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GasHouseGang 07-16-2020 05:01 PM

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I can add one more.

gonzo 07-16-2020 05:35 PM

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Jimmy Collins, Hassan 649 (and a couple of bonus Eddies)

orioles70 07-16-2020 09:07 PM

Gosh, a lot can happen when a guy goes to spend some time with his Mom on her 80th birthday. All kinds of nice cards get posted.

Well done gentlemen, well done.

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RCMcKenzie 07-16-2020 09:54 PM

Corridon
 
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Shown with the St. Louis Cardinals, the back describes Corridon's move to Buffalo between the 1910 and 1911 seasons. Would have been nice if they had made a Buffalo card for him.

orioles70 07-16-2020 10:05 PM

As eye appealing as the fronts are, I also really enjoy reading the backs...the language is so proper compared to today.


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trambo 07-17-2020 08:11 AM

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Otis....my man!

orioles70 07-17-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by trambo (Post 1999788)
Otis....my man!

I liked the reference

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t206fanatic 07-17-2020 08:56 AM

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Important to cross your T's

orioles70 07-17-2020 09:00 AM

Jeff, that's a sharp looking Crandall card

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orioles70 07-17-2020 09:03 AM

Criger is next...the last of our "C"'s

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tedzan 07-17-2020 07:01 PM

Jake Daubert
 
Jake Daubert grew up in the Pennsylvania coal mining region (not far from where we live). He was an outstanding 1st
Baseman. His batting and fielding performances were considered as the National League's equivalent of Hal Chase at
1st base.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...aubertT205.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SweetCap42.jpg




NOTE....... you are forcing us to follow your strict alphabetical order ruling. AND it's not working ! ! Only TWO T205 inputs today.
Members are losing interest in this game. The previous 3 games (T206 commons, T206 HOFers, T205 HOFers) were free-spirited
and were a lot of fun for all. Anyhow, now I am posting my Jake Daubert card out of order. Several days ago I posted my Bergen
card one short of its position on your list. You ignored it and posted your Bergen card. What are you, some kind of control freak ?
And, I won't be surprised if you ignore my Daubert card, too.



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orioles70 07-17-2020 08:32 PM

Here is the last of our "C"'s, Lou Criger...bring on "Bad Bill" Dahlenhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c881356a93.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b45238d050.jpg

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brianp-beme 07-17-2020 08:57 PM

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This is how I be doin' Dahlen. I can't wait until my Dahlen leads to the Doo' bros, Dooin and Doolan.

Brian

orioles70 07-18-2020 06:31 AM

Daubert was posted...so next is one of 6 brothers to play pro ball and 5 played in the majors...some of his team affiliations were Orphans, Beaneaters and Tip Tops...he also had an older brother that died under very unusual circumstances...coming to the plate, Jim Delahanty

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gonzo 07-18-2020 08:14 AM

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Delahanty Piedmont 42

gonzo 07-18-2020 08:28 AM

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And because I love this card and cards like it, Devlin Sweet Cap 42 red with a major miscut.

orioles70 07-18-2020 09:02 AM

Very interesting Devlin...I have never seen one miscut that badly

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tedzan 07-18-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 1999527)
I love seeing cards like Ted's Chase "border extends", which probably has another Chase above it on the sheet.

Hi gonzo

Have you seen evidence of T205 cards indicating they were "vertically Double-Printed (like the T206's were) ?

Check-out the back of my Eddie Collins card. Due to it's mis-printed back, it reveals to us that this Eddie Collins card was Double-Printed (horizontally).
Now, that's a new bit of information for us.

https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...smiscut50x.jpg . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...insWCbk50x.jpg


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gonzo 07-18-2020 11:40 AM

Ted, I always like seeing your Collins - it’s unique and helps tell the story of how these cards were made.

I believe that some backs were printed to repeat horizontally like your Collins open month Polar Bear. And some that were printed to repeat vertically, like the Devlin above.

I have never seen any case in which the same card was printed side-by-side _and_ adjacent vertically on the same sheet. (That is, 4 card parts visible, all the same card). But then again, I’ve never seen _any_ example of a T205 where I could see 4 identifiable card parts on the same card.

orioles70 07-18-2020 11:48 AM

Here is a nice Josh Devore Sweet Cap...the middle card of 3 Giants in a row...Devlin, Devore, and next up is Dickson...Dickson is an interesting inclusion in the set considering he had only pitched 29 innings in the majors at the time and started just 1 gamehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...48a814a27c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...bfbd90d65f.jpg

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tedzan 07-18-2020 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 2000133)
Ted, I always like seeing your Collins - it’s unique and helps tell the story of how these cards were made.

I believe that some backs were printed to repeat horizontally like your Collins open month Polar Bear. And some that were printed to repeat vertically, like the Devlin above.

I have never seen any case in which the same card was printed side-by-side _and_ adjacent vertically on the same sheet. (That is, 4 card parts visible, all the same card). But then again, I’ve never seen _any_ example of a T205 where I could see 4 identifiable card parts on the same card.


Thanx gonzo

Your scan of Devlin was not in your post when I started replying to you. Your Devlin is the first T205 vertically mis-cut card that I have seen. Really neat.

Whereas, there are many, many such T206's cards. Perhaps, by 1911, American Lithographic's Quality Assurance department had greatly improved.



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gonzo 07-18-2020 08:39 PM

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Dickson Polar Bear

gonzo 07-18-2020 08:40 PM

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And Donohue Cycle

t206fanatic 07-18-2020 08:53 PM

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Dooin, courtesy of the Leon collection

RCMcKenzie 07-18-2020 09:41 PM

Doolan
 
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Here's Doolan, and a quick word on the T205 Donohue White Sox card. It is a tribute card. As the back mentions, he was the Galveston Sand Crabs manager in 1911. His last full season with the Sox was 1908. In 1909, he played 2 games for them.

trambo 07-19-2020 05:09 AM

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One of the Dougherty cards

Eggoman 07-19-2020 06:01 AM

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The OTHER Dougherty Card!

orioles70 07-19-2020 06:42 AM

Super nice cards guys...I only have a few Polar Bear and Cycle backs so nice to see them...thanks for posting

Here are the rest of the "D"'s to follow Dougherty

53)Thomas DowneyReds

(54)Larry DoyleGiants

(55)Hugh DuffyWhite Sox

(56)Jack Dunn Baltimore

(57)Jimmy DygertAthletics

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gonzo 07-19-2020 12:21 PM

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Downey, American Beauty black ink

RCMcKenzie 07-19-2020 12:35 PM

Doyle
 
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P42 and AB green

orioles70 07-19-2020 12:38 PM

Here is Hugh Duffy with a Hindu backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e2278fb1f7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ebfd0eb4b4.jpg

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Eggoman 07-19-2020 12:39 PM

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Your attention, now up Hugh Duffy...

tedzan 07-19-2020 01:17 PM

Jack Dunn
 
Babe Ruth's 1st Manager......


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tiger8mush 07-19-2020 01:29 PM

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(57)Jimmy DygertAthletics - the 5'8" spitballer

orioles70 07-19-2020 01:56 PM

"D"'s are "D"one...bring on the "E"'s

(58)R. Egan Reds

(59)Kid Elberfeld Senators

(60)Clyde Engle Red Sox

(61)Louis Evans Cardinals

(62)John J. Evers Cubs

(63)Robert Ewing Phillies

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GeoPoto 07-19-2020 02:23 PM

Elberfeld
 
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Kid Elberfeld had a career OBP of .355 across 14 MLB seasons. His fiery temper involved him in numerous ferocious arguments and assaults on umpires.

During Ty Cobb's rookie season, Cobb slid headfirst into second base, only to have Elberfeld dig his knee into the back of Cobb's neck, grinding his face in the dirt. It was the last time Cobb slid headfirst; from then on Cobb slid spikes first.
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rats60 07-19-2020 02:30 PM

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trambo 07-19-2020 02:35 PM

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No love for Egan? Ok, here's some Egan love!

Evans up!

orioles70 07-19-2020 05:54 PM

Here is an American Beauty Evans.
He led the NL in being hit by pitched balls each year from 1910 to 1912, setting a single-season record of 31 in 1910 that stood for 61 years before it was finally broken by Ron Hunt. He also set the record for being hit by a pitch in a single game, being hit three times in a game against Brooklyn.

Next up is Johnny Evershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5054f46a8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1abc94311a.jpg

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gonzo 07-19-2020 06:33 PM

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Evers, American Beauty green ink and Piedmont 42

brianp-beme 07-20-2020 01:08 AM

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A double dose of Ewing...during his playing career and at the HOF induction ceremony honoring his stint with the Village People.

Brian

orioles70 07-20-2020 03:49 AM

The "E"'s were a breeze ending with a nicely turned double play by Evers and Ewing pitching both ends of a doubleheader.

Here is the "F" Troop

(64)G. C. Ferguson Rustlers

(65)Ray Fischer Yankees

(66)Arthur Fletcher Giants

(67)John Flynn Pirates

(68)Russ Ford (black cap)Yankees

(69)Russ Ford (white cap)Yankees

(70)Wm. A. Foxen Cubs

(71)Jimmy Frick Newark

(72)Arthur Fromme Redshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...844808b31e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...52d8352b40.jpg

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gonzo 07-20-2020 08:54 AM

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Fisher Hassan 30

brianp-beme 07-20-2020 10:51 AM

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Art Fletcher. Next in is Flynn.

Brian

t206fanatic 07-20-2020 11:11 AM

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Flynn Sweet Cap

orioles70 07-20-2020 01:42 PM

Ford - black cap variation w/Sweet Cap back

Wonder what a rookie card of a Yankees pitcher would sell for in todays market after a rookie season with these pitching statistics...26-6 won-loss record with 209 strikeouts and an ERA of 1.65 with 29 complete games and 8 shutouts...and if there was a variation!

Lol...Wonder what Mr. Ford's sold for in 1911?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b7f960fe25.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ae015946b3.jpg

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orioles70 07-20-2020 01:46 PM

Ford - white cap variation with Piedmont backhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...dffa26dd8c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f6965737d3.jpg

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tedzan 07-20-2020 02:29 PM

James Frick
 
Quote:

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Ford - black cap variation w/Sweet Cap back

Wonder what a rookie card of a Yankees pitcher would sell for in todays market after a rookie season with these pitching statistics...26-6 won-loss record with 209 strikeouts and an ERA of 1.65 with 29 complete games and 8 shutouts...and if there was a variation!

If you are alluding to Ford's T205 as his rookie card, check again....his T206 (460 Series) card is his ROOKIE card.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2FordRHx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...FordRHx50b.jpg


Anyhow, here's my James Frick

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gonzo 07-20-2020 02:39 PM

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Fromme, Sweet Caporal 42 black ink, with a noticeable ink transfer

orioles70 07-20-2020 03:10 PM

Foxen got omitted...here's a nice Foxen card with Honest Long Cut back

Looks like Earl Gardner is next uphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8c0969b808.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5992f15c3a.jpg

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brianp-beme 07-20-2020 06:26 PM

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Mr. Gardner. Something I had not noticed until after I had scanned the card - the 'N' and 'Y' on his collar.

Next up Mr. Gaspar.

Brian

tedzan 07-20-2020 07:08 PM

George Gibson
 
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC42red25A.jpg . . https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...SC42red25x.jpg


It's past my bed time, so I'm posting my "pretty pink" Gibson.

If you guys have a problem with me posting this subject out of order, then you call me "alphabetically-challenged" :)


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GeoPoto 07-21-2020 05:21 AM

Dolly Gray No Stats
 
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By the time he reached 30, "Dolly" Gray had already produced an excellent career in the PCL -- so excellent that he is a member of the Pacific Coast League Hall of Fame. Then, in 1909 he joined Washington in the American League.

His MLB performance was less than excellent, producing a 15-51 career record. And most of the noteworthy accomplishments were negative -- he holds a record for walking eight batters in one inning, including seven in a row.

But in April 1911, as Washington opened what would come to be known as Griffith Stadium (and cigarettes came with brightly-colored, gold-bordered baseball cards), Gray got the start against Smoky Joe Wood. Gray would win the game, a high-point in his otherwise disappointing 2-13 final MLB season.

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T205 Hunter 07-21-2020 05:21 AM

My first post . . . happy to contribute. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a62da82b5f.jpg


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gonzo 07-21-2020 06:24 PM

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Graham, Rustlers, Piedmont 25, black and blue signature versions

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brianp-beme 07-21-2020 07:33 PM

Gasp! Somebody should post Gaspar.

Brian

GasHouseGang 07-21-2020 07:44 PM

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I saw Gray already, so I guess this is the next on the list.

GeoPoto 07-22-2020 02:33 AM

Bob Groom -- Shoots and Ladders
 
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Bob Groom's otherwise mundane career (288 starts over ten years, 119-150 record), had spectacular high and low points.

Right off the bat, Groom nose-dived to record low territory: in 1909, as an MLB rookie (after five seasons in the PCL), he laid a huge egg -- 19 consecutive losses, a record which has only been equaled once.

But, he continued to pitch, eventually won a few and then, in 1917 while pitching for the St. Louis Browns, Groom soared to exceptional height: he no-hit the eventual World Champion Chicago White Sox 3–0. And, the no-hitter came in the second game of a double-header. Earlier, Groom had preserved the win in the first game by pitching the last two innings without allowing a hit.

Groom's no-hitter also came the day after teammate Ernie Koob's 1–0 no-hitter against the White Sox. Koob and Groom are still the only teammates to pitch no-hitters on consecutive days.
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Eggoman 07-22-2020 05:01 AM

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Gray - WITH Stats! Hello, Dolly!

asoriano 07-22-2020 06:29 AM

Didn't see a Graham Cubs posted, so here's a page of them:

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Eggoman 07-22-2020 07:14 AM

So THAT'S why it took me so long to find my Graham with the Cubbies!!!!!

T205 Hunter 07-22-2020 07:16 AM

So as to not hurt Gaspar’s feelings . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cc21215862.jpg


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gonzo 07-22-2020 10:43 AM

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Hanford Polar Bear

brianp-beme 07-22-2020 11:25 AM

For your consideration - the next several in line for the Gold Bordered Throne:

(84) Bob Harmon (both ears show) Cardinals
(85) Bob Harmon (only left ear shows) Cardinals
(86) Topsy Hartsel Athletics
(87) Arnold J. Hauser Cardinals
(88) Charlie Hemphill Yankees
(89) C. L. Herzog Rustlers


Brian

asoriano 07-22-2020 11:39 AM

Harmon, Both Ears, gold ink never applied to borders. One of my all-time favorites if you can't tell by my avatar :)

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T205 Hunter 07-22-2020 12:22 PM

Pretty Harmon, T!
Here’s his other headshot:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...87eb70da02.jpg


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gonzo 07-22-2020 12:41 PM

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Hartsel with a blank back

orioles70 07-22-2020 04:45 PM

And a Hartsel with a back

Next up is Hauserhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e794a7bc24.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6fcc6b3231.jpg

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T205 Hunter 07-23-2020 06:57 AM

Keeping the ball rolling . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c55a8c9968.jpg


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orioles70 07-23-2020 08:08 AM

Here's an "Eagle Eye" Hemphill Sweet Cap Red Back Factory No. 42...next up is Herzoghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c24f1bbdc2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...590c9abe02.jpg

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tedzan 07-23-2020 08:59 AM

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tedzan 07-23-2020 09:00 AM

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Double post

T205 Hunter 07-23-2020 09:43 AM

Here’s Herzog.
The Hoblitzell Quartet is up next. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1fc0856576.jpg


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orioles70 07-23-2020 09:54 AM

Here is the first of the big 3 variations in the set...the other 2 are Mathewson 1 loss and Wilhelm "suffered" and they are the only 2 cards I need for my master set...let's see some more Hoblitzell no statshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0c76cc9013.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e7a9eb72de.jpg

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RCMcKenzie 07-23-2020 10:09 AM

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Cin after 1908

orioles70 07-23-2020 11:36 AM

Very nice Drum back

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RCMcKenzie 07-23-2020 11:45 AM

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Very nice Drum back

Thanks, one day I hope to get the "no stats". Nice one.

Here's a P42 No Cin

Eggoman 07-23-2020 01:02 PM

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Here's the final one - No Cin, Single "L"



Would LOVE a Hoblitzell - No Stats...anyone listening??? :D

T205 Hunter 07-23-2020 01:21 PM

After Hoffman Huggins is next . . . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e9416f3bd6.jpg


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