Oh, Val. That has the “blue” caption. Wouldn’t work at all. It would, however, look good in my collection.

Brian - Nice to see that the Schalk Faber and Kerr graded out well!

Felsch being interviewed by Jerry Harrington
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...FELSCH_NEW.JPG


...Talkin' baseball with Hap Felsch..... The "trolley series" of 1944 with St.Louis Browns vs.St. Louis Cardinals.............note the Pevely Ice Cream sign....... ( I think I read once that despite going six games , the series did not have one stolen base )?

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Yes they did! Thank you for your help! :)

Adding a larger-size card of one of the "not out" players.

Art "Hap" Felsch I believe claimed to be a cousin or something like that to Happy Felsch of Black Sox fame. Art was known for camping out and being the first to buy tickets to the World Series and he had a pretty long history of doing that

Thank you Mike!
So Cool.
Someone who sees baseball history from a different angle than most. I love your pairing of the two pieces; you touch on two of my projects, '44 WS game/series winning hit in game 6 and the catcher that Harrington called games on ('33 Millers).
My wife is just shaking her head; as I, with Kid-in-a-Candy-Store enthusiasm, tell her about your cool post.
And yes, Baseball Reference shows both sides with "0" SB's.

Thank you Mike.
Made My Day.

Ben

"I love baseball history backstory; especially when it involves cards."

Here's another Comiskey.

Chick
 

with multi struck Tolstoi and Magenta overprint of Hernando Cortes from T-68 men of history:D

That is an unbelievable collection!

Thank you!
Actually just completed it today...managed to pickup a raw W514 Cicotte on ebay...excited to finally finish that subset. :)

Congrats Brian and very nice looking Jackson you have there

Thank you Jeff! :)

The raw Cicotte has to go thru that new ebay "authenticator" service, so I probably won't see it for a couple weeks unfortunately.

The Jackson has some staining on the back, but the front shows very well. Was able to pick that up in the BST section, which was great since I don't see them come up for sale too often.

9th Man Out
 

While I have sold and cosigned most of my cards, I still have (and just picked up a 1912 Zeenut) my Joe Gedeon cards

How about the ball used in Game 5, one of the thrown games!

Nice! We just emailed about that ball a couple weeks ago. :)
Cool to see a pic of it!

Have a good amount of the Black Sox as this is what I primarily collect, but thrilled to pick up this one last night. Been chasing this card for 8+ years. Now only if I can locate that McMullin with tab.

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Congrats Epps on the pick up its a great card! (one of my cosigned cards...probably should have worked out a deal here!)

I decided to go after the 1916 and won that one

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I don't know if it's fact or fiction that Comiskey promised Cicotte a $10,000 bonus if he won 30 games but it's not in the contract. The contract says he is to receive $952.50 a month so around $6500-$7000 for the season? Baseball Reference states his salary for 1919 was $9075.00 the losers share for the world series that year was $3254.36 I don't know if that is included in the Baseball Reference Salary.
It also says he was paid $5000 for 1917 & 1918 plus a $2000 bonus for 28 wins in 1917 but it doesn't say anything about a bonus for the 29 wins in 1919.



https://www.greyflannelauctions.com/...-LOT47570.aspx

Felsch & Cicotte
 

Picked up two recently...overpaid for the Felsch I think but that happens sometimes...nice looking 1916 M101-4 Felsch (blank back) and a nice looking 1920 W519 Cicotte

1915 Zeenut Burns
 

Just picked up this rare one at Sterling Auction

I'm not a Black Sox collector, but here's a few more common cards that I don't think are posted yet.

Jeff, I love seeing your Jackson collection, awesome stuff.

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Nice looking Zeenut. I like how the 1915 Burns looks in comparison to the 1917, because on his 1917 card Bill's face is completely in shadows.

Brian (card not mine)

I actually love the 1917 Burns and it is my favorite Black Sox card...I wrote a little something about it once
https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2020/...ack-gold-card/

great cards and great thread

keep it coming

Trio of Jackson game cards...National, Tom Barker, and Polo Grounds.

https://i.ibb.co/8xGRwvY/IMG-E3186.jpg

the ringleader
 

two local issues, including the rookie:

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Here's Sleepy, with somebody else's glove!?

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1671211877

Lefty
 

Lefty is a tough one, I'd love to see what you got! Hugh High seems like a stand-up guy, despite having played for the Yankees, so it's just this one and a W514 in my Pete Rose lunchbox....

Lefty
 

just saw this one, awesome, my collection is exclusively 'as White Sox' but eventually I will move on to the beautiful Zeenuts

In keeping the theme of Lefty and also the sharpest PSA 2 that I have ever seen

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Thanks Epps, that standard biscuit Lefty is a thing of beauty. My collins-mccarthy is indeed off center upwards, but it doesn’t bother me and I think great for the grade. The tango eggs Weaver/Tinker mixup is sharp too, but it’s a gross violation of the childish ‘good guys’ vs ‘bad guys’ approach I bring to my Cubs and Black Sox collecting. 🤣🤣🤣

One of my fave pick ups of "22....(as previously shown) and a boomerang from my first collection.

Done with a trade, no less.

I got mine when they first came out in I believe 1989 or 1990. They were printed on heavy parchment type paper and were numbered to 1500, and were printed from the original plates (that were supposedly destroyed after the print run).

Technically not a Black Sock, but Attell was the alleged fixer and operator arranging the game rigging and so he seems to mean to qualify for the thread.

Here's all 4 of his T219 cards, if I'm allowed to play with Attell.

Nice Attell cards. I believe 3 are actually T218, while the slightly narrower one is a T219.

Brian

Talkin "Black Sox " guys....show your Tobacco, Candy, etc. cards of those "involved"
 

Abe Attell was the "bag man" for New York gamblng gangster Arnold Rothstein. Attell supposedly gave $10,000
to several Chicago White Sox players to "throw" the 1919 World Series.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...8x49%20_2_.jpg

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Printed and issued in 1948 ---------------------------- Printed and issued in 1949


TED Z

T206 Reference
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All 4 are actually T219's. There are 4 backs in T219, Honest Long Cut with black ink, Honest Long Cut with green ink, Miners Extra, and Red Cross. It is seldom noted, but the Red Cross cards are physically smaller than the other 3 versions, and crop the images even further than the other 3 backs crop the T218 pictures.

Here's the full family, all 9 possible Attell's of this image. Mecca 30, Mecca 649, Hassan 30, and Hassan 649 series 1 backs, above his C52 series 1 card. All 4 T219's on the right.

My error...I guess I was fooled by the Red Cross. It is nice to see all the versions from the two sets, and a good visual to see the cropping differences between the sets.

Brian

I pulled a sneaky on you by including the mini mini Red Cross ;). Some of the Red Cross cards don’t look nearly as good as the others because the cropping starts to interfere with the picture and not just trim fat off the background like it does for Dishonest Abe here.

hap
 

I will flash some Felsch:

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the Collins-McCarthy is a blank back.

Smiling George
 

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Knuckles
 

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That's a beautiful Collins & McCarthy Cicotte!

Jeff, very nice cards of "Black Sox" players. Is this one of your major collecting focuses?

Jo Jo
 

3 1/2 years ago I traded a 1915 Cracker Jack Jackson SGC 4 for my dream card and I told myself I can always get another CJ Jackson… then the prices went up. And up. And up. Gulp!!! And up. Well, I had several consignments in REA’s last auction and I was able to get this one.

8 W514 BlackSox


https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1672425602

M113s of Jackson and Collins

Nice W514 Black Sox cards Frank. I especially like how card #121 of McMullen snuck in there too. I haven't seen that before...were other aftermarket cards besides McMullen issued as well?

Brian

That #121 of McMullen was custom printed by a Net54 board member, and I bought one from him. In my binder I have the W514s in 15 pocket sheets; 1-120 fit in 8 sheets, except for those pesky players who have cards for 2 teams. There are 4 of those players... so in the 9th page goes #121 McMullen, then 3 of those extra cards for the guys with 2 cards for their 2 different teams. I lack the extra card for Bancroft, I don't have his New York Giants card. I'll eventually find one.

Normally I'd have the different versions of a player adjacent to each other... but I like how there's 1-15, then 16-30, then 31-45... It makes it easy to find a card.

Hint on the source of #121 McMullen... Moustache

very very nice M113 Jackson

Hard to find.

Eddie

Here is the 1915 Zeenut Fred McMullin/McMullen

some more mug shots of the horrible perps:

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I picked up a t206 Eddie Collins yesterday to go with my t205. I always thought this would make the coolest side by side image.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...809074b9_b.jpg

Not sure this is altered but definitely short....One of my few 19th century cards.

https://luckeycards.com/pn172comiskey.jpg

Did Happy Felsch have a series associated With Brooklyn called "'The Knothole Gang' back in the 50's? As a kid growing up, I remember such a show, particularly since I was a rabid Dodgers fan.

I looked it up, and there was a gentleman by the name of Happy Felton that had a pre-game show involving the players and kids named Happy Felton's Knothole Gang.

So close, but no Felsch cigar.

Brian

Unique Wares back

Beautiful!! :eek:

Talkin "Black Sox " guys....show your Tobacco, Candy, etc. cards of those "involved"
 

Hal Chase was considered a controversial figure in the "Black Sox" scandal. This factor prevented him from being in the HOF.
Chase vehemently denied being involved.


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T206 Reference
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Here are cards of all "Eight Men Out." Seven cards from the 1919 set and the elusive only card of Fred McMullin.

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Sporting News
 

I believe this to be fairly unique??

That's cool!
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I just posted the full story on this acquisition today under the Vintage Memorabilia section, but I'd be remiss if I didn't add a photo to this thread.

1919 World Series program from Game 1

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1685043779

I read the story. This is so ****ing cool. Awesome story. Go Reds!

Thanks! I was pretty happy to finally walk away with it.