6 items, entered on 8/24. But finished yesterday, which equates to 19 days. Not exactly 14 days, but also not tooooooooooooooo far off.

I won't comment on the grades, but I expect that 4 of my items will be resubmitted at some point.

Snowman 09-13-2022 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 55koufax (Post 2262043)

He told me PSA made ZERO profit and just breaks even from my MAR 2021 subs and the same type of profit holds true for everyone's last BULK SUBS that got in under $10 per. in early 2021...

Those days are long gone...

I agree that those days are long gone, but I call bullshit on them claiming they can't profit at $10 per card. Graders look at them for less than 1 minutes each, and the aggregate time spend per card for receiving, research, QA, and shipping has to be less than 5 minutes in total for bulk subs, and most likely less than 2 or 3 minutes per card average. There's no scenario whatsoever that this doesn't cover their costs.

Snowman 09-13-2022 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridwell (Post 2262678)
I did finally receive my 2 PSA orders I had mailed to them 17 months ago. The excitement was dampened by some surprisingly low grades on many of the cards. Many Near Mint newer cards got 5's and 6's.

Unfortunately, you're not alone. I just got two legit gem mint cards back in my most recent sub that they gave a 9 and an 8 to. Both were SGC 10s, and both which I graded as 10s myself (and historically, I've been more strict than both PSA and SGC on my submissions). Meanwhile, in the same sub, they gave me a 10 on a card they graded as a 9 last time. Lol

55koufax 09-13-2022 06:03 PM

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I agree that those days are long gone, but I call bullshit on them claiming they can't profit at $10 per card. Graders look at them for less than 1 minutes each, and the aggregate time spend per card for receiving, research, QA, and shipping has to be less than 5 minutes in total for bulk subs, and most likely less than 2 or 3 minutes per card average. There's no scenario whatsoever that this doesn't cover their costs.

Assuming PSA made a profit in 2008 with my very 1st BULK SUB @ $4.25 per
It stands to reason that if you DBL it to $9, 14 years later, they should still make a profit @ $9 per (likely less as SNOWMAN points out).

This $18 per and $22 per means exceptional profits.

One thing that should be analyzed, is PSA far less efficient with their new ownership, leadership, and staff vs. 2008 when Joe O. was in charge?

Fuddjcal 09-13-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2263319)
Just an update as my $9000 Express order at $150 a card *60 cards is in day 24 of a 14 day estimate. Still in Qcheck 1 where it has been now for 7 days!
As an aside Sent SGC 202 cards that were received on September 6th, Graded on the 12th and fed ex shipped back TODAY! 1 WEEK!

You're a gradeaholic, Yeesh. Good luck:D

Fuddjcal 09-13-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2263329)
Unfortunately, you're not alone. I just got two legit gem mint cards back in my most recent sub that they gave a 9 and an 8 to. Both were SGC 10s, and both which I graded as 10s myself (and historically, I've been more strict than both PSA and SGC on my submissions). Meanwhile, in the same sub, they gave me a 10 on a card they graded as a 9 last time. Lol

I'm a strict grader too. All my cards are 10's

Bridwell 09-14-2022 10:31 PM

Psa
 
Yes, I did get a couple of surprising 10's from PSA in these batches. Weird that cards that look like 7's and 8's to me get 5's and 6's and then a couple of cards get 9's and 10's! They are seeing something different than I'm seeing!

NATCARD 09-19-2022 03:08 PM

Express Order Really?
 
Wanted to give an update on my 62 card * $150 per card EXPRESS order.
Website: Express service is a 14 day estimated turnaround. 14 days, not weekdays, not mondays, DAYS!
Arrived on August 19th
Entered on August 20th
Made it QA Check1 on September 8th
Made it to QA Check2 within the last hour!
Today is Day 30! That is pretty close to 14 days. Double +++. My hopes are I will have those Carolina Brights Grades for all of you before they go to auction!
thanks, Jeff W

bobbyw8469 09-19-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2265339)
Wanted to give an update on my 62 card * $150 per card EXPRESS order.
Website: Express service is a 14 day estimated turnaround. 14 days, not weekdays, not mondays, DAYS!
Arrived on August 19th
Entered on August 20th
Made it QA Check1 on September 8th
Made it to QA Check2 within the last hour!
Today is Day 30! That is pretty close to 14 days. Double +++. My hopes are I will have those Carolina Brights Grades for all of you before they go to auction!
thanks, Jeff W

That's crazy Jeff. Good luck with your grades.

Mike D. 09-20-2022 01:21 PM

Just had grades pop for a July $18 monthly special (1996-present) pop!

Arrived at PSA: 07/29/22
Checked In: 08/11/22

I'm happy enough with 7 PSA 10's, 12 PSA 9's, and 5 PSA 8's out of the 24 card sub.

A pre-1995 monthly special mailed the same day is in grading.

My $30 value special mailed 07/07/22 has been in QA2 for a couple weeks...found out why yesterday. They damaged one of my cards and are crediting me for it. Now that that's resolved, hoping they pop any day.

NATCARD 09-20-2022 05:43 PM

Not in order
 
That last post tells me that PSA has no order to which they are grading orders. Blindly taking in orders and doing them at best!

Lorewalker 09-21-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2265747)
That last post tells me that PSA has no order to which they are grading orders. Blindly taking in orders and doing them at best!

Yeah. The orders by service are no longer being processed in the order they were received but that has been going on now for a couple of months. Random chaos in Newport Beach.

NATCARD 09-21-2022 09:08 AM

More order chaos
 
(3) PSA orders all shipped in the same package
All arrived on August 22nd
3 cards at Economy level entered on the 30th in grading
2 cards at the express level entered on the 29th in research
1 card at regular service entered on the 29th in grading
A guess paying more for higher $$ cards and quicker speed is irrelevant!
Jeff Weisenberg

Lorewalker 09-21-2022 01:09 PM

There is a PSA Order Tracker thread on blowout that I follow. Presently there has to be ZERO internal controls on the order processing. My guess is that graders are just walking into the areas where orders are stored and just randomly grab orders to process.

Not a huge fan of SGC's at this time, but for whatever the reason, there are no delays there and they process submissions in the order they receive them.

Clearly PSA's pissing off and frustrating submitters has not hurt their business in the least and may very well be contributing to their success. Stockholm syndrome for the PSA faithful. Honestly it is a horribly run company and the present management has no better handle on it than the previous.

NATCARD 09-21-2022 03:40 PM

DAY 32 and done!
 
Wow, pretty much all I can say. 62 cards at the express level of $150 per card and they are finally graded and on their way back. Oh, by the way (6 upcharges) toalling $1500 more on the orginal bill! I will post the Carolina Brights grades on the other thread. thanks, Jeff W

BobbyStrawberry 09-21-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2266149)
Wow, pretty much all I can say. 62 cards at the express level of $150 per card and they are finally graded and on their way back. Oh, by the way (6 upcharges) toalling $1500 more on the orginal bill! I will post the Carolina Brights grades on the other thread. thanks, Jeff W

So, almost $11k to grade 62 cards?

NATCARD 09-21-2022 05:34 PM

$11k / 62 yes
 
yes $150 per card with an upcharge to $300 on 5 and $600 on another!

BobbyStrawberry 09-21-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2266205)
yes $150 per card with an upcharge to $300 on 5 and $600 on another!

Wow! That's quite a price tag. Out of curiosity, are you grading these to sell, or are they staying in your collection?

NATCARD 09-21-2022 06:16 PM

Graded to sell
 
This is the Carolina Brights Back T206 find that we are currently in the process of auctioning (November 16, 2022) Central Mass Auctions.

BobbyStrawberry 09-21-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NATCARD (Post 2266225)
This is the Carolina Brights Back T206 find that we are currently in the process of auctioning (November 16, 2022) Central Mass Auctions.

Great! I hope you'll share some pics when they are ready:)


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