Roy hallady r.i.p
 

Could we please start a new thread about Roy vs Pettitte vs Ryan? This is getting ridiculous.

A man lost his life leaving behind a wife and two young boys yet all ppl care about is where he ranks in xxx list and if he will be a first ballot HoF'er. SMDH.

It is what it is. You cant assume Roy would of done well in the postseason, we dont know. .the only data we have is Petitte DID well. Lots of guys dont get opportunities but they are't held in higher regard than people than did get opportunities and came through..

You dont get into the HOF for pitching no hitters :(


As far as talking about Roy's stats after the recent news. i think its pretty normal to discuss careers of people and where they stand against other peoples careers especially in the entertainment and sports. This is exactly when these discussions occur, after recent news.

Try 3.39.

Also Pettitte's whip is gross at 1.351 even higher than Tim Wakefields!

He would be 4th worst there!

Here you go guys. Knock yourselves out.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...81#post1718381

Even at 3.39/3.40 its still bottom 10 of every pitcher in the HOF..thats hardly a strength

You really digging deep to get to Whip. Lefty Gomez whip was worse than Petitte and Lefty is in the HOF..


..whatever you want to say it didnt cause petitte to lose games...he won 60 or so more games they Roy

I thought people only pointed to pitchers' career wins out of sarcasm these days, like to "prove" that Don Sutton was better than Tom Seaver, or Jerry Koosman was better than Sandy Koufax or whatever.

I thought people did that with sarcasm if that was the ONLY state they were pointing too. People also have that attitude for ERA and Whip as well

However if player A won 300 more games than player B with an equal number of games started, i think it would be silly not to point out the great disparity in wins when comparing the two..

A lot of similarities to the 1997 John Denver crash


http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/10/33/35.../5/920x920.jpg

Article on FAA findings on that one

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrSb...BZDTZkbHR9NUc-

man that plane looks unsafe...i have flown gyrocopters that looked safer and thats saying a lot

John Denver is dead?

For the last 20 years, yes.

I remember at the time my friend relating to me that he had seen a headline on a website "Plane Crashes In California. John Denver Feared Alive." Which is simultaneously one of the most awful and wonderful jokes I've ever heard.

This hysterical!!!! and awful.......but more hysterical

Al beat me to posting a picture of the 'plane' Halladay crashed. Reminds me of that gasoline-powered roller-skate they call a 'smart car' - neither looks safe enough for me to consider operating in even the best of conditions.

Here's the photo I found of the ICON A5:

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David, if you're still out there...