We're really seeing that with all the cards being given to the PWCC Vault, are we not? People are perfectly willing to buy cards and never take possession of them or look at them, apparently. Just assets.

Indeed. Nature of the 2021 hobby beast, I suppose.

On the flip side, no pun intended, there has been an influx of younger collectors lately. For many years, I heard that the hobby was going to die because nobody collected except old guys.

There probably isn't someone who exactly meets that criteria however there are enough similar situations in terms of hobby frauds and serving time to provide guidance. Convictions might not have been for hobby fraud and hobby frauds might not have been convicted.

how long were you locked up for?

Fair enough but I agree someone could probably overcome a conviction for hobby fraud in the current atmosphere.

Luckily, we have a criminal justice system which metes out punishment rather than a bunch of yahoos with a lynch mob mentality. Am I hearing that you don’t believe in the criminal justice system? Having said that you have a right to deal with whomever you choose. Just accept that others can also decide for themselves. I just find it interesting that people are getting agita because Mastro dared to enter the sacred grounds of the National but these same people have no trouble dealing with documented shill bidders who never were punished for their crimes.

I would not say a single word in defense of Mastro, but you could pick 20 people off the floor of the National who have done just as much or more damage to the hobby, that is if you consider altered cards a bad thing.

+1, hanging is not enough for some.

Agreed 100%

To correct an earlier post, Bill Mastro is not from Chicago or the Chicago Area. He is from Bernardsville NJ. About 30 Minutes from New York City.

[QUOTE=Peter_Spaeth;2130790]I would not say a single word in defense of Mastro, but you could pick 20 people off the floor of the National who have done just as much or more damage to the hobby, that is if you consider altered cards a bad thing.[

Peter, are you willing to out the 20? I believe collectors should know who they are dealing with.

Let's All Be Friends and Get back to basics.

Share your pictures of your cards from NATIONALS (I did not go but Here is a card)

[QUOTE=Yoda;2130901]Majority already know - they ain't stupid.

Jeffrey-You are taunting the haters. That card image looks exactly like a young Bill Mastro.

Not sure if the Feds got involved, but a dude did get arrested for stealing cards at the National last week.

https://youtu.be/T4O3nV3Gssw

Podsada walks.
https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...JW0_JI6ncnu_Jg

Not surprised he got off
Surprised how long it took to let him off
and his punishment is to pay back the $300 he to from the person he sold the fake item to

Makes it easy for those who chose to do wrong

Simply amazing

So on the one hand some are saying he's been cracked and resubbed, and hopefully goes from ?auth to a number...

And others would have it be like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYJmFOxNew0