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seattlerainiers 07-21-2016 06:56 PM

Jake Stenzel
 
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1892 Portland, Pacific Northwest League.

"Paris Panel". Pretty fancy!

edjs 07-21-2016 07:43 PM

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Picked this little beauty up with my e-bay bucks. Sorry it's not baseball, but I think it is cool enough to go here.

ValKehl 07-21-2016 11:13 PM

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1888 n403.

RCMcKenzie 07-22-2016 12:12 AM

JWood cabinets, NY Giants
 
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Deasley and Crotty...(cabinets are the same size, but scans are old and in different kb formats.)

joeadcock 07-22-2016 02:46 AM

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rgpete 07-22-2016 08:10 AM

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Script Series

joeadcock 07-22-2016 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by uffda51 (Post 1564117)

Bruce

Great stuff

ramram 07-22-2016 09:33 AM

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1886 Pete Conway - Kansas City Cowboys - National League

Rob M.

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TaxMechanick 07-22-2016 09:53 AM

19th Century
 
Bruce,

Simply incredible!

Glenn

triwak 07-23-2016 12:53 AM

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I'll play. Fun thread. And yeah Glenn, that Radbourn is off the charts!!

herbc 07-23-2016 03:06 AM

Not baseball, but 19th Century.
 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps0mcrdvor.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psd95h6ofk.jpg

ccre 07-23-2016 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triwak (Post 1564703)
I'll play. Fun thread. And yeah Glenn, that Radbourn is off the charts!!

Wow! Fantastic cabinets.

pete zouras 07-23-2016 07:20 AM

Terry Turner in a dress in the 19th c.
 
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Jobu 07-23-2016 08:33 AM

Nobody can top this one IMO, simply amazing Bruce!

Great stuff all around.

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Originally Posted by uffda51 (Post 1564115)


khkco4bls 07-23-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1564772)
Nobody can top this one IMO, simply amazing Bruce!

Great stuff all around.

U ain't kiddin. Awesome

BeanTown 07-23-2016 10:23 AM

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All great cards and especially those Cabinets! Let's tone it down with this.

RCMcKenzie 07-23-2016 12:02 PM

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A's team card

Joe_G. 07-23-2016 02:58 PM

Always enjoy seeing your items Bruce and everyone else.

I've been slowly upgrading some of the Detroit OJs and thanks to Bruce and Henry continue to grow the SF Hess Newsboys.

Here are the Detroit N172 players introduced in 1887


The 1888 additions (minus Gilligan)


And the International Association Detroit N172 players from 1889


Last, but not least, the Newsboys from Detroit and abroad.


ksfarmboy 07-23-2016 03:16 PM

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Really great stuff guys! 1870's Sabetha, Ks.

sb1 07-23-2016 05:06 PM

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A Chickering Imperial Cabinet and one of my GGG-Grandfather but he never played Baseball :)

Leon 07-24-2016 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1564927)
A Chickering Imperial Cabinet and one of my GGG-Grandfather but he never played Baseball :)

Your GGG has more hair than you (and me but that ain't sayin' much).

http://luckeycards.com/pphotox21870s80s.jpg

nameless 07-25-2016 08:37 AM

19th Century Cabinet
 
Unknown African American baseball player. Circa 1880's.

http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c2345e8.jpg

IMAXMAX 07-25-2016 10:45 AM

GI
 
great image!


Quote:

Originally Posted by nameless (Post 1565315)
Unknown African American baseball player. Circa 1880's.

http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c2345e8.jpg


JeremyW 07-26-2016 03:36 PM

1894 Baltimore
 
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In my personal opinion, this has more contrast/clarity than most, not to mention 7 HOFs. I love it.

FourStrikes 07-26-2016 07:05 PM

WoW!
 
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Originally Posted by JeremyW (Post 1565764)
In my personal opinion, this has more contrast/clarity than most, not to mention 7 HOFs. I love it.

Jeremy, I agree - great contrast - that's gorgeous.

joeadcock 07-26-2016 07:24 PM

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tedzan 07-26-2016 08:22 PM

1888 S F Hess.... J. Smith


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...JSmithFREE.jpg


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FourStrikes 07-26-2016 08:34 PM

Ted...
 
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Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1565904)

those S F Hess cards are beautiful - and elusive - nice.

ullmandds 07-26-2016 08:59 PM

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This big guy completed my set.

FourStrikes 07-26-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1565916)
This big guy completed my set.

nice finish - congrats.

boneheadandrube 07-26-2016 10:36 PM

Who has the cabinet photo with the guy hiding up in a tree in the background? I think its a photo of a day of baseball with some shenanigans going on in a couple of places within the photo...?

TaxMechanick 07-26-2016 10:50 PM

19th Century
 
Peter,

Out of curiosity, does the Big Guy complete a set of 50 or exclusively the BB Players only? Either way, congratulations!

Glenn

Leon 07-27-2016 05:58 AM

congrats!! Nice card too....

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1565916)
This big guy completed my set.


tedzan 07-27-2016 05:47 PM

N165 ......circa 1889


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cherBBcard.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...herBBcardb.jpg



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IMAXMAX 07-27-2016 06:13 PM

would love to hear more about this----anybody?
link?



Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube (Post 1565945)
Who has the cabinet photo with the guy hiding up in a tree in the background? I think its a photo of a day of baseball with some shenanigans going on in a couple of places within the photo...?


Jobu 07-27-2016 08:13 PM

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The OP asked "Where have all the 19th century posters gone?"

This 3"x5" Kelly isn't a poster, but it was once part of one (poster image is a reproduction).

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Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1562917)
Where have all the 19th century posters gone?


ullmandds 07-27-2016 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaxMechanick (Post 1565946)
Peter,

Out of curiosity, does the Big Guy complete a set of 50 or exclusively the BB Players only? Either way, congratulations!

Glenn

haha...i considered quantifying...just the bb players!!!

thanks folks!

boneheadandrube 07-27-2016 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMAXMAX (Post 1566158)
would love to hear more about this----anybody?


I think the consensus was that it was a family reunion photo with a pickup baseball game. There was another similar photo with a dead guy in his casket cropped into a team photo (If I remember correctly). These were shown probably ten years ago now...

ValKehl 07-28-2016 06:24 PM

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I believe this "Score-card," which shows the results of the NL games played on August 16, 1889, would have been posted on the following day in the store of Geo. W. Cochran & Co., tobacconist, which was located at 1115 Pennsylvania Ave. N.W., Washington DC. Cochran started his business 1847, and by the 1880's, was the largest such establishment south of Baltimore. S. Ottenberg & Bros. operated a large cigar factory (factory no. 1065) in lower Manhattan, NYC.

You will note that John Clarkson of Boston, who led the NL in most categories, including wins and shutouts, in 1889, hurled a 2-hit shutout over Cleveland. And, both Connie Mack (Washington) and Buck Ewing (NY) caught losing efforts that day.
Val

Joe_G. 07-28-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1566489)
I believe this "Score-card," which shows the results of the NL games played on August 16, 1889, would have been posted on the following day in the store of Geo. W. Cochran & Co., tobacconist

Val, I find your scorecard very interesting, nice piece!

tedzan 07-29-2016 09:07 AM

1871 Troy Haymakers Photo / Scorecards......


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...makersyork.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...pperflynnb.jpg


My research indicates that 10 such Photo / Scorecards were printed. I have (or have seen) 5 of them (**).

The 10 are listed here......


Stephen Bellen, 3rdB
Edward Conners, substitute
William Craver, 2ndB
William Flynn, 1stB **
Charles Flowers, SS **
Stephen King, LF
John McMullin, Pitcher **
Michael McGeary, Catcher **
Lipman Pike, RF
Thomas York, CF **


I know these cards are extremely rare. However, if any of you have them, please post them....Thanks.




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GaryPassamonte 07-29-2016 01:44 PM

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No Troy scorecards, but I have this one thanks to a board member. It, too, is from 1871 the first year of the National Association and features the Washington Olympics and the Boston Red Stockings.
I wish I knew how to make the scan bigger.

btcarfagno 07-29-2016 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1566584)
1871 Troy Haymakers Photo / Scorecards......


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...makersyork.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...pperflynnb.jpg


My research indicates that 10 such Photo / Scorecards were printed. I have (or have seen) 5 of them (**).

The 10 are listed here......


Stephen Bellen, 3rdB
Edward Conners, substitute
William Craver, 2ndB
William Flynn, 1stB **
Charles Flowers, SS **
Stephen King, LF
John McMullin, Pitcher **
Michael McGeary, Catcher **
Lipman Pike, RF
Thomas York, CF **


I know these cards are extremely rare. However, if any of you have them, please post them....Thanks.




TED Z
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I would especially love to see the Lip Pike.

Tom C

seattlerainiers 07-30-2016 09:12 AM

1887 Chicago-Boston scorecard
 
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Here's a sweet "mini" National League scorecard (approximately 4"x6" inches). Great that this little gem survived!

kkkkandp 07-30-2016 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1566584)
1871 Troy Haymakers Photo / Scorecards......l

My research indicates that 10 such Photo / Scorecards were printed. I have (or have seen) 5 of them (**).

I know these cards are extremely rare. However, if any of you have them, please post them....Thanks.

Ted:

That's awesome!

Kevin

ValKehl 07-30-2016 10:02 PM

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In 1884, Washington was an expansion team in the American Association. But, the team fared poorly and folded after its August 2nd home loss to the NY Metropolitans, who got 3 runs in the 9th to win by a score of 6 - 5. Here's Washington's game schedule for 1884 along with a scored scorecard for Washington's final game. What I find to be especially interesting is that the original owner of these items hand noted the disbanding of the team on both of them:

kkkkandp 07-30-2016 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ValKehl (Post 1567007)
In 1884, Washington was an expansion team in the American Association. But, the team fared poorly and folded after its August 2nd home loss to the NY Metropolitans, who got 3 runs in the 9th to win by a score of 6 - 5. Here's Washington's game schedule for 1884 along with a scored scorecard for Washington's final game. What I find to be especially interesting is that the original owner of these items hand noted the disbanding of the team on both of them:

Val:

Nice!

Kevin

P.S. I think they could have squeezed poor Charlie Reipschlager's full last name in there! :D

ValKehl 07-31-2016 09:34 AM

Joe G. and Kevin C., thanks for your kind words. There are lotsa absolutely fantastic items in this thread!

Den*nis O*Brien 07-31-2016 10:36 AM

1866 CDV Belvidere IL.
 
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I showed this years ago but it fits here also. The Mystic BBC only existed in 1866 when they lost to the Rockford Forest City BBC 123-8. After that "Loss" they merged with the Belvidere BBC and took the name Phoenix. The Phoenix lost to A.G. Spaldings Rockford club again in 1867 but only 24-16

doug.goodman 07-31-2016 11:31 AM

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Note the catcher for Washington on July 15, 1886...

tedzan 07-31-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kkkkandp (Post 1566907)
Ted:

That's awesome!

Kevin


Thanks Kevin

I wish that more of these Troy Haymakers would come out of the woodwork.


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TheBig6 07-31-2016 10:42 PM

Great Stuff, guys
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers...size/album.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers...e/goodwin2.jpg

tedzan 08-03-2016 02:21 PM

1888 Lone Jack Tin
 
Does anyone here have any Lone Jack BB cards ?

If so....please show them.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...baccoTin50.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...oTinside50.jpg





http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...coCards50x.jpg


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uffda51 08-03-2016 04:34 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...cover72dpt.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...Book172dpi.jpg

uffda51 08-03-2016 04:35 PM

per Ted's request . . .
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...ck%20Foutz.jpg

uffda51 08-03-2016 04:37 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...ize/SFHess.JPGhttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51.../SFHESS001.JPG

nameless 08-03-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by uffda51 (Post 1568148)



Nice Lone Jack!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

uffda51 08-03-2016 04:41 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51...39.44%20PM.png

uffda51 08-03-2016 04:44 PM

Nice group of cards, Joe G.! Great thread.

19cbb 08-05-2016 09:33 AM

Cool thread and great stuff!
4 year hiatus away from the board ... Some scanning is in order.

https://s32.postimg.org/mm4u70qf9/IM...805_112134.jpg

ramram 08-05-2016 09:44 AM

Welcome back Jimmy L. Are you still located down in Zika-land?

Rob M

19cbb 08-05-2016 10:00 AM

Hey Rob, glad to know you're still posting here!

Now that Zika mosquitos have arrived in miami all I can say is that I'm cornered.

Bet you remember this handsome fella... It's been what? 15 years?

https://s32.postimg.org/feid42d51/IM...805_115257.jpg

ramram 08-05-2016 10:32 AM

Ah, that was my very first baseball CDV.

Rob

Joe Hunter 08-05-2016 11:17 AM

19th Century
 
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1890's Cabinet Photo. Note the fingerless glove on the player to the left.

tedzan 08-05-2016 02:34 PM

On display is my very last remaining Old Judge....Jim Fogarty.

I sold or traded all my other OJ's.

Kept Fogarty because he played for the original Phillies (Quakers) team.


:) Furthermore, he is the "Great-Grandfather" of John Fogerty (of CCR fame).....and, that great BB HOF song "Centerfield" :)

OK guys....this may sound " way out ! " Whatever, consider this....Jim and John were both born in San Francisco.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Fogarty75x.jpg



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oldjudge 08-05-2016 02:58 PM

Ted--Where is the info about the relationship between Jim Fogarty and John Fogerty from? Obviously, the names are spelled differently, and Jim died at an early age from TB and I have seen no mention of him having a family.

ksfarmboy 08-05-2016 03:10 PM

Jimmy welcome back. Would love to see what's in those stacks of cdvs and stereoviews!

ramram 08-05-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1568731)
Ted--Where is the info about the relationship between Jim Fogarty and John Fogerty from? Obviously, the names are spelled differently, and Jim died at an early age from TB and I have seen no mention of him having a family.

To quote Animal House - "Forget it, he's rolling."

tedzan 08-05-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1568723)
On display is my very last remaining Old Judge....Jim Fogarty.

I sold or traded all my other OJ's.

Kept Fogarty because he played for the original Phillies (Quakers) team.


:) Furthermore, he is the "Great-Grandfather" of John Fogerty (of CCR fame).....and, that great BB HOF song "Centerfield" :)

OK guys....this may sound " way out ! " Whatever, consider this....Jim and John were both born in San Francisco.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Fogarty75x.jpg



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Jay

I enclosed that sentence with :) :) and quotation marks. Really, I was joking.


TED Z
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aquarius31 08-05-2016 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1568738)
Jimmy welcome back. Would love to see what's in those stacks of cdvs and stereoviews!

I was thinking the exact same thing! It would be great to see that entire stack spread out.

This is an awesome thread...it's great to see the diversity of 19th century items that are out there. Here are a bunch more that haven't been show yet.

1) Circa 1864 university cricket club (either Haverford or maybe Penn)
2) 1860's 1/6 plate tintype
3) Circa 1865 brass baseball belt buckle manufactured in Philadelphia
4) 1889 Boston BBC promotional print - Jordan, Marsh & Co.
5) Circa 1890 'A Stolen Base?' lithograph by Louis Prang
6) 1865 Frank Leslie's woodcut featuring James Creighton

19cbb 08-07-2016 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1568738)
Jimmy welcome back. Would love to see what's in those stacks of cdvs and stereoviews!

Thanks Clint. Will do!

GaryPassamonte 08-07-2016 01:58 PM

Where have you been, Jimmy?

jpop43 08-07-2016 07:00 PM

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Here are some recent 19th C. pickups...well, very recent...both are products of the Atlantic City National this past week.

1. c. 1850s - 1860s, single piece, Lemon Peel Style base ball.
2. H. Harwood & Sons Mfg. sales slip for an 1871 transaction of baseballs and bats.

Jonathan
www.dugouttreasures.com

Leon 08-08-2016 07:12 AM

Love the early baseball balls like that. They look so primitive. Thanks for sharing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpop43 (Post 1569517)
Here are some recent 19th C. pickups...well, very recent...both are products of the Atlantic City National this past week.

1. c. 1850s - 1860s, single piece, Lemon Peel Style base ball.
2. H. Harwood & Sons Mfg. sales slip for an 1871 transaction of baseballs and bats.

Jonathan
www.dugouttreasures.com


Bliggity 08-08-2016 07:27 PM

Picked up my first 19th Century this week, very excited.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...pskdkckpky.jpghttp://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/...psy1bv4l43.jpg

19cbb 08-09-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte (Post 1569406)
Where have you been, Jimmy?

Hey Gary, just took a 4 year break from the forum but didn't abandon my collecting habits :)
How's that Ross Barnes collection going?

GaryPassamonte 08-11-2016 09:15 AM

Very slow on the Barnes stuff, Jimmy. Most are holding onto what they've got.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:29 PM

First attempt to post image
 
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I have never posted anything from my collection for a number of reasons, not the least of which is I did not know how (also no scanner). But Derek h2oya tried to teach me how with photos so here goes. Apologies in advance.
Since my main interests are books and photographs of the Wrights and Chadwick, I am starting wiyh a page from Chadwick's Game of Base Ball (1868) on which Chadwick has made a major correction to the printed text. There are other examples.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:32 PM

Warren cdv George Wright
 
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Warren cdv of George Weight formerly part of the Cope.and collection. (Mcvey and O'rourke from that collection now reside in other board members collections.

bgar3 08-16-2016 02:35 PM

Chadwick
 
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Pearsall cabinet of Chadwick with an inscription to Abe Yaeger. Uncle Harry was the title of one of Chadwick's columns.


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