Originally Posted by t206kid (Post 2172086)

Prices were definitely stout. Seems like a lot of the goofy stuff that went nuts has come back down to earth, and the truly cool stuff is still doing great.

I got the Cy Broad Leaf 460 and T206 Honus ad.

Originally Posted by mouschi (Post 2172017)

I was merely a spectator this round, mainly trying to get some sort of comps on a few cards of mine, and I was pleased all the way around!

Here is what I was watching:

1909 T206 Cobb Green PSA 2 - $8,700
1910 E90-2 Wagner SGC 1.5 - $10,200
1915 CJ Cobb SGC 2 - $27,000
1915 CJ Jackson SGC 3 - $52,800 (I seem to get buy requests on this card weekly)

The biggest one that I was biting my nails on was the 1899 M101-1 BVG 2.5 Wagner rookie. It was low teens until later on in the last day, finally fetching $38,400. This is nearly triple what it did when it last sold in 2015, esp. when you take into account the tax paid on this vs. no tax paid back in 2015.

My M101-1 Wagner (though BVG "A") is the nicest looking copy of it I've seen, and ever since I picked it up a year or two ago, it has been that one piece that I always figured had the potential to be a chart topper of some sort. I think future sales will prove me right - it is definitely on the right path! Definitely one of those pieces when I show people, they 1) don't know what it is and 2) are shocked that such a beast exists!

While I would've been much happier with a 100k sale, I'm happy the bvg 2.5 came close to 40k. Such a cool, cool piece!

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2172028)

Great pickups everyone. Seems like the really great stuff is as strong as ever.

I really like the M101-1 Sorting News Supplements. Not too many of each player out there. I would love to have a Young.

Your Beckett Authentic example is a great looking card, but it is kind of hard to declare it the “best” when it has been restored. I thought that one one in REA was a really nice example and is the only unaltered example that I am aware of.

Originally Posted by canjond (Post 2172171)

I also can't agree more with you about the CJ Jacksons. I average about 5 "would you sell it" requests per month, although most of the unsolicited offers I get on mine are circa 2015 prices. Go figure!

Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2172188)

I agree wholeheartedly on both the National Copper Plates (actually predate the Sporting News and the real rookie) and the M101’s, these are simply gorgeous cards when seen in person in nice condition. I have each of the Wagners in my sets of these, the Copper is bound in the original booklet in near perfect condition. The Sporting News is also in strong condition but has some minor wear on close inspection. Both are entirely unaltered.

I am sure it exists, but I have not seen another national copper plate wagner at all in my 33 years of collecting.

They are my favorite sets in my collection.

Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2172194)

I was astounded at the CJ15 price in this auction. It was centered but has some big creases it seemed. Impressive. Hard to tell online all of the details on the cards.

I see fewer CJ Jacksons for sale lately, helping prices when they do come up. Great card.

Originally Posted by DeanH3 (Post 2172142)

Landed a small score. However, I feel like a big winner considering the value growth of my current collection.

The 4 on 1 Exhibits have been growing on me. They have relatively low pop count.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=32257

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 2171981)

Cobb Dietsche fielding (PSA 3) starting to get some love $ 49,200, but still way below the T206 Green PSA 5.5 Cobb at $ 81,000. Cobb's are red hot, a lot of Detroit collectors out there.

Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2172188)

I agree wholeheartedly on both the National Copper Plates (actually predate the Sporting News and the real rookie) and the M101’s, these are simply gorgeous cards when seen in person in nice condition. I have each of the Wagners in my sets of these, the Copper is bound in the original booklet in near perfect condition. The Sporting News is also in strong condition but has some minor wear on close inspection. Both are entirely unaltered.

I am sure it exists, but I have not seen another national copper plate wagner at all in my 33 years of collecting.

They are my favorite sets in my collection.

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2172193)

Those are beautiful. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the National Copper Plate Wagner predates the M101-1 Sporting News? Both were issued in 1899, correct?

I know that the National Copper Plate cards were issued 1898 and 1899 and the M101-1 Sporting News cards were issued weekly during the 1899 and 1900 seasons, but it seems as though both Wagners were issued in 1899. The M101-1 actually has the exact date of August 19, 1899 printed on it while the National Copper Plate has just 1899 noted.

There has been a National Copper Plate Wagner for what seems like years. I wish that it fit in my collecting budget.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13216270408...QAAOSwIWVY9VvV

REA also had a real nice bound near set several years ago that had a really nice Wagner in it.

Originally Posted by canjond (Post 2172171)

I was the underbidder on the '15 Cobb CJ. I can say (from my own perspective) that I was bidding about $7k over what I thought the value for a '15 CJ Cobb "2" was based on the eye appeal of that Cobb. I think the same can be said for that Jackson - it was a stunner for the technical grade.

I also can't agree more with you about the CJ Jacksons. I average about 5 "would you sell it" requests per month, although most of the unsolicited offers I get on mine are circa 2015 prices. Go figure!

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 2172193)

Those are beautiful. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the National Copper Plate Wagner predates the M101-1 Sporting News? Both were issued in 1899, correct?

I know that the National Copper Plate cards were issued 1898 and 1899 and the M101-1 Sporting News cards were issued weekly during the 1899 and 1900 seasons, but it seems as though both Wagners were issued in 1899. The M101-1 actually has the exact date of August 19, 1899 printed on it while the National Copper Plate has just 1899 noted.

There has been a National Copper Plate Wagner for what seems like years. I wish that it fit in my collecting budget.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13216270408...QAAOSwIWVY9VvV

REA also had a real nice bound near set several years ago that had a really nice Wagner in it.

Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2172370)

I acquired the Wagner in that REA lot. I say it predates it because of the player selection difference in the two sets, with Anson and Hoy and others in the copper Plate and then not in the Sporting News, so I am assuming earlier players vs later players despite them being around the same time. I think you can look up the full set lists elsewhere but i could make a more thorough comparison. I think the standard catalogue shows the national copper plate as earlier. Could do more work on that!

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 2172372)

Red Sox cabinet was a favorite in the auction, congrats!

Originally Posted by mouschi (Post 2172331)

Those Wagners are absolutely MAGNIFICENT! My gosh, man ... not just having one ... but both ... and sets? :eek::eek::eek: Yowza x 1000!



I think the general consensus is that Copper Plates were released before the Sporting News version, but your mention on both showing 1899 is something that frankly escaped me until you said something - great catch!

In any event, I still think that Copperplate somehow provided this artwork to Sporting News, which in turn, used it for their purposes, so mayhaps National Copperplate is a few months earlier than the Sporting News version? I don't think anyone would knock the Sporting News as being his rookie for that, though.

In any event, I would place them both as his rookie, with Sporting News being perhaps more desirable given the Sporting News pedigree, how it was released only for one day, and no holes. Maybe that's just me though, and heck, who on earth would complain about one over the other? It'd be like complaining about a Lamborghini having a slightly different shade of red :)

Originally Posted by puckpaul (Post 2172388)

Thanks. For accuracy, i must correct the Sporting News description, the Wagner had been folded vertically so it is creased down the middle by his shoulders, more noticeable on the left side than the right. The photo i uploaded from my phone didn’t remind me of that detail, but in reviewing on my larger computer again I saw that. sorry about that. It still has no stains or tears and presents beautifully, but I like the correct info to be out there.

Originally Posted by LincolnVT (Post 2172349)

Have we tricked ourselves in to thinking that certain cards are rare if they are pretty much available in every major auction offering? The only thing that has changed in recent years is the price that people are willing to pay...the cards with low populations are still available. Trade, yes...but hard to justify being a buyer for the blue chip stuff right now in my opinion...unless you sell what you have for a pile of money and then buy what you want for a pile of money.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2172497)

Rare cards are not selling in every auction, high demand cards are. Rarity and Demand do not always match up. I have several truly rare (under 5 known examples) cards I would swap for more mainstream cards of the same players. My cards 'should' be worth more, and they might be if I auctioned them off, but they might also not be and finding that out would make me sad, so I keep them.

Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 2172371)

We always talk about REA's fast shipping, but the auction just ended Sunday night after midnight, and it's less than 36 hours later and the item I won is at my door. Love it!

1912 Red Sox spring training cabinet

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2172678)

I also have gravitated towards more obscure, rare issues as compared to the more common...such as goudey, t206 over the years. Recently I've been trading some of these rarities for their more common counterparts...having been frustrated by the appreciation of the commoners as of recent past.

But it seems to me a shift is occurring towards these more scarce cards as the hobby matures and pop reports are a more commonly used metric of a cards value.

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2173678)

My winnings arrived today. Someday rare E's...and D's...and T's...will be worth more than their t206 counterpart...in my dreams!!!!!