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ullmandds 11-29-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Santo10Fan (Post 2169640)
Compared to the 1952 Topps Mantle, there's ample evidence that green Cobb is much more rare, as expected. 970 Cobbs compared to 1806 Mantles in the PSA record. I'd bet there's more demand for 52 Mantle but maybe demand for Cobb is finally working on that gap. Either way, there's a strong case to be made that it was undervalued pre-pandemic and likely still is.

As for volatility, the good news is those of us who migrated from crypto were looking for a safe haven in the Hobby. I can't speak for the firms that formed in 2020 and started buying up Hobby standards from all sports, but I'm sure they will look to manipulate the market just like they do with bitcoin. The key will be recognizing when the sell-offs take place. It seemed like one took place last summer but I really wouldn't know.

id surmise the pop report is grossly skewed as t206 cobbs are likely to have been graded by SGC whereas 52 mantles are more likely to be graded by psa.

Foo3112 11-29-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson (Post 2169421)
People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

You sound like a complete prick and then when I read about what others have to say about you, it appears I’m correct. Appears you don’t have many friends here. Please follow the advice of others and just go away.

Santo10Fan 11-29-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2169641)
id surmise the pop report is grossly skewed as t206 cobbs are likely to have been graded by SGC whereas 52 mantles are more likely to be graded by psa.

571 is the Cobb number I got from SGC database, compared to 569 for Mantle. So that bumps the overall gross ratio up to nearly 2:1 in favor of surviving Mantles vs. Cobbs, 2375 to 1541. Still impossible to ever know the real numbers I suppose

Exhibitman 11-29-2021 05:33 PM

How many collectors do you know with raw 1952 T Mantles vs. with raw T206 Cobb green portraits? In my admittedly small circle I know of several collectors with raw T206 sets and only one with a raw 1952T Mantle.

Touch'EmAll 11-29-2021 06:05 PM

The last Heritage auction had a 1949 Bowman Paige PSA 8 go for $30.k - Wowzer! And it was centered between 65/35 and 60/40 side/side. And with slight brown toning. Elevator up !

Eric72 11-29-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2169664)
How many collectors do you know with raw 1952 T Mantles vs. with raw T206 Cobb green portraits? In my admittedly small circle I know of several collectors with raw T206 sets and only one with a raw 1952T Mantle.

I wonder how many of those Cobbs were cracked out of cases. It seems (to me, at least) more likely than a '52 Mantle getting sprung from plastic prison.

Eric72 11-29-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo3112 (Post 2169644)
You sound like a complete prick and then when I read about what others have to say about you, it appears I’m correct. Appears you don’t have many friends here. Please follow the advice of others and just go away.

To be fair, this reply of yours wasn't much nicer.

Hxcmilkshake 11-29-2021 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by nineunder71 (Post 2169193)
The answer is Trevor Bauer and DeShaun Watson, that’s what’s gone down! :D

I see what you did there...

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todeen 11-29-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2168717)
Many many posts about price inflation, wild speculation, investors pushing prices higher and higher, crash coming, etc.



Tell me something that has gone down in price in the last two years. Just curious.

According to VCP, the Butterfinger Babe Ruth has decreased in price. It had surged over $1000, but was averaging $750 as of August.

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Foo3112 11-30-2021 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2169693)
To be fair, this reply of yours wasn't much nicer.

That would be a fair assessment. Anywho, I'm over it. I guess that's just how good ol' Glyn Parson speaks. Moving on back to the subject of cards...

Carter08 11-30-2021 08:25 AM

The e93 Cobb I wanted on REA has decidedly NOT gone down in price. Above where I was hoping it would end with 6 days to go. Sigh.

mrreality68 11-30-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2169799)
The e93 Cobb I wanted on REA has decidedly NOT gone down in price. Above where I was hoping it would end with 6 days to go. Sigh.

Great Card and you are right the price is strong on that card already and that REA auction has alot of strong prices.
No showing of any dips in pricing to buy

Eric72 11-30-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Foo3112 (Post 2169774)
That would be a fair assessment. Anywho, I'm over it. I guess that's just how good ol' Glyn Parson speaks. Moving on back to the subject of cards...

It takes all kinds to make this board go 'round. There are a few who come straight at you.

Some people go the backhanded compliment route, some insist on getting the last word in, some try to gloss over their rudeness by attempting to redirect attention...

egri 11-30-2021 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2169903)
It takes all kinds to make this board go 'round. There are a few who come straight at you.

Some people go the backhanded compliment route, some insist on getting the last word in, some try to gloss over their rudeness by attempting to redirect attention...

Pot, meet kettle. :D

Eric72 11-30-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by egri (Post 2169916)
Pot, meet kettle. :D

LOL. Guilty as charged. :)

Tao_Moko 11-30-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2169690)
I wonder how many of those Cobbs were cracked out of cases. It seems (to me, at least) more likely than a '52 Mantle getting sprung from plastic prison.

I can account for at least one Cobb.

JollyElm 11-30-2021 07:50 PM

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I rarely sell anything, but in looking to help pay for rotator cuff surgery this summer, I put up a pretty nicely centered PSA 4 Nolan Ryan rookie card for sale. In the post I showed the last group of sales for PSA 4s, which was basically these amounts...

Attachment 490415



The offers were lower than I wanted, so I decided to hold onto it. For the heck of it, I recently checked what PSA 4s are going for these days, and I had to take the elevator to the basement...

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That's a steep decline. Yowza!!!!

glynparson 12-01-2021 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2169903)
It takes all kinds to make this board go 'round. There are a few who come straight at you.

Some people go the backhanded compliment route, some insist on getting the last word in, some try to gloss over their rudeness by attempting to redirect attention...

I just tell it like it is and if you don’t like that I truly don’t care. Not here to massage your fragile egos. After my health concerns I truly quit caring what fools and idiots think of me.

jsfriedm 12-01-2021 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2169990)
I rarely sell anything, but in looking to help pay for rotator cuff surgery this summer, I put up a pretty nicely centered PSA 4 Nolan Ryan rookie card for sale. In the post I showed the last group of sales for PSA 4s, which was basically these amounts...

Not so surprising, since the Ryan rookie is by far the most graded vintage card.

bnorth 12-01-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson (Post 2170080)
I just tell it like it is and if you don’t like that I truly don’t care. Not here to massage your fragile egos. After my health concerns I truly quit caring what fools and idiots think of me.

I think you are a complete AH on a good day but also sincerely hope you have completely recovered from your battle with Lyme Disease. It took a very good friend of mine.

nineunder71 12-01-2021 08:34 AM

Yeah, and Koosman is way down.........


JK :p



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Originally Posted by jsfriedm (Post 2170100)
Not so surprising, since the Ryan rookie is by far the most graded vintage card.



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