1952 topps
 

Which one is the RED back and which is the BLACK back ? ?


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TED Z

T206 Reference
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Black left, red right.

One of the oldest major leaguers still alive.

https://i.imgur.com/aQMUvznl.jpg

I agree.

1952 topps
 

Otis and Jay
You guys are the smart ones. I'd bet anyone, that you guys could go thru the entire 1st Series cards (80 pairs),
and tell us which colors the backs are printed with, without flipping over the cards.




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TED Z

T206 Reference
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https://drive.google.com/uc?export=d...IpDh8Gkmb-mlFI https://drive.google.com/uc?export=d...PhgZtcEiplro1N

I'll start the day with the first Marsh cards.

Marsh
 

My copy.

And my Fred Marsh.

#9
 

Would love to upgrade my Hogue if someone has a copy in better shape available. :)

2-for-1 today since I'm playing catch-up, having missed #8 yesterday. So here are Marsh (red) and Hogue (black).

Here's mine.

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Here are my 2. Both Black backs. The second one I purchased had top corner pulls which I didn't see when I purchased it. :o

Is this from a display for the 1952 Topps cards or something else? Are there other cards with backs like this one?

I'll answer for, Al, since I'm here, and tell you this is a salesman copy, which, of course, is/are fairly rare.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7165-50832.s

Thanks. I had not seen them before, but I haven't been looking for any 52 Topps cards for quite a while. Any idea how many different cards there are that were issued as a salesman copy?

I have a 3 card, consecutively numbered, but cut panel I can post when we get to those cards. I think Anthony may have an uncut panel that I can ask him to post. I try for a Salesman Sample and unopened pack for each set. I think the Salesman Samples for Topps run 52-67

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You're a day early with Phil. Don't forget about Mr. Rosen.

Rosen
 

My copy. Love the red background.

The PSA Registry lists 491 cards in a 1952 Master set and 550 in a Super set. The additional cards involve hobby recognized variations front or back, and the Super set include the rare "Canadian" gray backs 131-180.

In 2013 Huggins and Scott auctioned what they called a Super set ay 579 cards. The additional cards were mostly recurring print defects. A check list of that set is in the link below. It includes a Rosen variant beyond the red and black backs, as the black back can be found with or without a pink slash around the cap. Jeff actually posted one of the pink slash versions above.

Here is Huggins and Scott link to Super checklist
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...0ZuZgWXpfXjGo-

My two different black backs

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I wasn't aware of that, Al. Thanks for sharing.

Here's my copy, again with a top right corner pull which I see quite often with this card. :(

Is one of the Rosen black back variations known to be less common than the other?

Here's my Rosen. One of the first few 52s I picked up when I started working on my low # run many years ago. Looks like it might be one of the pink slashers (never heard of that so-called variation til now so thanks for that info ALR).

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...52-terwilliger

I've never met a Terwilliger I didn't like.

In fact I've never met a Terwilliger.:eek:

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1952 TOPPS cards
 

Hey Guys,

Meet my nearby-neighbor..... "The Scooter".

Phil's home was 2-blocks from our home in Hillside, NJ. Phil was a really great neighbor, he would join us kids when we were playing BB
at the ball field at St. Catherine's School back in the 1940's - 1950's.
He would pitch to us, give us advice on how to play the game, plus tell us stories about any Ballplayers, which we would ask him about.
It was a tremendous joy to have Phil with us.



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TED Z

T206 Reference
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Picked this Rizzuto up recently.

https://photos.smugmug.com/1952-Topp...22BCD3C0-L.jpg

My Phil.

Shooting for well centered, VG cards. Despite PSA's opinion!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c8f3f858c6.jpg

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Beautiful cards! I like how you posted this at 12:02 in the morning. 👍

Phil
 

Here is my copy.

Holy cow!

Here are my Phils. My stars from the set tend to be lower grade.

Here is mine

#12 -- Basgall
 

My copy. Love seeing everyone's cards. I've been really enjoying these daily posts.

Has been fun! Great idea

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And my black back version of Monty Basgall.

It's players like this that I know make some people reluctant to collect complete sets. Why spend money for a card of someone you have likely never heard of? However, it's something I always found interesting. When I was working on my run of Topps sets, there were many players from the 50s and 60s I never heard of who I found in 5 or more sets so they had to have been decent players to make it in the majors for that long (especially when there were only 20 teams) even if they never became household names.

What I have found, just like what you have said above, is that some players, although not HOF's, were/are fan/team favorites.
While amassing my 52's, on many occasions, I'd come across a card/player who seemed to command a premium over another player so that got me researching as to why? Outside of the hard to find centered copies, variations, etc, it was fun to find out some of these players had real good careers and/or had some baseball history to them that I never knew about.
That is a side to the collecting, outside of thinking only about the ROI, etc, that makes collecting so much fun.

The one card where that really stood out for me was a 1968 Joe Sparma. When I started working on the 1968 set many years ago, he was listed in the Beckett price guide along with the other stars and minor stars. I had never heard of him so I asked a dealer I was friendly with why. His response - he's a 1968 Tiger and they are very popular since they won the World Series so his card has a premium to it.

Here's my black back Romanus

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And to start today off, Mr. Wyrostek.

1952
 

My copy.

Great centering on that one Dale. Here's mine:

Here's mine.

Thanks, Dave. :)

I think I got lucky finding that one.

Elliott
 

Nice cards folks. Here is my Elliott.

And my Bob Elliot, which I believe is a black back?

My Elliotts

Here's Bob Elliott to catch me up for yesterday, and Pesky for today. Both are black backs.

Pesky
 

Love this card.

My Peskys

And here is my Mr. Pesky.

Gene Hermanski. :)

https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...y_Original.jpg https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...y_Original.jpg

Gene
 

My copy.

The horizontal cards display much better in the 8 pocket sheets than the vertical ones do, but unfortunately, there aren't too many of them.

Black back Hermanski, acquired long before good centering was really a thing.

That's true about most of my set. I remember when I was working on it, I was fine with anything as long as there wasn't part of another card showing.

Pesky and Hermanski are about as o/c as I go on the front but I do have a couple of cards with miscut backs. Most of my worst o/c cards are ungraded, being from the early days of building my 1-310 run. While I tend to look for good centering on stuff I buy now, these don't bother me a bit because I have the nostalgia of where, when, and from whom I got them since they were mostly obtained at shows or shops.

More recent additions are less personal, as they came from online auctions or ebay but are graded and better centered too. About 1/4 of my 52s are slabbed and average 5.5 (none with o/c qualifiers).

52 Topps
 

I too have a large condition range in my 1952 Topps cards. I was handed down about half of the set this year when a very dear friend / father figure of mine passed away unexpectedly. He loved baseball and cards as a young boy...and got me in to collecting. I have pledged to complete the set in his honor as he loved his 52 cards the most. For that reason, my set will always include his cards reguardless of condition.

I completed my set before grading was as prevalent as it is today so none of the cards in it were ever graded. However, I can guarantee none of them would get close to a 5.5.

Same here. :o

...and the player listed on the back was not different from the guy on the front.

No, wait ... that would not be so bad either

Here's my #17 Jim Hegan red back to kick things off on Friday

Hegan
 

My copy. Happy Friday.

First One I Have
 

Ive been patiently waiting for this thread to reach the first card I have. I just started the 1952 set in November. Have only gotten 35 so far - it's a long term journey. Thank you to everyone else for showing yours off, I've really enjoyed this thread so far.

Good luck with your journey, Brad. It's a great set to collect, imo.
Enjoy.

My Mr. Hegan.

Good luck on the set. There are often people listing cards from it on the board so you may be able to pick up some that way.

#18
 

My Combs.

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=v...rqyemagwwSyawj https://drive.google.com/uc?export=v...A7yNW64IkEKo4i

I'm beginning to think that Bob's set may be a little nicer than mine, but that's ok. :)

My #18

Two in a row for me.