Totally disagree with this viewpoint. If I was the buyer I would HOPE the seller would stand by it but would offer zero resistance if they honestly explained their mistake.

Well, you are just wrong. The card has been relisted at a higher price. So, the sale was cancelled. This is EBay's policy, what you or I think doesn't matter. At least in this instance it is good to see EBay siding with the seller.

Not all mistakes need to be owned up to. Maybe if the sale was in Massachusetts, you would have a point. However, that is a good reason for business owners to avoid states like that. No state that I have lived in has had such unfriendly to business policies.

The buyer isn't getting screwed in this scenario. He isn't out his money and he didn't make out on a killer deal that was a mistake anyway. He didn't get screwed though. I'd say if the deal fell through and the card is now relisted correctly, then nobody got screwed and all is well again. Let's move on.

How does the card being delisted make me wrong? You have have to own all your mistakes lol. That’s not a arming point.

Other instances it may be another buyer emailing the seller telling them the price was too low, or offering more.

How is the seller having to own his mistake? In this case he is not. Some people are forgiving. I posted earlier that I had someone hit one of my buy it nows and then asked to cancel the sale. I could have just kept the money and taken a negative. However, I don't want to be like that. I refunded his money and relisted the item. In this case EBay is being forgiving of an honest mistake and not making the seller own his mistake.

So maybe the buyer is forgiving. It doesn’t mean you don’t have to own your mistake.even if the buyer is not it doesn’t mean Probstein did the right thing. It really doesn’t matter how you cut it. When the buyer press buy it now the entered in to a legal agreement. Where canceling the order is against the rules of eBay. The seller had enough chances to get the listing right. You do have to own your mistakes. I’m sure plenty of people wish they didn’t make a mistake that cost them a thousand dollars. I’m sure a lot of people wish they could weasel out of it. I’m sure some might be forgiven. Like when you get caught speeding sometimes the cop say keep it moving and slow down. Other times they hit you with everything they could. It doesn’t mean you were speeding unperpose. You can’t tell the judge I didn’t mean to speed so see you around.
Most people would live if they didn’t HAVE to pay the ticket or go to court but they are forced to.

A seller cancelling a a winning bid after the fact is not against eBay policy.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/ge...action?id=4136

All your other anecdotal rhetoric is meaningless.

Unless the buyer of this card can show some kind of intentional fraud and misrepresentation in regards to the listing and actions of the seller, the buyer would have no legal case.

The subject at hand isn't as convoluted as some are trying to make it.

Like it or not, the seller made a mistake and per eBay policy, had the option to cancel the sale and did so.

"your buyer for some reason – the item was damaged, or you had fewer items in inventory than you thought, for example – you can cancel the transaction."


If price was too low?

Ted didn't you have someone cancel your winning bids/BIN on eBay because the prices where too low? Did you ever get your items or are you still trolling eBay.:rolleyes::D

what are you talking about it says you will get a defect.

As you can see I already covered this. In fact not one person has been able to say anything in a factual manner to why integrity, honor and own your mistakes is not a way this should be handled.

I can't believe this argument is still going on. If you expect a seller to let a card go for 10, 20, or even 50% of what it's worth and what he meant to list it for just because he made a mistake when listing or marking the card, then you are the one who has no integrity or honor.

I posted facts. Just because a seller may get a "defect," that doesn't mean that the seller can't cancel a sale. I showed you a seller can cancel a sale.

The card has been relisted without the previous buyer asking eBay to intervene. There is no legal recourse now. It's done with.

You are wrong in what you said.

I see no point in responding further on this particular closed auction.

"When you can cancel a listing
If you cancel a listing, it risks disappointing potential buyers, so we strongly discourage all our sellers from doing so. However, we understand that there are times when a cancellation might be necessary. Some valid reasons include:

The item is lost, broken, or no longer available


You made a mistake, such as listing the wrong starting price in an auction"

It deoes not mention a wrong buy it now price.

Insult me eh....

You can take your opinion and stick it. If you offer an item at a price and I accept, that's a deal and not sticking with it is dishonest.

That seems a rather rude and confrontational response for a Canadian, but you can stick your opinion as well. I have no respect for someone who would try to stick it to a seller over an obvious error on an online price.

Maybe the seller needs better, or qualified help, or people who understand the product? Back in the old days, you had to ask for help or wait for the big guy to come back before you quoted a price or made a deal. All that is now lost. Also, I remember staying up nights learning the different years and types of cards so I wouldn't look like (more of) an idiot when someone asked me for 52 topps. How things change

Probably one of the top five quotes I have ever read. F^ckn eh’

Baffling stupidity as well as a total lack of any sense of personal responsibility.

I'm not Canadian.

Maybe IF you graduate Jr high and some how make it through high school you will have learned something.

See post 100 dumbass #2..

I think this sums it up pretty well. Making mistakes and owning them builds character. Making mistakes and blaming someone else builds corruption.

You don’t really mean that Steve. ;)

Sorry Andrew, I misinterpreted your post.

Just because you can speed in your car doesn’t mean that if you get caught you don’t have to pay the two ticket. Hey all cars are made with the ability to speed. It dose t make it right.

So like I said you CAN cancel a sale but it doesn’t make it right. If you can’t trust a Business to do the right thing what does that say about the business?

I have never went back on a deal or canceled a sale. But I have learned it's wrong to take advantage of someone because of a simple mistake. If you think that's stupid so be it. I find your point of view as baffling as it appears you find mine.

To all those who are worried about Probstein being taken advantage of due to an honest mistake, please rest assured that he's taken advantage of all of you through no mistake of your own.

I'm not worried about probstein as much as say a non professional seller who's moving a card to cover an unexpected expense or to make ends meet. But my feeling on this issue would be the same regardless. Now if someone posted a card for a price they later learned was too low, or canceled a sale because they received a higher offer that's completely different and would show a lack of integrity in my opinion.

But that's what happened here. A professional seller listed something at a price, it sold at that price and they cancelled when they realized that price was too low.
If they cancelled before a sale that's totally ok, but the listing says "sold"

I've sold stuff for prices that I later realized were too low. Should I get to go back and rewind those sales? How long do I get? Or do I just do what I've always done, say "darn I wasn't too smart just then" and move on to whatever's next.

Now about the US and state taxes I've been paying since High school.... Who do I talk to about a refund? In USD, not Canadian...

There is of course a solution for busting a deal.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=19165

The horse has been beaten to death twice over. Let it Rest In Peace.