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johnlenhardt 03-03-2021 06:25 AM

New PSA Prices
 
Hi Team,

I have never sent in cards for PSA grading, but have thought about it. Sounds like you have the pricing down. Can you give me the lowdown on lets say I wanted to send in 10 cards for grading. What would be the rough estimate cost per each card? Thanks for the guidance. John

steve B 03-03-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jcosta19 (Post 2076005)
Ahhhh Casino..I was thinking some very dark off screen moments from Field of Dreams.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Field of dreams, only in the same field as Children of the Corn?

Has anyone got a connection at Sci-Fi? That could be as big as Sharknado
:D

insrman 03-03-2021 12:08 PM

Any opinions or what thread to look for on SGC VS PSA
 
I have 10 cards that are SGC 88, 92, 96 that I was going to send to PSA for crossover. With the recent change at PSA I can not do this, plus one school of thought is just to crack and send in. Any opinions out there? The one's that will qualify for Swinging 60's special of $9 I will crack that are <$100. NOt sure what to do with my SGC >'70 cards that are $100-500 in value?

Thanks for advice or where a thread might be.

insrman 03-03-2021 12:09 PM

I am a novice and just did my first submission in Jan..
 
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Originally Posted by johnlenhardt (Post 2076124)
Hi Team,

I have never sent in cards for PSA grading, but have thought about it. Sounds like you have the pricing down. Can you give me the lowdown on lets say I wanted to send in 10 cards for grading. What would be the rough estimate cost per each card? Thanks for the guidance. John

I am a novice and just did my first submission in January. It appears the new cost would be $23+/- per card with shipping back and forth cost factored in; higher if the card value exceeds $499. Other's might add more to this comment. All the best,

rats60 03-03-2021 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2076114)
If you submit a card and pay based on an expected grade of lets say a 6 - they will upcharge you if it happens to grade higher, but I have never heard of them reducing the charge if the grade came in lower - wouldn't that make the pricing model a whole lot more fair??!!

I have had cards grade higher and not be up charged. For example, I sent in an OPC Lemieux RC and it came back a 9, no upcharge.

TobaccoKing4 03-03-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 2076287)
I have had cards grade higher and not be up charged. For example, I sent in an OPC Lemieux RC and it came back a 9, no upcharge.

How would you value a card with no sales history? I just purchased two rare cards (one uncatalogued) and have no idea what to input for the stated values.

DanP 03-04-2021 05:46 AM

Value
 
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Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4 (Post 2076436)
How would you value a card with no sales history? I just purchased two rare cards (one uncatalogued) and have no idea what to input for the stated values.

I’m not sure this is the correct answer, but I would value them as what I would want to receive from an insurance claim if they were lost or damaged during the PSA submission process.

Directly 03-04-2021 06:18 AM

A Pokémon collector told me he sends cards bought in PSA holders to Beckett grading due their slabs being studier, and clearer. He claims CSG holders are better in those respects too.

So are PSA slabs really 100 percent better slab product for the money ?

I can't see how some PSA cards are graded 9's not being a 10's or visa versa, can you?==PSA doesn't break down the grades for corners, surface, edges or centering??

Republicaninmass 03-04-2021 06:37 AM

IS there some sort of monetary increase if you have the "#1 psa set" over and above the total value of the cards?

I've always thought yes, but I could be wrong, I been once or twice!

johnlenhardt 03-04-2021 02:37 PM

New PSA prices
 
Thanks Reed that helps.

conor912 03-04-2021 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2076546)
IS there some sort of monetary increase if you have the "#1 psa set" over and above the total value of the cards?

I've always thought yes, but I could be wrong, I been once or twice!

I’m just spitballing here, but my guess would be no, and that anyone buying the #1 set would break it for resale. There would only be a premium over the sum if someone wanted to buy it to keep it/upgrade it, and I’ve never seen it happen. Not to say it doesn’t, but this would be my inclination.

ejharrington 03-05-2021 10:02 AM

I understand PSA's decision. They are a business trying to maximize their profits. Their reputation is also being harmed because they have been grading altered cards and not meeting expectations with respect to turnaround times, in large part due to a massive backlog.

This price increase will ensure profitability while almost certainly reducing backlog. I have accumulated about 20-30 lower value cards over the past 2-3 years that I was planning on sending in this year (likely through the Memberships, which are currently sold out). Clearly, I cannot do that now. I can't be the only one in that boat.

I expect (and hope) that, once the current backlog subsides, they have implemented the investments in people and technology needed to meet current demand.

Of course, SGC or the new company could use this as an opportunity to take away some of their business. For example, they could offer to crossover PSA Set Registry cards (assuming they pass muster) that would allow customers like me to switch over. I'm not holding my breath however.

bobbyw8469 03-05-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ejharrington (Post 2077015)
I understand PSA's decision. They are a business trying to maximize their profits. Their reputation is also being harmed because they have been grading altered cards and not meeting expectations with respect to turnaround times, in large part due to a massive backlog.

This price increase will ensure profitability while almost certainly reducing backlog. I have accumulated about 20-30 lower value cards over the past 2-3 years that I was planning on sending in this year (likely through the Memberships, which are currently sold out). Clearly, I cannot do that now. I can't be the only one in that boat.

I expect (and hope) that, once the current backlog subsides, they have implemented the investments in people and technology needed to meet current demand.

Of course, SGC or the new company could use this as an opportunity to take away some of their business. For example, they could offer to crossover PSA Set Registry cards (assuming they pass muster) that would allow customers like me to switch over. I'm not holding my breath however.

Meanwhile, across the street, SGC just raised their prices as well.

https://gosgc.com/

Fred 03-05-2021 11:15 AM

Pretty soon the price of the slab will be worth more than the actual card it encapsulates.

Sellers will be selling PSA slabs. Who's gonna care about the card? :p

conor912 03-05-2021 12:33 PM

If I owned SCG I would he offering free crossover for cards above a certain $ amount. If you want to seriously compete, you need to do whatever it takes to get notable cards into your slabs and then use that as a leveraged talking point to draw in more clients, starting from the top down.

bobbyw8469 03-05-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2077085)
If I owned SCG I would he offering free crossover for cards above a certain $ amount. If you want to seriously compete, you need to do whatever it takes to get notable cards into your slabs and then use that as a leveraged talking point to draw in more clients, starting from the top down.

Unfortunately, they chose a different path.

Fred 03-05-2021 01:43 PM

PSA is the "gold" standard for collectors and registry collecting. People will gladly pay for the label/slab than the card.

If we took a poll, I'm going to guess that at least 80% of the people on this board would say that PSA encapsulated cards will sell for more than most other TPG graded cards.

It's like people have pointed out, PSA has people throwing money at them. Until/unless that stops, they'll keep following the supply/demand principle of jacking up prices until it's no longer viable to jack up prices.

Jayhawke 03-06-2021 06:58 AM

Imagine the prices at shows. Same day $200? We’ll have something new to complain about.

Oscar_Stanage 03-06-2021 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2076734)
I’m just spitballing here, but my guess would be no, and that anyone buying the #1 set would break it for resale. There would only be a premium over the sum if someone wanted to buy it to keep it/upgrade it, and I’ve never seen it happen. Not to say it doesn’t, but this would be my inclination.

I am not sure many set collectors are going to buy a complete set and keep it. Set collectors typically want to cull the set together themselves, the journey itself is the attraction.

swabie2424 03-06-2021 09:25 AM

Obviously what I’m about to write is utter nonsense and will never happen - nor am I being truly serious, but there’s one simple step that’d alleviate all this nonsense if PSA really put collectors/“the hobby” first.

Stop all modern/ultra modern submissions. No grading any cards manufactured in say the past seven years. As of 1/01/21 collectors can submit their 2014 stuff. Lol. How many “quick flip” submissions does that kill? All of them. Plus so many less junk slabs down the line. It would return this whole space to a finer time in my opinion.

Then return everything to the same price. A card is a card is a card. This whole pay more to grade a more expensive card nonsense is laughable. One of the greatest money making artificial pretenses of all time.

P.S. I actually have no problem with people flipping and the current evolution of the hobby. The flippers, speculators and investors have been an interesting dynamic and always existed at some level. It’s just on steroids now. Everyone has the right to play the game the way they see fit. PSA included. They have long since become a golden goose that’s too big to fail.


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