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packs 08-28-2017 02:38 PM

Bring on GGG vs Canelo already. No one is even talking about it. Now THAT'S a super fight.

Snapolit1 08-28-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1695620)
Guys who are defenseless are at risk of serious injury, it was correct to stop it. I think Mayweather probably was told not to end it too quickly for commercial reasons. Also, he may have actually been enjoying himself and was content to linger a few extra rounds in his last ring appearance. With the difference in ring experience and intelligence, hand speed, and punching power, this was not a real contest IMO.

Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.

felada 08-28-2017 03:56 PM

No he was doing it because he placed a rather large bet on himself to win in the tenth round


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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1695648)
Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.


Peter_Spaeth 08-28-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1695648)
Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.

It's one thing to hit a man, another to hit him with a punch with anything behind it. I still think he chose the round. This was a win win. Floyd got his victory, MacGregor got respect for fighting what superficially looked like a decent fight, the fans and network got a reasonably long bout.

Big Six 08-29-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1695648)
Disagree, and have a little bit of amateur boxing experience myself. This was a real fight. I am not saying that I doubted for a minute than Mayweather would prevail, but the idea that he dragged this along for extra rounds for commercial reasons is ridiculous. Macgregor had a very effective jab. Didn't have much of a power punch. But he threw and landed a decent number of punches. And they were not the type of punches of the angles Mayweather is used to seeing. He is a marvelous defensive fighter but this was not what he has spent his career defending against. I think Mayweather was actually quite surprised to get punched in the face more than a few times. I think he realized Macgregor would run out of gas in about the 7th round and he backed off a bit and this is exactly what happened. But he wasn't doing it for commercial reasons. Last fight of his career. Would have knocked him out in the first round if he wanted to go off in a blaze of glory.



I saw the fight you just described!!! :)


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bnorth 08-29-2017 09:17 AM

This is what I watched.I watched a 40 year old with a plan hit a young man in his prime at will. Floyd had a game plan and executed it perfectly on someone with almost no boxing skill.

z28jd 08-29-2017 09:48 AM

It sounds like many people here enjoyed the fight. I thought it was complete garbage and should have been over much sooner. This was a sham, not a legit fight. MacGregor was constantly leaning in and leaving his chin open on weak jabs. Any offensive fighter would have ended it in the first round. I found nothing enjoyable about the fight except the stoppage. I haven't watched boxing in years because it's completely corrupt and nonsense like this happens, but if I paid for something like that "fight", I'd want my money back.

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2017 09:53 AM

I just read an analysis that asked the question, why did it take Mayweather so long to end it, and concluded, because he wanted it to. I honestly don't know what other people are seeing here if they think it was at all competitive or even legit. Nevada never should have sanctioned this fight in the first place, but I am sure with so much potential revenue at stake from the spectacle pressure was brought to bear.

bnorth 08-29-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1695845)
I just read an analysis that asked the question, why did it take Mayweather so long to end it, and concluded, because he wanted it to. I honestly don't know what other people are seeing here if they think it was at all competitive or even legit. Nevada never should have sanctioned this fight in the first place, but I am sure with so much potential revenue at stake from the spectacle pressure was brought to bear.

In my opinion it went so long because that was Floyds plan. Why take any chances when you don't have to. Conor is known for gassing, Floyd waited for it and then stopped the fight.

I agree that the Nevada Athletic Commission should have never let someone with almost no boxing skill at all get in the ring with a real professional. This fight(LOL) was all about the cash.

rayray 08-29-2017 10:05 AM

It seems like cardio got the best out of Conor. Floyd is in tremendous shape (even at 40) and knows what it takes to go the distance. Unfortunately for Conor, his inexperience as an 0-0 professional boxer caused him to burn out sooner then he would've liked. Other than that, I thought it was an entertaining fight from both fighters. And as a boxing fan, I have to give Conor respect for lasting as long as he did and not being completely outclassed the way many experts originally predicted.

Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rayray (Post 1695848)
It seems like cardio got the best out of Conor. Floyd is in tremendous shape (even at 40) and knows what it takes to go the distance. Unfortunately for Conor, his inexperience as an 0-0 professional boxer caused him to burn out sooner then he would've liked. Other than that, I thought it was an entertaining fight from both fighters. And as a boxing fan, I have to give Conor respect for lasting as long as he did and not being completely outclassed the way many experts originally predicted.

I think what got the best out of Conor was that his skill level, hand speed and punching power were (as was obvious going in) completely inferior to Floyd's.

Dpeck100 08-29-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1695854)
I think what got the best out of Conor was that his skill level, hand speed and punching power were (as was obvious going in) completely inferior to Floyd's.

From my vantage point I think everyone comes out looking good. McGregor lasted a good amount of time. Mayweather avoided the upset and finished him. Both made a ton of money. The public seems to have enjoyed the fight and the lead up.

Mayweather cemented his legacy going undefeated. McGregor can return to MMA where he can use his arsenal with no damage done to his reputation.

I think the bigger issue is that MMA is at real cross roads. There are very few stars left and because the win loss records matter and the competition is so tough it is hard to create them. The use of performance enhancing drugs is an epidemic in the sport and I think popularity is waning. I used to never miss a PPV but can't recall the last one I bought. The Fertita brothers seemed to have sold at the perfect time.

Snapolit1 08-29-2017 11:40 AM

First boxing match many young people ever watched. My 17 yr old was riveted. Problem with MMA is the fights often are over in the blink of an eye. You can't match the drama of a 10 or 12 round boxing match.


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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1695877)
From my vantage point I think everyone comes out looking good. McGregor lasted a good amount of time. Mayweather avoided the upset and finished him. Both made a ton of money. The public seems to have enjoyed the fight and the lead up.

Mayweather cemented his legacy going undefeated. McGregor can return to MMA where he can use his arsenal with no damage done to his reputation.

I think the bigger issue is that MMA is at real cross roads. There are very few stars left and because the win loss records matter and the competition is so tough it is hard to create them. The use of performance enhancing drugs is an epidemic in the sport and I think popularity is waning. I used to never miss a PPV but can't recall the last one I bought. The Fertita brothers seemed to have sold at the perfect time.


Peter_Spaeth 08-29-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1695877)
From my vantage point I think everyone comes out looking good. McGregor lasted a good amount of time. Mayweather avoided the upset and finished him. Both made a ton of money. The public seems to have enjoyed the fight and the lead up.

I agree with all that, my only objection from an admitted purist/snob perspective is to anyone who considered it a real fight. It wasn't. I am sure it went pretty much according to the plan you outlined above.

Dpeck100 09-01-2017 05:12 AM

I see one of the copies that was recently listed just sold for 2k. Solid price.

bnorth 09-01-2017 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1696697)
I see one of the copies that was recently listed just sold for 2k. Solid price.

2k, is that for one of the Topps Now cards they put out with Floyd's autograph?

I see now they are talking about doing a 3rd mma match with Nate Diaz and Conor. I wonder if they are going to do it at the 155lb weight class they both really fight at. I hope it is not another catch weight fight so they get casual fans to believe the BS that Nate is a much bigger fighter. All the hype surrounding Conor is as bad as the WWF. You do gotta give a guy with no boxing skill props for BSing his way into the most viewed fight in history though.

Dpeck100 09-01-2017 06:28 AM

2k for a 1997 Brown's Boxing PSA 10.

Peter_Spaeth 09-01-2017 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1696704)
2k, is that for one of the Topps Now cards they put out with Floyd's autograph?

I see now they are talking about doing a 3rd mma match with Nate Diaz and Conor. I wonder if they are going to do it at the 155lb weight class they both really fight at. I hope it is not another catch weight fight so they get casual fans to believe the BS that Nate is a much bigger fighter. All the hype surrounding Conor is as bad as the WWF. You do gotta give a guy with no boxing skill props for BSing his way into the most viewed fight in history though.

Far more people love a spectacle than love a boxing match, it seems. And both men did a good job playing along and hyping it.

Snapolit1 09-01-2017 10:01 AM

Mike Tyson thinks Macgregor deserves an A+ for the fight and should keep boxing, but folks on this board think he was a total bust. Oh well, opinions are like [FILL IN THE BLANK] as they say. Everyone's got one.

Forever Young 09-01-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1696759)
Mike Tyson thinks Macgregor deserves an A+ for the fight and should keep boxing, but folks on this board think he was a total bust. Oh well, opinions are like [FILL IN THE BLANK] as they say. Everyone's got one.

:) awesome. Everyone is a genius Steve.. duh....

OsFan 09-01-2017 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1695629)
Bring on GGG vs Canelo already. No one is even talking about it. Now THAT'S a super fight.

Boxing has no idea how to promote their own fights. Hopefully it's learned a thing or two from working with UFC promotions.


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