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oldjudge 12-16-2019 06:15 PM

Gary-My guess is that some are mislabeled and are CdVs. The trade card is much scarcer than the CdV, especially, as Corey says, untrimmed .

robertsmithnocure 12-16-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by benjulmag (Post 1939553)
Yes, but of the 21 that are P&S trade cards, how many are untrimmed? My guess is the (great) majority are trimmed.

I bet that most of the know Trade Cards are trimmed. To me the ones that date to 1869 are really special. I would love to have one of the early ones with the St Anns address.

GaryPassamonte 12-17-2019 04:00 AM

A quick search of REA results shows 6 trade cards and 7 cdvs. I would guess the breakdown between cdvs and trade cards is actually quite even.
Untrimmed trade cards are definitely in the minority and should command a premium.
Regardless of the breakdown, I've just never understood why this card, whether trade card or cdv, has never shot up in value. The image depicts, arguably, the most significant team in professional baseball history. It is also relatively rare with maybe 50 in existence, but not so rare to be unobtainable. I would think serious collectors would be competing to own one. It should be one of the hobby's highest demand cards, yet it has seen only modest gains in recent years. Maybe it's because it's a team card, but the strong demand isn't there.

benjulmag 12-17-2019 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure (Post 1939589)
I bet that most of the know Trade Cards are trimmed. To me the ones that date to 1869 are really special. I would love to have one of the early ones with the St Anns address.

The only untrimmed one with the St Anns address that I am aware of had the ice skate ad on the verso. As I recall it was returned to the NYPL as it was determined to have been stolen.

Is anybody aware of another untrimmed one with the St Anns address?

oldjudge 12-17-2019 09:46 AM

Corey-Do all the ones with the skate ad have the St Ann's address?

benjulmag 12-17-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1939748)
Corey-Do all the ones with the skate ad have the St Ann's address?

That untrimmed skate ad one with the St Ann address is the only ice skate ad P&S I can picture in my mind at this time. I have vague recollections over the years of seeing a few more, but I can't say for sure. I have no recollection of the addresses on their versos, but inasmuch as they were trimmed it is very possible the addresses were lost to the trimming.

Yoda 12-17-2019 10:21 AM

A Texas Tommy Joe Jackson, if you can find one.

Baseball Rarities 12-17-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by benjulmag (Post 1939691)
The only untrimmed one with the St Anns address that I am aware of had the ice skate ad on the verso. As I recall it was returned to the NYPL as it was determined to have been stolen.

Is anybody aware of another untrimmed one with the St Anns address?

Hi Corey - I have these images in my photo library. Obviously the one example is trimmed, but you can still make out the Ann Street address

benjulmag 12-17-2019 02:07 PM

Thanks for sharing Kevin. The first one I believe was returned to the NYPL. The last one I had forgotten about.

Leon 12-18-2019 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1939804)
Hi Corey - I have these images in my photo library. Obviously the one example is trimmed, but you can still make out the Ann Street address

Nice examples. Thanks for sharing.

BeanTown 12-18-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1939986)
Nice examples. Thanks for sharing.

+1

Baseball Rarities 12-18-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1939986)
Nice examples. Thanks for sharing.

Just to be clear, those are not my cards - they are just images that I have downloaded from the internet over the years. I hope that the owners do not mind.

Leon 12-18-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1940140)
Just to be clear, those are not my cards - they are just images that I have downloaded from the internet over the years. I hope that the owners do not mind.

I understood that but others may not have. Still great cards wherever they are.

Thanks again


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