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JollyElm 06-09-2022 02:59 PM

This one is quite similar...

566. Crock and Pull Story
Someone joyously posting a card in the new pickups thread with a story about how excited he is to finally have one and it took forever to finally pull the trigger, etc...then a few scant days go by and you see he has the card for sale in the B/S/T section.

brianclat11 06-09-2022 07:10 PM

Qualifiers
 
I simply do not understand why others care what is done with cards after they are sold. Clearly, they are not giving the cards away for free and have reached what they consider to be a fair deal. What is the accepted timeframe for holding a card before the person you bought if from being "ok" with you letting it go? This mentality seems ridiculous to me. With all of the knowledge and positivity that I get out of this site, there is some judgement and negativity here that sours things.

Everyone has their reasons for what they collect, move, trade etc....If you are going to assume you know my motivations and pass judgement after selling a card, please list that as a qualifier on BST. I don't want to buy from you. I love this site want to believe that most enjoy the hobby and are not out to make a quick dollar off of someone else here.

Isn't it hypocritical to actively sell on this site and then judge someone else for what they do with the card that you just sold. It doesn't really matter if it is 5 days or 5 years since you sold them the card. Once it changes hands, then be happy with your sale and wish the other person well.

My 2 cents....

Jewish-collector 06-09-2022 07:30 PM

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Seller: Let me figure out what I have into it
Buyer: I don't care what the hell you have into it
Attachment 520377

Casey2296 06-09-2022 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brianclat11 (Post 2232823)
I simply do not understand why others care what is done with cards after they are sold. Clearly, they are not giving the cards away for free and have reached what they consider to be a fair deal. What is the accepted timeframe for holding a card before the person you bought if from being "ok" with you letting it go? This mentality seems ridiculous to me. With all of the knowledge and positivity that I get out of this site, there is some judgement and negativity here that sours things.

Everyone has their reasons for what they collect, move, trade etc....If you are going to assume you know my motivations and pass judgement after selling a card, please list that as a qualifier on BST. I don't want to buy from you. I love this site want to believe that most enjoy the hobby and are not out to make a quick dollar off of someone else here.

Isn't it hypocritical to actively sell on this site and then judge someone else for what they do with the card that you just sold. It doesn't really matter if it is 5 days or 5 years since you sold them the card. Once it changes hands, then be happy with your sale and wish the other person well.

My 2 cents....

I don't disagree to an extent, where I see the difference is in acquiring cards for your PC from another selling from his PC in a private sale or trade. These types of transactions come with trust, respect, and integrity that is established over a period of time and if you turn around and sell it the next week after stating it's for your PC will not sit well and you'll probably burn the relationship because you lied. Is there a time period to wait before you move the card in that context? Yes, for me it's 12-18 months. I'm always transparent in my dealings like this, if I'm working a 3 way trade I'll let everybody know who is involved and what the goal is. If acquiring for a friend, I'll state that. There's a strata of collectors, many of them here that do business this way and its very rewarding and fun dealing with them.

Eric72 06-09-2022 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianclat11 (Post 2232823)
I simply do not understand why others care what is done with cards after they are sold. Clearly, they are not giving the cards away for free and have reached what they consider to be a fair deal. What is the accepted timeframe for holding a card before the person you bought if from being "ok" with you letting it go? This mentality seems ridiculous to me. With all of the knowledge and positivity that I get out of this site, there is some judgement and negativity here that sours things.

Everyone has their reasons for what they collect, move, trade etc....If you are going to assume you know my motivations and pass judgement after selling a card, please list that as a qualifier on BST. I don't want to buy from you. I love this site want to believe that most enjoy the hobby and are not out to make a quick dollar off of someone else here.

Isn't it hypocritical to actively sell on this site and then judge someone else for what they do with the card that you just sold. It doesn't really matter if it is 5 days or 5 years since you sold them the card. Once it changes hands, then be happy with your sale and wish the other person well.

My 2 cents....

If the exchange was purely transactional in nature, sure. If the other party lied about getting the card for their PC and then quickly sold it for a profit, that would bother me.

The lie would bother me.

This community is better than that.

Bigdaddy 06-09-2022 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2232863)
If the exchange was purely transactional in nature, sure. If the other party lied about getting the card for their PC and then quickly sold it for a profit, that would bother me.

The lie would bother me.

This community is better than that.

Agree. It's not the flipping after the transaction, it's the lie during the negotiation.

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-10-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish-collector (Post 2232827)
Seller: Let me figure out what I have into it
Buyer: I don't care what the hell you have into it
Attachment 520377

To be fair, the seller doesn't care that you don't care. It's important to him.

Johnny630 06-10-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2233049)
To be fair, the seller doesn't care that you don't care. It's important to him.

Both Are Ploys To Get Sympathy and a Psychological Advantage.


It’s basic poppycock lol it’s all good either :-)

Mark17 06-10-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2233056)
Both Are Ploys To Get Sympathy and a Psychological Advantage.


It’s basic poppycock lol it’s all good either :-)

I think it makes sense for people to want to sell things for more than what they paid. If I buy something for $800, and later am able to get another one that's an upgrade, I'll probably sell that first one for $900 and be left with a good feeling. Making a (small) profit is good, and it means buying it in the first place wasn't a mistake.

But selling it for $700 means I'm going in the wrong direction, I made a poor original purchase, and I do not have a good feeling. So instead, I'll keep it for now and hopefully sell later for at least $900.

So, yes, it's psychological for sure, but selling things for more than you pay is also basic Econ 101.

Johnny630 06-10-2022 04:42 PM

Sometimes people make mistakes and pay to much for an item they’re trying to resell. Yes ECO 101 is relevant to the seller and buyer, making a profit for the seller is nice. That being said just because seller maybe have paid more than he should have for an item doesn’t mean that mistake be passed on to the next buyer who maybe a little more shrewd in it’s value.

It’s all psychological, some people Can’t take a 10-25% loss. They always have to make a profit. I’d rather sell it move on and learn. You win some you lose some.

ullmandds 06-10-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2233076)
Sometimes people make mistakes and pay to much for an item they’re trying to resell. Yes ECO 101 is relevant to the seller and buyer, making a profit for the seller is nice. That being said just because seller maybe have paid more than he should have for an item doesn’t mean that mistake be passed on to the next buyer who maybe a little more shrewd in it’s value.

It’s all psychological, some people Can’t take a 10-25% loss. They always have to make a profit. I’d rather sell it move on and learn. You win some you lose some.

YES!!! You can’t win em all!!

Mark17 06-10-2022 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2233076)

It’s all psychological, some people Can’t take a 10-25% loss. They always have to make a profit. I’d rather sell it move on and learn. You win some you lose some.

This is one approach. Lose a few dollars here, but make it up on a different transaction elsewhere.

But the way baseball cards and memorabilia has been trending, another way is to just hold onto it for a while until the market rises to your price.

Johnny630 06-10-2022 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2233078)
This is one approach. Lose a few dollars here, but make it up on a different transaction elsewhere.

But the way baseball cards and memorabilia has been trending, another way is to just hold onto it for a while until the market rises to your price.

Agree :-)

Peter_Spaeth 06-10-2022 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2233076)
Sometimes people make mistakes and pay to much for an item they’re trying to resell. Yes ECO 101 is relevant to the seller and buyer, making a profit for the seller is nice. That being said just because seller maybe have paid more than he should have for an item doesn’t mean that mistake be passed on to the next buyer who maybe a little more shrewd in it’s value.

It’s all psychological, some people Can’t take a 10-25% loss. They always have to make a profit. I’d rather sell it move on and learn. You win some you lose some.

If I decide to sell something, I'll take what I can reasonably get for it, what I paid is pretty much irrelevant if I overpaid and can't recoup it.

Johnny630 06-10-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2233080)
If I decide to sell something, I'll take what I can reasonably get for it, what I paid is pretty much irrelevant if I overpaid and can't recoup it.

That’s the way I feel about it.


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