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egri 07-16-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1999563)
Everyone in this country today has the opportunity to become a millionaire no matter your race, your background, your circumstances or whatever. . .If you don't retire a millionaire, that is YOUR FAULT and nobody else's!

A while ago, there was a book written called The Millionaire Next Door. It’s from 1996, so some of the data is a bit dated, but here is an excerpt:

Who is the prototypical American millionaire? What would he tell you about himself?
•I am a fifty-seven-year-old male, married with three children. About 70 percent of us earn 80 percent or more of our household's income.
•About one in five of us is retired. About two-thirds of us who are working are self-employed. Interestingly, self-employed people make up less than 20 percent of the workers in America but account for two-thirds of the millionaires. Also, three out of four of us who are self-employed consider ourselves to be entrepreneurs. Most of the others are self-employed professionals, such as doctors and accountants.
•Many of the types of businesses we are in could be classified as dullnormal. We are welding contractors, auctioneers, rice farmers, owners of mobile-home parks, pest controllers, coin and stamp dealers, and paving contractors.
•About half of our wives do not work outside the home. The number-one occupation for those wives who do work is teacher.
•Our household's total annual realized (taxable) income is $131,000 (median, or 50th percentile), while our average income is $247,000. Note that those of us who have incomes in the $500,000 to $999,999 category (8 percent) and the $1 million or more category (5 percent) skew the average upward.
•We have an average household net worth of $3.7 million. Of course, some of our cohorts have accumulated much more. Nearly 6 percent have a net worth of over $10 million. Again, these people skew our average upward. The typical (median, or 50th percentile) millionaire household has a net worth of $1.6 million.
•On average, our total annual realized income is less than 7 percent of our wealth. In other words, we live on less than 7 percent of our wealth.
•Most of us (97 percent) are homeowners. We live in homes currently valued at an average of $320,000. About half of us have occupied the same home for more than twenty years. Thus, we have enjoyed significant increases in the value of our homes.
•Most of us have never felt at a disadvantage because we did not receive any inheritance. About 80 percent of us are first-generation affluent.
•We live well below our means. We wear inexpensive suits and drive American-made cars. Only a minority of us drive the current-model-year automobile. Only a minority ever lease our motor vehicles.
•Most of our wives are planners and meticulous budgeters. In fact, only 18 percent of us disagreed with the statement "Charity begins at home." Most of us will tell you that our wives are a lot more conservative with money than we are.
•We have more than six and one-half times the level of wealth of our nonmillionaire neighbors, but, in our neighborhood, these nonmillionaires outnumber us better than three to one. Could it be that they have chosen to trade wealth for acquiring high-status material possessions?
•As a group, we are fairly well educated. Only about one in five are not college graduates. Many of us hold advanced degrees. Eighteen percent have master's degrees, 8 percent law degrees, 6 percent medical degrees, and 6 percent Ph.D.s.
•Only 17 percent of us or our spouses ever attended a private elementary or private high school. But 55 percent of our children are currently attending or have attended private schools.
•We are fastidious investors. On average, we invest nearly 20 percent of our household realized income each year. Most of us invest at least 15 percent. Seventy-nine percent of us have at least one account with a brokerage company. But we make our own investment decisions.
•We hold nearly 20 percent of our household's wealth in transaction securities such as publicly traded stocks and mutual funds. But we rarely sell our equity investments. We hold even more in our pension plans. On average, 21 percent of our household's wealth is in our private businesses.
•I am a tightwad. That's one of the main reasons I completed a long questionnaire for a crispy $1 bill. Why else would I spend two or three hours being personally interviewed by these authors? They paid me $100, $200, or $250. Oh, they made me another offer--to donate in my name the money I earned for my interview to my favorite charity. But I told them, "I am my favorite charity."

Cmount76 07-16-2020 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1999164)
Hell yes, I care. It's Major League Baseball. And while all the off-the-field stuff baffles me (millionaires and billionaires not able to sit down, and reach a compromise on how much richer they will all be, while the average American worries if the cost of a treatment for a virus will bankrupt them), and angers me, it's still baseball. I love the sport. I wish it were 162 games being played while our country was not divided, with people suffering and dying. With brutality against individuals because of their skin color on full display. That's not our reality, right now, and it may not be for a while.

We need to try and find anything we can that makes life better, even if it's just a few hours a week. Baseball will serve as a welcome respite from the suffering. If I can turn on a game, and not think about the negatives for a few hours, I'll find a little peace. Next Wednesday, I'll sign up for MLB.tv, and get ready for opening day.

+1 - Couldn't have said it better! Let's play ball!

dabigyankeeman 07-22-2020 09:09 AM

I was not happy with the negotiations, but now thats in the past and I dont care what went on. I am self quarantining totally alone and going nuts mentally and I need baseball so badly, I am looking forward to enjoying the games starting Thursday (which is tomorrow as I type this), and nothing will take away my enjoyment of the game on the field.

I dont care what the owners wanted, what the players wanted, I dont care about cardboard fans and piped-in crowd noise, I just want and NEED to watch baseball, real games, not old games or meaningless exhibition games.

I will take the 60 game season as a whole season, and in reality, it makes each game and even each at bat have more meaning than they do in a 162 game season. I will be hanging on every pitch.

As a Yankees fan I really love that they are opening the season, and playing the Nats!!

I refuse to let any off the field crap take away my enjoyment of the game of baseball. Period.

Marckus99 07-22-2020 06:20 PM

Nope.
Haven’t seen a game in years.

steve B 07-22-2020 10:22 PM

Have you seen the stuff they'll use to "enhance" broadcasts this year?

Ringling went out of business, and I think I found where some of their people landed.
Foul territiory digitally overlaid with an ad.
Areas of seats overlaid with ads if the team doesn't sell ads on the tarps already.
A Gatorade logo digitally added the the back of the pitchers mound...
Contests during the game

vintagetoppsguy 07-24-2020 10:02 AM

Who's still drinking the Kool-Aid?
 
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Not me.

Chuck9788 07-24-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marckus99 (Post 2001654)
Nope.
Haven’t seen a game in years.

I adore and honor vintage baseball.

However, as someone who loyally supports our police officers and the brave men and women in uniform, I don't think I'm very welcome in todays MLB.

Sports in general has been transformed, it's now all about liberal social justice politics. That's not my thing.

vintagetoppsguy 07-24-2020 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck9788 (Post 2002373)
I adore and honor vintage baseball.

However, as someone who loyally supports our police officers and the brave men and women in uniform, I don't think I'm very welcome in todays MLB.

Sports in general has been transformed, it's now all about liberal social justice politics. That's not my thing.

+1 Same here

packs 07-24-2020 02:41 PM

It was a little weird to watch yesterday. I did like that the Dodgers had the cutouts in the stands.

Hard to imagine the postseason under these conditions. The crowd will be missed, I'm sure. Have to think it would be weird to celebrate a World Series in a quiet stadium.

1952boyntoncollector 07-24-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2002416)
It was a little weird to watch yesterday. I did like that the Dodgers had the cutouts in the stands.

Hard to imagine the postseason under these conditions. The crowd will be missed, I'm sure. Have to think it would be weird to celebrate a World Series in a quiet stadium.

Lots of championships have been celebrated with very little fans.......it really isnt that hard , plus there are still more people there than im sure there were in minor leagues for a lot of these guys or college. Plus by playoff time there may be some limited capacity of 1000s of fans...its only the the first day.

packs 07-24-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 2002432)
Lots of championships have been celebrated with very little fans.......it really isnt that hard , plus there are still more people there than im sure there were in minor leagues for a lot of these guys or college. Plus by playoff time there may be some limited capacity of 1000s of fans...its only the the first day.

Have you ever been to a playoff game?

1952boyntoncollector 07-25-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2002436)
Have you ever been to a playoff game?

Yes professional baseball games at the MLB level level have lots of fans, 2020 is a Covid era deal with it

The point is many ballplayers in their lifetime have played in front of little fans and won playoff games.......so stanton will not swing the bat if in the playoffs because no fans...(though could be fans later in the yera)

It just wont be that weird for the players...ever go to high school playoff game or college? ...Plus the players know they are on national TV...its not like they playing the backyard...

1952boyntoncollector 07-26-2020 11:01 AM

It will be interesting is off the field

if you go 20-0....you wont see crazy fans when you are at hotel or airport...

if win world series..will anyone greet you at airport...theres no way for the players to know what the real fan response is.....

nolemmings 08-13-2020 03:14 PM

I read today that the St. Louis Cardinals have 55 games to play and 44 days to play them-- assuming they are back on the field Saturday. That's more than the old expression "every day of the week and twice on Sundays". It's a doubleheader every four days. Better cap those at 5 innings each--hey at least it would still be an official game.:rolleyes:

clydepepper 08-14-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by the 'stache (Post 1999164)
Hell yes, I care. It's Major League Baseball. And while all the off-the-field stuff baffles me (millionaires and billionaires not able to sit down, and reach a compromise on how much richer they will all be, while the average American worries if the cost of a treatment for a virus will bankrupt them), and angers me, it's still baseball. I love the sport. I wish it were 162 games being played while our country was not divided, with people suffering and dying. With brutality against individuals because of their skin color on full display. That's not our reality, right now, and it may not be for a while.

We need to try and find anything we can that makes life better, even if it's just a few hours a week. Baseball will serve as a welcome respite from the suffering. If I can turn on a game, and not think about the negatives for a few hours, I'll find a little peace. Next Wednesday, I'll sign up for MLB.tv, and get ready for opening day.


Go Bill- Even a little is good.

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Mark17 08-14-2020 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 2008208)
I read today that the St. Louis Cardinals have 55 games to play and 44 days to play them-- assuming they are back on the field Saturday. That's more than the old expression "every day of the week and twice on Sundays". It's a doubleheader every four days. Better cap those at 5 innings each--hey at least it would still be an official game.:rolleyes:

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The Twins-Royals game Friday night at Target Field was rained out, meaning the Twins will make a bit of history on Saturday.

They will play a doubleheader where both games are scheduled to be seven innings. The first will start at 12:35 p.m., and the second will begin 30 minutes after the conclusion of the first game.
This isn't Major League Baseball. This is exhibition baseball. Entertainment and nothing else.

etsmith 08-26-2020 12:43 AM

And people like Huysmans are the real problem with modern America. They don't seem to understand that by helping the less fortunate to better themselves also helps them and America in the long term.

Mark17 08-26-2020 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by etsmith (Post 2011891)
And people like Huysmans are the real problem with modern America. They don't seem to understand that by helping the less fortunate to better themselves also helps them and America in the long term.

What he said was:
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Originally Posted by Huysmans (Post 1999595)
Bottom line Packs, it's not that I'm in disagreement with you regarding government programs and helping those who need help. I am NOT in favour of putting the burden on the rich, whatsoever. Redistribution of wealth is taking from the rich in my opinion, but we obviously won't agree. Those who volunteer it, good on them.

As a lifelong liberal, I've come to the conclusion that people need to be responsible for themselves, and as liberals, we're never honest in regards to how many people really have themselves to blame for their situation. Not all, but many. I've learnt that from experience.

And I agree 100% with him. He makes it clear in his first sentence he favors programs that help people who need it and so do I. So I have no idea why you say that people like him, and me, are the real problem with America.


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