I agree. I am done with his nonsense. I not posting anymore on this thread. IM sure Calvindog will continue acting like to the 14 or 10 year old daughter (i at least should be the 14 year old one, hes the 10 year one )

All i did was post a card for sale. If you read everything and not just skimmed. There was zero need to call me an idiot or argue with price or make an lowball offer I think we can agree i should be able to just post the card again for sale without comments of calling me an idiot or post any other card without Calvindog being a 10 year old namecalling. (Incidentally i did make a sale on my other listing that i had with the Hank Sauer with zero comments)

We will see if CalvinDog can refrain from posting anything. If he wants to shout some more we can bring it on his b/s/t threads which i still havent posted anything since after he became a 10 year old daughter. We can then have people tell us we are both being clowns on his b/s/t threads.

I also shouldnt of gotten in the back and forth on this thread. Sorry guys.

good stuff

I too regret getting involved. I should have just kept on truckin like I usually do. Live and learn.

Jake -- if you've bought a card, why do you need to announce or post anything? Just let the seller mark it as sold. And if you want people to know you won it, post it on the new acquisitions thread. It's easy enough to see why Dean was confused.

Relatedly, even if it doesn't apply here, I agree that if it's clear someone has expressed interest in a card, the appropriate communication to the seller is along the lines of let me know if X doesn't buy it.

This thread makes me so sad for our hobby.

Yeah but I feel much worse for Jake's parents or wife and kids (gasp), should he have them.

If I were moderator I'd let nonsense like this run for a day or two and just delete it. A waste of everyone's time. Serves no purpose other than two let two guys pull each others hair out.

The fact that you have no problem with what Jeff said shows you are are biased. Everyone on this thread at least appears to think it takes two to tangle but here you go with a shot at me but your 'shot' is a paper clip and a rubber band.

In addition, when you used to send me wierd pms, you stopped once i posted them, do you want me to post your pms again? I had you blocked for awhile. I could say the sky was blue and you would disagree.

Lets not pretend you are just a regular poster out of the blue. Correct me i am wrong that you believe what Jeff here was appropriate or at least dont agree that both people were in the wrong.

I have a feeling you wont answer that directly but who knows.

Dean may of still been confused if i posted it as a new acquisition though at the time I said Ill take it, so i dont think that would of solved anything.


I was the first to express interest in the card. I do see why he was confused though and will go about it differently next time. I also think he will go about it differently in his frustration to just PM me instead of posting the issue on my b/s/t thread. Dean and I are good now as grown man can communicate and resolve things.

To Bobby who feels the thread is bad for the hobby: I agree, hopefully i wont get in a back and forth again with someone on my b/s/t thread. Its especially bad for the hobby considering Calvindog pays millions into the hobby and thus is a major player and takes the time for the back and forth in this unfortunate thread..

Sorry was supposed to be my last post, but Greg put that post there which was undeserved etc and then i was like what the heck and responded to your neutral post.

My PMs to you were telling you consistently what a complete idiot you are. It is against the rules to post PMs but if you want to embarrass yourself...even more, have at it, with Leon's permission.

I stopped posting on the thread you started about me because you are pathetic and your arguments make no sense. You cannot have an intelligent debate or discussion with you. Again, how on earth did you become a lawyer? This is astonishing.

So your posts really prove you are neutral here. I had to start that thread to get you to stop sending the pms. Actions speak louder than words. You did stop sending PMS immediately after i posted your most recent pm. Thanks for giving me permission to post any new ones which I will.

Is it against the rules to post on b/s/t threads and call people idiots. Im sure you got Leons permission for that. How on earth did you become a seller of time shares this is astonishing. I always felt harassed by you guys when i went on vacation. I bet you make a fortune though. Good for you and your family.

We also now know the source of the quote that Calvindog was referencing approving his behavior on my thread. You are the one sending me the pms months ago that i had to start posting and i had to block you and your beef is with me?

Not sure why you felt the need to post here if you dont care what i say. You can start from not posting anything else .

I was going to stay out of this one but I would like to make a proposal. Boyton, Calvin's posts were inappropriate in the context of just thread, but were made because you tend to do the same thing in many other BST threads, including one of his recently.

Can we all agree to stop posting unwanted suggestions and comments, other than nice card, in BST threads in the future? If you agree to do this Boyton I'm pretty sure everyone else will agree to stop commenting on yours.

And to Dean, when you typed PM sent, if your PM didn't say I will take it the card is still fair game. A seller shouldn't have to hold it and a buyer shouldn't have to wait simply because you asked a question or made an offer.

I disagree. If I see that someone has expressed interest, I am going to give them a chance to make their deal. Common courtesy in a community. I would certainly contact the seller and tell them I am interested if the first person doesn't buy it, and leave it to the seller how to proceed, but I am not going to try to swoop in on a board member who got there first.

Great card and best of luck with the sale!

I said nothing close to what Calvin said. If Calvin can say what he did here because i stated that he may want to list a price, imagine what I should be able to put now on his. He did agree that VCP should be posted on all of our listings.

As to Dean, i was also the first to contact the seller (i was there first ) as well so even the issue that Peter disagrees with you on isnt an issue in my situation.

I am going to post in the manner you suggested on all future b/s/t listings.

However from this point on any more posts by Calvin that are outside the lines of b/s/t can we agree would now be totally out of line? (rhetorical) Anyway pkrplayer we will now test your theory, I will make another FS thread. There would be zero reason now for anyone to make commentary outside of b/s/t

If you are agreeing not to post comments on BST threads at all, other than nice card, in the future then yes it would be inappropriate for others to do the same on your threads. Hopefully we can all stick to this and save the discussions and commentary for the appropriate sections of the forum.

I think you should ask yourself why you feel the need to annoy and intrude on others BST posts before you start asking me anything.

I have not stopped sending you PMs and I have sent you several emails too over the last month or two since that ridiculous and pointless thread you started about me and VCP. You are a mess. Catch ya later.

First of all, it was understood there would be no more posts like this on my b/s/t. Yet there you go again.

I havent gotten any of your emails. I know you stopped pming me here once i started to post them. So you just keep emailing me nonsense i assume? I can go check my junk mail i guess. Why not post them here? Id like to take a look at it. Lets see what you have been emailing me with no response. Its not like you are saying you got an email response from me on anything. Im sure if i got emailed nonsense i wouldnt respond though. I will post it though.

you said i always quote VCP prices and you are a LIAR. Calvindog did post VCP prices on this thread. Can you point to one single thread where i posted VCP prices? Zero. That thread started because you called me a liar and said everyone has said so like we discussed i made a thread on it. Pokerplr has already stated i never have quoted VCP prices in selling a card. Not sure why you want to bring up something from many months ago

Why would you continue to send me pms and emails? I really think you cross the line if you are sending me harassing emails over these months with no response. Even Calvindog hasnt emailed nor I emailed him.

You send pms and emails with zero response back but you continue to send SEVERAL emails you state. Man why not continue and send 100 more with no response and IM the mess. You seem to be acting like an ex that was dumped. You may want to let it go. You are liked a spurned lover.

I know i have never felt a need to send several emails/pms with zero response over many months. You look really bad by saying that.

Good job in staying silent and proving you dont care what i say by the way. If what i said was so pointless why would you send several emails over many months with no response.

I actually feel sorry for you.

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Hey Jake, if this is you not posting anymore, I would hate to see the opposite. Keep your word. Stop posting. Let this die. Please. Other people are trying to sell cards here.

Understood Are you directing that to the others that posted on this thread as well? I trying trying to sell a card on a b/s/t without the negative comments. Fair enough?

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I think if you would be a leader and quit posting rebuttals then the whole thing would die. But as long as someone needs to get the last word just to get the last word, this will be a 10-page thread full of nothing. Just let it go.

Man i wish you just answered the question. You could of just said 'fair enough'


Its a b/s/t thread, theres really no reason for anyone to post anything for me to have to post a rebuttal. I got a guy, Greg that claims he is emailing me for many months with no response. He earlier would send many harassing pms until i posted them on here. I think you can understand i wanted to make it clear to him that i will post any emails he sends (he is free to post them here too). I have sent him ZERO/emails pms since i started that thread he is referring too. I also have not said anything negative about him on this board since that thread.

I also had an issue with Dean who said i was below board basically on a card we both wanted. However when the facts were made to light, even he can agree i did nothing wrong. He agreed he should of of just pmed me and we could could of resolved it privately. However when something is made public, it had to be addressed as i make many card transactions with people here. If he was confused with me putting 'ill take it' after i bought the card, people could be equally confused that he ever offered asking price by putting 'pm sent' (even though i already had a deal before ever seeing that post as the seller and i communicated off of net54)

There should be no reason for anyone else to post anything negative on this thread from this point on

Ok first off my aplogies to everyone for doing what I said I wouldn't do. BUT, I think in all fairness to me it needs to be said because it's unfair for Jake to say he did nothing wrong.

Jake - What you did wrong was post "I'll take it" 30 minutes after you already purchased the card. That's what caused confusion on my part. I'm in no way suggesting you didn't contact the seller first. I believe you did, however if you would have stayed silent and let the seller tell me the card had already sold I would have happily moved along.

Again, my aplogies to the board for continuing this horror show.

Just wanted to add. Jake, I have no beef with you. It was a case of miscommunication. I hope we can burry this and move on.

You can always ask me to lock a thread and re-post the card in a new one. It will probably have fewer posts, at least at first.

go back and start through the Red Cobb with Cobb back thread. This one has a long way to go to reach that one.

Don't know that one. Or do you mean the Cobb/Lenox thread?

That's it - sorry, Cobb/Lennox

You win Mr. Technical :D

Yeah, I remember that one. I participated in that thread. And this will end my participation in this thread.