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sb1 06-15-2018 05:35 PM

Derek, very nice Piedmont's! one of the toughest and underappreciated issues of the early 20th century. Even ones with nice fronts usually have back damage due to the adhesive gum, making it doubly tough to find problem free examples.

ValKehl 06-17-2018 08:50 PM

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Getting back to the E121-80s, the pitching pose of WaJo is easier than the hands-at-chest post - there are almost 50 listed in the combined pop reports. However, most of these have the Type 1 backs (the pop reports do not distinguish by back). I am confident there are less than 20 of each with the Type 2 and Type 3 backs, as shown below:

brianp-beme 06-19-2018 10:43 AM

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More Alexander and W503 love.

Brian

tedzan 06-19-2018 12:21 PM

I do not know what the pop #'s are on this T202......so whatever, I still had to display it.
I don't have too many T202's, but Johnson is the favorite in my T202 set.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sonxknight.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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ValKehl 06-19-2018 11:00 PM

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Ted, I'll give you a pass for your T202 WaJo, provided it has a black Factory 30 back! But really Ted, you should acquire some low-pop cards for your collection! :D (just teasin' ya, Ted)

ValKehl 06-23-2018 08:35 PM

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A thread on the main board has pretty much run out of steam when it falls to page 2. Many thanks to everyone who contrbuted their fantastic cards to this thread - fabulous eye candy. Here's one final post of two more low-pop, B & W, real-photo cards (everyone loves these - right?) that were produced from the same photo of WaJo - an E126 and a M101-6:

tedzan 06-26-2018 08:48 PM

It's time to bump this thread up for another round of "oldies, but goodies".


http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...hnsonproof.jpg


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T206 Reference
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BLongley 06-26-2018 09:22 PM

I wanna play... best I can do...
 
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Just picked this up from another member and he is teaching me interesting info on t206s.... so here is my new WaJo Sov 350 back... pop 16 on PSA and pop 9 on SGC... so not too far over the 20 mark....

ValKehl 06-28-2018 08:17 PM

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Ted & Brian, thanks for keeping this thread alive. I'll help with this E224-1 of WaJo:

Bicem 06-28-2018 08:22 PM

Oh man, that TX Tommy!

bigfanNY 06-29-2018 05:18 PM

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Not enough Alexander here is my favorite.

Leon 06-30-2018 04:30 PM

I think someone could retire comfortably on the value of the cards in this thread. Here is a Sporting Life something (probably ad cut) WaJo......

http://luckeycards.com/m116johnson.jpg

Solemany2k 06-30-2018 07:20 PM

My favorite Mathewson in my collectionhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6584cebbab.jpg

Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

ValKehl 07-01-2018 08:42 PM

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Both variations:

Rhotchkiss 07-01-2018 09:17 PM

Val, are they from different years? Why would the same company put out two totally different backs?

ValKehl 07-02-2018 10:20 AM

Ryan, as far as I know, both variations are from the same year, however, some cards in this set have been found with a 1927 copyright date. Cards have also been found with blank backs, and these are believed to have been cut from an advertising sheet. Not being a set collector, I don't know much about this set. Here are links to other info re this set, including past Net54 threads:

https://www.google.com/search?q=1926...w=1920&bih=947

http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/spor...?cardsetID=980

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/mu...ampions/27575/

Leon 07-02-2018 10:25 AM

As far as I know only Ruth has been found with a 1927 date on it. There are around 3-5 of those known. And one I used to own..

http://luckeycards.com/phunc1927sportscoamericaruth.jpg


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Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1791514)
Ryan, as far as I know, both variations are from the same year, however, some cards in this set have been found with a 1927 copyright date. Cards have also been found with blank backs, and these are believed to have been cut from an advertising sheet. Not being a set collector, I don't know much about this set. Here are links to other info re this set, including past Net54 threads:

https://www.google.com/search?q=1926...w=1920&bih=947

http://www.oldcardboard.com/o/h/spor...?cardsetID=980

https://www.psacard.com/cardfacts/mu...ampions/27575/


ValKehl 07-02-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1791516)
As far as I know only Ruth has been found with a 1927 date on it. There are around 3-5 of those known.

Leon, Jack Dempsey is known to exist with both 1926 and 1927 copyright dates, which leads me to suspect there might be others. See post #18 in this old Net54 thread for pics of both Dempsey cards: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=78580

BLongley 07-02-2018 04:16 PM

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Low pop on this Willard I just picked up.

Leon 07-05-2018 02:10 PM

Ole Cy hasn't been seen for a week or two...

and thanks for the info, Val!!

http://luckeycards.com/pe901youngpsa2a2.jpg

tedzan 07-28-2018 09:30 PM

Here is Matty as a pitcher-Manager (circa 1917)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tyCinciMgr.jpg

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clydepepper 07-29-2018 03:01 AM

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Population 20 - minus 19!

Always proud to show this one off:

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jb217676 07-29-2018 04:55 AM

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Here's a few Alexander Postcards:

• 1918 RPPC of Grover Alexander in France as a sergeant with the 342nd Field Artillery during World War I
• 1920 RPPC Chicago Cubs Exhibition Game vs. Kerrigan Tailors. Includes Presidential Candidate Warren Harding & Grover Alexander
• C. 1930 Postcard of Grover Alexander playing for the House of David Baseball Club

ejharrington 08-01-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1785584)
Cy playing with the local team right after retiring.

I love that postcard!

therajah 08-01-2018 01:59 PM

Wm Paterson Alexander
 
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BLongley 08-01-2018 02:24 PM

I had posted this in the July incoming....
 
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But guess I should add it here too....

PSA/SGC combined is 19... but if you separate blank back vs score card back the pop will be lower...

Bicem 08-02-2018 06:08 AM

Great Matty Brian! Have always liked that shot of him.

ValKehl 08-22-2019 11:00 AM

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Resurrecting this thread, one of my all-time favorites, with an acquisition from earlier this year:

sb1 08-22-2019 11:14 AM

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This might qualify...

packs 08-22-2019 11:31 AM

Don't think you'll find an earlier Walter Johnson autograph than this one from 1908:

https://live.staticflickr.com/869/41...41290742_b.jpg

CuriousGeorge 08-22-2019 12:18 PM

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Don’t think I’ve posted these but they fit the bill.

Vintageclout 08-22-2019 12:38 PM

Matty & Young
 
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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1910582)
Don’t think I’ve posted these but they fit the bill.

Incredible Matty!!! I owned that same SGC 4 for a little less than a year and only sold it to buy some incredible Ruth cards. I replaced that Matty with a PSA 4 W600 Street Clothes Type 2 Matty rookie that was released January 1903, actually predating the E107 by about 5/6 months. Enjoy the Young & Matty...they are both world class cards!!!!

Sincerely,
Joe

t206kid 08-22-2019 12:47 PM

Pop 3 https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b26a074b_o.jpg

t206kid 08-22-2019 12:50 PM

Or all of them together

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e144d0d4_o.jpg

CuriousGeorge 08-22-2019 01:01 PM

Joe, thanks much and thanks for selling it. Keep me in mind if you get tired of the W600 Matty.

Jay, in awe of that collection. I can only begin to imagine the time and effort that must take.

Hankphenom 08-22-2019 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by t206kid (Post 1910590)
Or all of them together

Holy shit!

Hankphenom 08-22-2019 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1910573)
Don't think you'll find an earlier Walter Johnson autograph than this one from 1908:

Fabulous WaJo artifact. At one time, I owned two out of the three he sent back home to his friend Johnny. Mostly about the weather!

DerekMichael 08-22-2019 01:59 PM

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Here are a few pretty difficult combos for Matty, Cy and the Big Train. They Young in particular is one I have seen very few of over the years.

Jay, that Johnson portrait with an Old Mill back ... wow! That is a combination that is notoriously difficult to find and yours is very lovely. Congrats!

Awesome cards everyone. Thank you for sharing!

Derek

mechanicalman 08-22-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by t206kid (Post 1910590)

Jay, I'm sure I can look this up, but it's easier to ask you - is that the complete run?

Awesome either way.

t206kid 08-22-2019 02:30 PM

Thanks all for the kind words. Yes that is all of the possible combinations. As Derek mentioned the Old Mill is by far the toughest.

Steven, that’s quite a compliment coming from you - with all the heat you’ve been posting lately. Took about 16 months from the start of the project when I had 2, to completion last month when I found the Old Mill. I have 14/19 on pitching, but there are a few roadblocks there :)

t206kid 08-22-2019 02:32 PM

I’m close on the Young Portrait as well. But this is a MUCH easier run to complete.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ce66ae87_o.jpg

ValKehl 08-22-2019 02:59 PM

Jay, you back runs are simply mesmerizing! Looking forward to seeing your WaJo pitching-pose back run, even though not complete - 14/19 ain't too shabby!

CuriousGeorge 08-22-2019 04:00 PM

That’s 16 months of patience I can’t seem to find. I start on a path...and then another...and then something else and before I know it I have a mishmash of a little bit of everything. When it all comes together like yours it’s pretty damn nice though. Congrats on it!

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Originally Posted by t206kid (Post 1910636)
Thanks all for the kind words. Yes that is all of the possible combinations. As Derek mentioned the Old Mill is by far the toughest.

Steven, that’s quite a compliment coming from you - with all the heat you’ve been posting lately. Took about 16 months from the start of the project when I had 2, to completion last month when I found the Old Mill. I have 14/19 on pitching, but there are a few roadblocks there :)


68Hawk 08-22-2019 04:10 PM

Just to add a little more color....

I think just 6 or so combined PSA/SGC for this W-UNC
https://i917.photobucket.com/albums/...pseua4qpms.jpg

And only 5 or so of the Turkey red ad version on the SGC report, don't think PSA grades these...
https://i917.photobucket.com/albums/...psth5f5xjz.jpg

Rhotchkiss 08-22-2019 05:59 PM

whoops. I posted Cobbs. Edited to remove them. My bad.

Still Love this thread!

DeanH3 08-22-2019 06:51 PM

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Nice stuff guys. That T206 WaJo and Cy runs are really cool. Nice job Jay!

t206kid 08-22-2019 07:39 PM

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Pitching! Underrated card imo

t206kid 08-22-2019 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge (Post 1910680)
That’s 16 months of patience I can’t seem to find. I start on a path...and then another...and then something else and before I know it I have a mishmash of a little bit of everything. When it all comes together like yours it’s pretty damn nice though. Congrats on it!

It's definitely not a straight path for me. This was just the run I knew I was working on in the back of my head.

I think green Cobb up next!

CuriousGeorge 08-22-2019 08:33 PM

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Jay, let me help you with a couple of holes on that WaJo pitching run of yours. You’re a lot closer to finishing than I’ll ever be.

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Originally Posted by t206kid (Post 1910756)
Pitching! Underrated card imo


Santo10Fan 08-23-2019 01:00 AM

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Jake Arrieta had a historic 2016 World Series, but Mordecai Brown is still the most important pitcher in Cubs history. https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/brown-mordecai

packs 08-23-2019 07:05 AM

Not sure how many of these are out there. He had 5 years to sign them:

https://live.staticflickr.com/4372/3...3a070d05_z.jpg

Vintageclout 08-23-2019 07:46 PM

Matty
 
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SGC 1.5 1914 Texas Tommy Mathewson - Type 1

Rhotchkiss 08-23-2019 08:09 PM

Average card Joe :p

Vintageclout 08-23-2019 08:12 PM

Matty
 
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Average card Joe :p

Hi Ryan.....if you find another one, I will agree with your assessment! LOL!

Vintageclout 08-23-2019 08:24 PM

W600 Matty Rookie
 
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Here’s my favorite Matty....W600 Type 2 Street Clothes true rookie card. Issued in January 1903.

rats60 08-23-2019 09:57 PM

This one may have a few more than 20, but this thread needs more Alexander cards.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7cb64eb2_n.jpg

Alexcards 08-25-2019 12:39 PM

Cy Young Tin
 
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Just picked this up in the LOTG auction last night... I was very excited this morning to see that I had actually won!! Yay!

Leon 08-26-2019 12:53 PM

Just in from REA.
Might as well add another Walter M101-6. I love damage on blank backs on otherwise great looking cards.

http://luckeycards.com/walter1.jpg

MVSNYC 08-28-2019 06:45 AM

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Great cards, guys!

Here's a companion for my Cy Young Hindu posted earlier in the thread...


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