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swabie2424 03-15-2021 11:30 PM

I dislike PSA 6+++ guy.

Uhm.... it’s a 6.

But, but, but... “Looks like an 8! Great eye appeal!”

Uhm... it’s a 6.

But, but, but... “Great centering!”

Uhm... it’s a 6.

WillBBC 03-16-2021 08:25 AM

New one.

'LeBron James RP PSA 10??'

Go away.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 03-16-2021 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robw1959 (Post 2081613)
How about the seller who tells you that they must list their raw card as a reprint per eBay rules.

That's usually the description that they implore you to "READ" in the title!

BillyCoxDodgers3B 03-18-2021 10:06 PM

What about "PSA Ready"? If it's so ready, why not send it in yourself if you're that concerned about it getting a high grade? Any card is "PSA Ready".

Casey2296 03-18-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWakefield (Post 2080333)
Well dinosaur that I am, I didn't know that eBay sellers can't leave a negative. That surprises me a bit, it sure creates a problem for a nonpaying buyer.

So sellers, what are you going to do when you message a buyer about leaving feedback first, and he responds with a message that he's got the card and satisfied/happy with it?

Still, I think the seller leaves feedback first. And if they don't, I feel held hostage.

Back when I was last selling stuff, I recall leaving feedback for the buyer when I got back from the post office having mailed the item. Maybe today's buyers aren't as reliable as they were 15-20 years ago.

"Reliable" seems a luxury nowadays Frank. Life was so much easier and simpler for everyone when they conducted themselves with integrity.

pbspelly 03-19-2021 06:41 AM

I know some people don't see this as a problem, but I get really tired of folks putting items for sale on eBay at prices that no one is ever going to pay. There is a photo of my great grandfather Billy Sullivan on ebay that is worth at most $40-50. It has been listed at $299 for years now. No one is ever going to pay that. Due to my family connection, I am typically willing to pay higher prices for Sullivan memorabilia than other folks, and there's no way I'd pay $299. At least not until decades from now when inflation makes $299 worth what $50 is worth today. If you want to sell something, sell it, but don't use eBay as a place to display your collection.

I really wish eBay had tried harder to incentivize sellers to list items at auction with low starting bids, and then let the market decide the value. That was one of the original intents of the eBay founder Omidyar. He saw it as a way to make markets for used goods and collectibles much more liquid and efficient, so that the market could set the price. I used to sell vintage telephones on eBay. I often had little idea how much they were worth. I'd start them at $9 and let the market tell me. They typically sold for anywhere from $80-200. But eBay moved away from that, and now a lot of sellers don't trust the eBay auctions to give them a fair price. If I were eBay, I would try and figure out a way to require that after a certain period of time, the seller would be incentivized (or pressured) to let the market determine the price. Maybe start charging progressively higher listing fees or something. If you just want to post pictures of your collection go elsewhere.

vintagechris 03-20-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Throttlesteer (Post 2079842)
Best Offer guy that puts an auto rejection to an offer of 90% the BIN.


Yes!! This guy. Literally just had a guy with BIN of $29.99 OBO. Card can be had for $20-25 if you are patient. This one is a littl nicer condition than the average one that sells. I offer $20 Auto declin. I offer $22. Auto decline. I offer $25. Auto decline. I offer $27 and the offer is sent to seller. He comes back with a counter of $28:mad::mad: Really, man?!!! Why not just post the card for sale at $28?

Popcorn 03-20-2021 07:33 PM

Any same state local buyer guy. Wants to meet up for a quick sale but you tell them you will ship it and it takes a week+ for them to get it.

In the meantime they just message you complaining they could have had it the same day.

Getting threats that it could be damaged, lost or what not.

I hate same state pick up guy.

Eric72 03-20-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Popcorn (Post 2083599)
Any same state local buyer guy. Wants to meet up for a quick sale but you tell them you will ship it and it takes a week+ for them to get it.

In the meantime they just message you complaining they could have had it the same day.

Getting threats that it could be damaged, lost or what not.

I hate same state pick up guy.

Tell him to pick the card up from his mailbox after USPS delivers it.

:D

Exhibitman 03-21-2021 08:34 AM

Mr. Helper. The guy who insists on PMing you after the sale is done to tell you how badly you undersold your BIN. Actual exchange I had with a Mr. Helper a few days ago:

Mr. Helper: You listed wayyyyy too cheap!

Me: Well then I guess you really missed out.

Mr. Helper: I sure did. Got any others?

Me: No.

Mr. Helper: LOL. For future that was probably a $3-$5000 card.

Me: Would you pay $5000 for it?

Mr. Helper: Nope I already have 2.

Then it isn't worth that, now is it?. Makes you want to remind him of one of manhood's most important rules:

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Jim65 03-21-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2083722)
Mr. Helper. The guy who insists on PMing you after the sale is done to tell you how badly you undersold your BIN. Actual exchange I had with a Mr. Helper a few days ago:

Mr. Helper: You listed wayyyyy too cheap!

Me: Well then I guess you really missed out.

Mr. Helper: I sure did. Got any others?

Me: No.

Mr. Helper: LOL. For future that was probably a $3-$5000 card.

Me: Would you pay $5000 for it?

Mr. Helper: Nope I already have 2.

Even worse are the assholes who try to steal a legitimate buyers win by offering the seller more.

thecatspajamas 03-21-2021 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2080365)
I used to collect GU bats. Bat tubes, bought in bulk, cost about $4.00. When I would sell a bat and ship in a bat tube, I taped the end caps on to ensure the item (the bat) arrived without damage. Rather put tape residue on a $4 tube than risk damage to a $300 bat.

I run into this issue from time to time with baseballs that I sell, which I ship in a ball cube for protection. I have received a negative feedback from a buyer before because that ball cube had a sticker on it.

Another time, a ball cube arrived cracked, but the ball inside was fine: in other words, it did exactly what it was intended to do, in that it protected the ball from what had to have been horrible abuse of the package (it takes a lot to crush a 6"x6" shipping box). The buyer confirmed that the $10 ball itself was unharmed, but demanded that I ship him a replacement ball cube. When I let him know that I had sold him a ball, not a ball cube, and that he could return the ball for a refund but that I would not be shipping additional packing materials to him, he left me a neg.

All that is to say that, especially on eBay, you cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time. If a buyer has a reasonable criticism of my packing / shipping methods that they would like to voice, I am happy to take it under consideration, and in some cases have adjusted my packing methods. Simple adjustments like adding "courtesy tabs" at the ends of tape used on otherwise new materials so that they can be reused, or not taping polypropylene comic bags to a piece of corrugated cardboard due to the material's tendency to rupture rather than stretch, leaving the book exposed if the package is severely jarred. Those kinds of "huh, I never thought of that, but it makes sense" adjustments I can make. It's the ones where I would have to purchase an entirely new category of shipping supplies, spend significantly more time packing, or spend more on postage than anticipated that I just have to politely decline. Given that many (most?) collectors have very specific ways that they like to store their collectibles, I'm also not going to tailor my shipping materials to try and meet those many and varied long-term storage requirements. If the buyer wants to reuse the shipping materials for storage (or for their own shipping), that's perfectly fine by me, but if I want to get into selling specific collectible storage supplies then I'll set up a separate category for that in my eBay store.

And for what it's worth, while I'm sure that all of the above sounds overly curmudgeonly of me, I do generally ship small card-sized or smaller flat items (whether cards or more often negatives and transparencies) in a penny sleeve inside a toploader inside a team set bag. Typically. And largely out of convenience and minimizing packing time for me while also ensuring the item arrives safely to the buyer. The toploader may be scratched or have a label on it, the penny sleeve may have a label on it, the team set bag will generally be new simply because I use them for shipping not for storage on my end. They're probably also going to get the plastic strip from the team set bag adhesive in there, and the strip off of the stay flat mailer that I ship all of the above in. If any of the above is useful or repurposed by the buyer upon receipt, that is wonderful, but my primary concern is getting them their purchase in the same condition it was in when it left my hands, all in the most economical (in time and $) manner possible. It's a balance, and may not please everyone (hence the occasional neg feedback), but seems to be well-received overall.

sycks22 03-21-2021 10:10 PM

I always love when people say "cash is king" or tell me they're giving me "cash money". I'm pretty sure paypal / zelle / venmo are money as well, maybe I'm wrong.

BobbyStrawberry 03-21-2021 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagechris (Post 2083589)
Yes!! This guy. Literally just had a guy with BIN of $29.99 OBO. Card can be had for $20-25 if you are patient. This one is a littl nicer condition than the average one that sells. I offer $20 Auto declin. I offer $22. Auto decline. I offer $25. Auto decline. I offer $27 and the offer is sent to seller. He comes back with a counter of $28:mad::mad: Really, man?!!! Why not just post the card for sale at $28?

I once made an offer on a "$95 BIN obo" and the seller countered with....wait for it...$94.75.

earlywynnfan 03-22-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2084021)
I once made an offer on a "$95 BIN obo" and the seller countered with....wait for it...$94.75.

I'll counter you: I had an item listed for $10 and got an offer for $9.80. I accepted and tipped my hat to his chutzpah.

bnorth 03-22-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sycks22 (Post 2084020)
I always love when people say "cash is king" or tell me they're giving me "cash money". I'm pretty sure paypal / zelle / venmo are money as well, maybe I'm wrong.

Yes but cash does not leave a trail for taxes. As buyers we are conditioned by the dealers/sellers to offer cash "to save everyone some cash" like PP FF but better.

vintagechris 03-22-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry (Post 2084021)
I once made an offer on a "$95 BIN obo" and the seller countered with....wait for it...$94.75.



Update: I couldn't help myself and asked the guy why not just list it at $28 if that's the price you want? He decided to raise it to $34.99. LOL It's his card and everything and he can do whatever he wants but I just don't get people who think $5 is worth leaving a bad impression on a potential customer who could spend more than that $5 in the future.

Gorditadogg 03-23-2021 10:52 AM

How about that ebay guy that comes over to BST and starts scamming?
 
We all know that ebay guy who lists cards for 10 times what they are worth. I hate that guy but I hate it even more when that guy comes over to BST to do the same thing.

A little foreshadowing: I didn't know it at the time, but this guy has a fairly obscure SGC 5 card up on ebay for $165 OBO. A PSA 7 of that card just sold for $60 earlier this month, so you might figure his card is worth $20-25.

This guy also has a listing on BST right now for some low grade cards that are more or less fairly priced. So I bought one and he asked me what else I was interested in, because he was "selling off his collection". He sent me a scan of some cards, including his SGC 5 card and I asked what he wanted for it. (It was a front office exec for a team that my aunt's family once had ownership in. I thought I could show it to her and see if she remembered him.)

How about $190? he said. (Yes, more than what he is asking on ebay!)

I am so annoyed by that ebay/BST guy. Most of the members here are a pleasure to deal with, when a scammer comes around here it is a pain.

Exhibitman 03-23-2021 11:00 AM

Speaking of shipping, I hate:

--The guy who wrecks a perfectly good card saver or toploader with tape, especially the one who tapes the entire opening of a card saver with scotch tape. It is just such a waste. Use the blue tape, people.

--The guy who doesn't seal the top of a toploader at all. Blue tape, team bag, even a folded over post-it will work. I had to send back a nice card a week ago because the jackhole who sold it shipped it in an unsealed toploader and when it got to me it had slipped out of the holder and picked up a nicely dinged corner.

--The guy who puts a card saver or top loader into a padded envelope without a stiffener, and especially the one who sticks a packing peanut in there too. What kind of moron thinks that is going to make it to the customer without damage? Ever see a 1960 Leaf baseball pack? The damn marble just tears through the wax paper.

--The guy who mummifies the card holder in tape. I appreciate the sentiment but if I have to resort to a knife to open the holder you are not protecting the card, you are making it more likely that I will damage it trying to open it.

Tripredacus 03-23-2021 12:55 PM

Long time ago I used to sell items starting at 99c with a reserve but then put the reserve price in the description. :D

I never did quite understand the point of a reserve price, with the exception that you were selling an item to see if it would sell, or would only sell if it reached a certain price. AKA, not a run of the mill item or something that didn't really mean anything to you. Otherwise, you'd just start the auction at the lowest price you'd sell it for. But of course, especially with an auction website that you can sort things by, you can get more eyeballs onto an item by setting a low starting bid.

JollyElm 03-23-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorditadogg (Post 2084568)
We all know that ebay guy who lists cards for 10 times what they are worth. I hate that guy but I hate it even more when that guy comes over to BST to do the same thing.

A little foreshadowing: I didn't know it at the time, but this guy has a fairly obscure SGC 5 card up on ebay for $165 OBO. A PSA 7 of that card just sold for $60 earlier this month, so you might figure his card is worth $20-25.

This guy also has a listing on BST right now for some low grade cards that are more or less fairly priced. So I bought one and he asked me what else I was interested in, because he was "selling off his collection". He sent me a scan of some cards, including his SGC 5 card and I asked what he wanted for it. (It was a front office exec for a team that my aunt's family once had ownership in. I thought I could show it to her and see if she remembered him.)

How about $190? he said. (Yes, more than what he is asking on ebay!)

I am so annoyed by that ebay/BST guy. Most of the members here are a pleasure to deal with, when a scammer comes around here it is a pain.


From my 'Collectorisms' thread: :D
"See also: Trolesaler - a person who’s a member of this site for no other reason than to take advantage of the free access to the B/S/T and hawk their exorbitantly priced cards."

Jim65 03-23-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2084571)
Speaking of shipping, I hate:

--The guy who puts a card saver or top loader into a padded envelope without a stiffener, and especially the one who sticks a packing peanut in there too. What kind of moron thinks that is going to make it to the customer without damage? Ever see a 1960 Leaf baseball pack? The damn marble just tears through the wax paper.

People do this because if a envelope isn't at least 1/4" thick, its not eligible for tracking. A few packing peanuts solves that problem.

vintagechris 03-23-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2084571)
Speaking of shipping, I hate:

--The guy who wrecks a perfectly good card saver or toploader with tape, especially the one who tapes the entire opening of a card saver with scotch tape. It is just such a waste. Use the blue tape, people.

--The guy who doesn't seal the top of a toploader at all. Blue tape, team bag, even a folded over post-it will work. I had to send back a nice card a week ago because the jackhole who sold it shipped it in an unsealed toploader and when it got to me it had slipped out of the holder and picked up a nicely dinged corner.

--The guy who puts a card saver or top loader into a padded envelope without a stiffener, and especially the one who sticks a packing peanut in there too. What kind of moron thinks that is going to make it to the customer without damage? Ever see a 1960 Leaf baseball pack? The damn marble just tears through the wax paper.

--The guy who mummifies the card holder in tape. I appreciate the sentiment but if I have to resort to a knife to open the holder you are not protecting the card, you are making it more likely that I will damage it trying to open it.

Man I agree with all of these. I'll add the guy who sends a graded card in a flimsy bubble mailer with no extra bubble wrap or padding to protect the card. I'm shocked that people send $800 cards this way!

D. Bergin 03-23-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim65 (Post 2084743)
People do this because if a envelope isn't at least 1/4" thick, its not eligible for tracking. A few packing peanuts solves that problem.


Yeah, I never understood that. 1/4" inch isn't that much. between a couple pieces of cardboard and the surrounding packaging and you have yourself an easy 1/4" inch. Anyways, I think if you go deep enough into the handbook, you find an "or"..................as in 1/4" inch.........or........the package is a rigid.

Been shipping that way with tracking for over 20 years without an issue. 1000's of packages.

Well.............maybe one. Over 10 years ago, I think an overzealous clerk sent a package back to me with that 1/4" inch notation, from around the Philadelphia area. Went and dug up in the handbook the full definition of the dimensions of package tracking for 1st Class Mail, brought it back to my branch office, and they just threw it back in the system and it eventually got where it was going.

bnorth 03-23-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 2084785)
Yeah, I never understood that. 1/4" inch isn't that much. between a couple pieces of cardboard and the surrounding packaging and you have yourself an easy 1/4" inch. Anyways, I think if you go deep enough into the handbook, you find an "or"..................as in 1/4" inch.........or........the package is a rigid.

Been shipping that way with tracking for over 20 years without an issue. 1000's of packages.

Well.............maybe one. Over 10 years ago, I think an overzealous clerk sent a package back to me with that 1/4" inch notation, from around the Philadelphia area. Went and dug up in the handbook the full definition of the dimensions of package tracking for 1st Class Mail, brought it back to my branch office, and they just threw it back in the system and it eventually got where it was going.

We have a lady that sometimes fills in at our PO. She thinks it is her duty to try and fold your bubble mailer in half.

Eric72 03-23-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 2084792)
We have a lady that sometimes fills in at our PO. She thinks it is her duty to try and fold your bubble mailer in half.

Sellers should keep an image of that person in mind when packaging things for shipment. If they did, far fewer items would arrive damaged.

todeen 03-23-2021 08:01 PM

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We have a lady that sometimes fills in at our PO. She thinks it is her duty to try and fold your bubble mailer in half.

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Sellers should keep an image of that person in mind when packaging things for shipment. If they did, far fewer items would arrive damaged.

Newman....

Frankish 03-24-2021 02:23 PM

These are excellent. So many hit home!

One that really peeves me is people who secure a top loader to the inner surface of the shipping envelope so that you have to cut the envelope open on three sides to extract the card without risking it.

D. Bergin 03-24-2021 04:40 PM

I got a card in from the U.K. the other day. Card was fine, but I needed a literal scalpel to get the card out of the top loader-ish plastic it was in, it was covered in so much heavy duty tape.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 03-24-2021 06:00 PM

Buyers who ask for healthy discounts because they have to pay to have the item authenticated and shipped to the TPA. So, you expect me to foot all these costs?! It's your choice to have the material authenticated, not mine. I know what I'm selling is genuine and don't require a TPA to say it is. (In most cases, the material in question doesn't magically become worth more just because of the slab it's in or the sticker that's slapped on it.)

Eric72 03-24-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCox3 (Post 2085159)
...In most cases, the material in question doesn't magically become worth more just because of the slab it's in...

The market, in general, disagrees with this statement.

The "magic" can be quite dark and evil, though, in my opinion.

sportsnut25 03-24-2021 07:28 PM

An issue for modern items but an ebay PITA for me ....

Title/Description: "blah blah blah BRAND NEW!!! SEE PICTURES!!!"

Pictures: Ding here, ding there, tear here, ripped there :rolleyes:

Gorditadogg 03-24-2021 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2084696)
From my 'Collectorisms' thread: :D

"See also: Trolesaler - a person who’s a member of this site for no other reason than to take advantage of the free access to the B/S/T and hawk their exorbitantly priced cards."

That's the guy!

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Eric72 03-25-2021 12:45 PM

The eBay "guy" who puts "CENTERED" in the title...and the card is 80/20 or worse.

jayshum 03-25-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2085416)
The eBay "guy" who puts "CENTERED" in the title...and the card is 80/20 or worse.

I saw a listing for a card I was interested in that had a MC qualifier and in the listing title, it said Great Centering.


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