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bounce 09-16-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 2017073)
What has happened there is as they create new issues it forces the the investment group to go out and find new pieces of art and thus driving up the value of the existing supply. As they can showcase that the value of the art they have already purchased has gone up it attracts new interest. I believe the same will hold true here. One of the primary reasons people want into cards so bad right now is they have done well. When guys like Justin Beiber are "flexing" their Pokemon collections on Instagram it makes others want them too. This in my view is why Gary V has had such an impact on the card market. I only keep up with a few people in the hobby and one used to post here and he has sold cards direcly to NBA players and has others contacting him on IG (Instagram) saying they want in.

Not being flippant, but is this not also potentially the "greater fool theory" at work?

Everything goes up, until it doesn't.

Dpeck100 09-16-2020 12:18 PM

In working with my compliance department this and future offerings will be more complicated than I realized. I have sent an email to Ezra to cancel my future investment in the card.

samosa4u 09-16-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 2018076)
In working with my compliance department this and future offerings will be more complicated than I realized. I have sent an email to Ezra to cancel my future investment in the card.

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ullmandds 09-16-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 2018076)
In working with my compliance department this and future offerings will be more complicated than I realized. I have sent an email to Ezra to cancel my future investment in the card.

sometimes you have to go through the process...I'm glad to hear it!

Rhotchkiss 09-16-2020 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 2018076)
In working with my compliance department this and future offerings will be more complicated than I realized. I have sent an email to Ezra to cancel my future investment in the card.

How so?

kailes2872 09-16-2020 06:02 PM

When I heard about this at first, I thought that it might be a good opportunity to dollar cost average my way into a big card. For example, A 52 Mantle might be $50,000 and have 1000 shares at $50 a share or something like that. I could buy 100 shares at $50 and then over time as the price went up, I could continue to buy share, i.e, the next 100 shares are $55 a share, then $60, all the way until I had purchased all of them and had the card for say $60,000 and it took my 4-5 years to buy up all of the shares.

I sent an email a couple of weeks ago to ask about this scenario asking if I would be able to eventually own all of the shares and when I did, could I take possession of the card.

I got this response:
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Hi Kevin - thanks for your interest, and apologies for the delay. Yes, you can continue to purchase stock in our offerings over time. You can also submit offers to acquire the entire asset outright.
Thanks,
Collectable

Since this thread began, I have realized a couple of things. First, we are talking super super high end cards like the 2.5 million PSA 10 '53 Mantle and not a $50,000 '52 Mantle. I also saw in the thread that they would only sell off 60% of the equity - so my quest to buy a high end card on glorified layaway over time couldn't happen even though they say you can submit to acquire the entire asset outright. There are a lot of things that seem good here in theory that would be tough to execute without issue. So, I will have to wait and watch on the sidelines to see how this develops and go back to my cookie jar as a way to save and put back for those elusive expensive cards.

BLongley 09-17-2020 10:44 AM

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samosa4u 09-17-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BLongley (Post 2018360)

Huh? MILLIONS of entries and Sean won? Wait, isn't he an employee at this company or knows these guys? I'm confused.

bobbyw8469 09-17-2020 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 2018412)
Huh? MILLIONS of entries and Sean won? Wait, isn't he an employee at this company or knows these guys? I'm confused.

I don't get it. Is this for real?

toppcat 09-17-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2018414)
I don't get it. Is this for real?

Only the SEC knows for sure.

BLongley 09-17-2020 02:35 PM

1953 Topps PSA 10 Mickey Mantle IPO on Collectible App a Game Changer
 
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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2018414)
I don't get it. Is this for real?



Yeah it’s real , Collectable posted it on their Instagram, definitely some good luck that he won. Sounds like he may have some cards he tried to list based on his comments, but he’s connected to Evan who I understand is involved with Collectable. And he certainly has been talking very positive about them , and has said “he’s in” , so maybe he owns shares of the 53T ... who knows , but he certainly seems to have some vested interest.

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Jcosta19 09-17-2020 03:34 PM

This explains the "millions" of entries and why someone who is so visibly promoting the app would be the winner, apparently that's how you get more entries. Smart contest from marketing perspective.

Looks like their 2nd offering today was a LeBron James rookie for 50K with max 5% investment and it sold out in 5hrs.

Still not for me, but wish any investors the best of luck.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8ca07a0dd2.jpg

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Econteachert205 09-17-2020 03:34 PM

This might very well be successful. Having said that I can remember what killed the fun of the hobby for me in the early 1990’s was the greed and the amount of greed I see now is pushing me away again.

slidekellyslide 09-17-2020 08:08 PM

What an unbelievable stroke of luck for Sean Bassik to win that contest. ;)

bounce 09-17-2020 08:13 PM

yeah, if you didn't know any better you might be suspicious of that outcome. :rolleyes:

swarmee 09-23-2020 08:44 PM

The apps are growing like cockroaches:
https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...yctyO-mWfrYPbI

Leon 09-24-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2020240)
The apps are growing like cockroaches:
https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...yctyO-mWfrYPbI

Oy vey

slidekellyslide 09-24-2020 05:32 PM

Can someone explain to me why they would put money into something that they can't get out of unless the majority owner decides to sell. What if he never decides to sell?

swarmee 09-24-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 2020429)
Can someone explain to me why they would put money into something that they can't get out of unless the majority owner decides to sell. What if he never decides to sell?

They have the plan to allow shares to be sold to others while the original asset is just sitting in the vault unsold.

slidekellyslide 09-24-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2020438)
They have the plan to allow shares to be sold to others while the original asset is just sitting in the vault unsold.

So you can sell to others who have already invested in the same card? Or new investors? Or both? And I'm assuming the share price never drops from the original investment price, but you'll just have to pay a commission fee to sell?

And let's say Mike Trout kills a hooker and his cards drop in value...can you sell at your same investment cost?

swarmee 09-24-2020 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 2020459)
So you can sell to others who have already invested in the same card? Or new investors? Or both? And I'm assuming the share price never drops from the original investment price, but you'll just have to pay a commission fee to sell?
can you sell at your same investment cost?

The price will float along with the demand for the shares. If the demand is higher and the share increases 30%, then the card market value would be computed at $3.5 million. If shares start dropping, you can still sell them at a lower price. But yes, you have to do them within the App; that's the exchange. So you can sell to anyone else who has the app installed, I would expect.
And surely there will be transaction costs. That's part of mining the most value out of this project.
Also, IMO, highly susceptible to pump and dumping.

slidekellyslide 09-24-2020 09:09 PM

Got it...thanks!

Lorewalker 09-24-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2020474)
The price will float along with the demand for the shares. If the demand is higher and the share increases 30%, then the card market value would be computed at $3.5 million. If shares start dropping, you can still sell them at a lower price. But yes, you have to do them within the App; that's the exchange. So you can sell to anyone else who has the app installed, I would expect.
And surely there will be transaction costs. That's part of mining the most value out of this project.
Also, IMO, highly susceptible to pump and dumping.

Alt and Colletable just seem like accidents waiting to happen for potential "investors". I just cannot see anything favorable taking place for anyone who is buying in. Whatever happened to the good old days of doing pack wars? This sh!t just got real.


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