Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2133168)

Look at this listing

“YOU CONTROL THE MARKET”

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38432058610...cpOdRFr8gLQAIY

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2133171)

Yes post 51 above.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2133171)

Yes post 51 above.

Originally Posted by Tabe (Post 2133180)

You, too, can control the market by buying 4% of the supply at (at least) 2.5x the going rate!

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2133181)

I just want to control the horizontal, and maybe on a good day the vertical...

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2133184)

Outer Limits reference I presume.

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2133188)

coupled with a dash of truth lol.

Just realized I should use the "control the market" line on the Rose Brand Cy Young. Only problem there is, it's actually true!

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2133184)

Outer Limits reference I presume.

Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 2132573)

One sold last night 180 k dropping like flies

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2132922)

PWCC said it's the best Jordan 10 they've every had in their possession. To some, perhaps to most, that is meaningless. But to others, that means everything. PSA doesn't have a "black label" premium 10 like BGS does, but if they did, just imagine what the single most sought after card in all of basketball would sell for at auction. The buyer is a well known collector with an insane collection worth countless millions of dollars. It's a real sale. Some people just want to overpay to be #1. This guy is one of those people. He thinks this is the best Jordan rookie that exists. It is what it is.

As far as other Jordan 10s go, I have seen numerous slabs of these where there's no way it would get a 10 today if cracked and resubbed. The ones that are listed on eBay in perpetuity are often of this ilk. Most collectors know that those are really just 9s in a 10 holder, so they avoid them or they sell for quite a bit less. Not all 10s are the same, and in the high-end market the variance in sales price is extremely wide, just like it is with vintage baseball. I pointed out recently that in that exact same PWCC Premium Auction there were two 52 Mantles that sold, one was a 1.5, the other was a 3.5. The 1.5 sold for MORE than the 3.5 because of eye appeal. How do you explain that? It's not because the 1.5 was shill bid up. I know because I bid on the 1.5 myself. I was the 2nd highest bidder on it. It's the same thing with the Jordan RC. It's all about perception and eye appeal. You can say the guy was conned by the PWCC "Superior" sticker and provenance story of it being the only PSA 10 that PSA has given on a Jordan RC in over a year, or the inside stories about the graders at PSA calling everyone in to check out the card when it was there because they said it was the best one they'd ever seen and that there was video footage of it being pulled from the box. Maybe all that stuff is just nonsense marketing, but it mattered to some people and those people paid through the nose for it. The buyer is happy. I say let him be. No need for the conspiracy theories here.

Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2133231)

To each their own but PWCC telling me it is the best they have handled means nothing and is nothing more than a means to push a card...most likely one they have an interest in too. If the buyer is happy, that is all that matters but PWCC's designation and proclamations are BS. He has sold a lot of Jordan 10s over the years but this one was the nicest? OK. I need a little more than that but if that is good enough for you, party on.

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 2133252)

The notion that anyone could sell a dozen or so PSA 10s of the same card and then declare that this is the best 10 we’ve ever sold is so asinine it defies any response. 10s by their nature are supposed to be essentially flawless. But this one here? That’s the most flawless of all.
I’m sorry but that’s comical.
I mean that sounds like the sort of thing you’d hear some confidence man say in some movie set in 1880 trying to pass off a phony Diamond ring to some rich old lady. And you’d laugh at the absurdity of it.

Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2133231)

To each their own but PWCC telling me it is the best they have handled means nothing and is nothing more than a means to push a card...most likely one they have an interest in too. If the buyer is happy, that is all that matters but PWCC's designation and proclamations are BS. He has sold a lot of Jordan 10s over the years but this one was the nicest? OK. I need a little more than that but if that is good enough for you, party on.

Originally Posted by maniac_73 (Post 2133314)

I still cant tell the difference between a 9 and a 10 and the cost between them is nothing but an elaborate marketing scheme to me.

Originally Posted by GregC (Post 2133320)

I couldn't agree more, but now we are lucky enough to have the people taking a vig on the sale of the 10's telling us which 10's better than other 10's lol. The image of Arthur Fonzerelli on some water skis comes to mind.

Originally Posted by GregC (Post 2133320)

I couldn't agree more, but now we are lucky enough to have the people taking a vig on the sale of the 10's telling us which 10's better than other 10's lol. The image of Arthur Fonzerelli on some water skis comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Tabe (Post 2133377)

Who are you to doubt the integrity of a company that created a tool to bypass sales tax laws and looks the other way at shill bidding?

:)