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coolshemp 05-13-2016 08:17 PM

I just can't imagine why that would be the case. Doesn't seem likely that a scam was being planned in 1999 to come to fruition in 2016. Maybe he should send it in to SGC or PSA. Stranger things have happened. Both Shreiner stamps are Detroit players. When did they first start making reproductions of the Wagner? Maybe he had his repro stamped as well.

drmondobueno 05-13-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshchisox08 (Post 1538506)
It puts the lotion on the cards.

Lmao!

slidekellyslide 05-13-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1538779)
I just can't imagine why that would be the case. Doesn't seem likely that a scam was being planned in 1999 to come to fruition in 2016. Maybe he should send it in to SGC or PSA. Stranger things have happened. Both Shreiner stamps are Detroit players. When did they first start making reproductions of the Wagner? Maybe he had his repro stamped as well.

I had a repro Wagner card all the way back in the 1980s. They've been making them even longer than that. That Wagner card has the EXACT same glue stain and name stamp in the EXACT location as your card. It is a 100% certainty that the back was taken from your card.

Sean 05-13-2016 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1538809)
I had a repro Wagner card all the way back in the 1980s. They've been making them even longer than that. That Wagner card has the EXACT same glue stain and name stamp in the EXACT location as your card. It is a 100% certainty that the back was taken from your card.

I agree. I don't know how it was done, but it can't be a coincidence.

Vintagecatcher 05-13-2016 11:31 PM

User name is close
 
Your user name is close....shouldn't it be "Aware of a Lie" instead of just lieaware?

Patrick

coolshemp 05-13-2016 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1538833)
I agree. I don't know how it was done, but it can't be a coincidence.

I am actually a bit freaked out! :eek:

vintagetoppsguy 05-14-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1538713)
However, I have never shown the stamp in public before. I wrote about it before to find othesr with the same stamp, but never uploaded a pic.

It is quite possible that someone saved the scan from 17+ years ago and used it for a modern day reprint. I save scans of cards that I find unique, even though they aren't my cards.

lieaware 05-14-2016 11:46 AM

wagner .... R B SHREINER
 
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Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1538779)
I just can't imagine why that would be the case. Doesn't seem likely that a scam was being planned in 1999 to come to fruition in 2016. Maybe he should send it in to SGC or PSA. Stranger things have happened. Both Shreiner stamps are Detroit players. When did they first start making reproductions of the Wagner? Maybe he had his repro stamped as well.

just shows me another example of a graded..... fake.................the Ty Cobb Lol

ullmandds 05-14-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lieaware (Post 1539025)
just shows me another example of a graded..... fake.................the Ty Cobb Lol

shocking...it's back!

Sean 05-14-2016 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lieaware (Post 1539025)
just shows me another example of a graded..... fake.................the Ty Cobb Lol

What do you mean another graded fake Cobb?

The cards we showed were graded real Cobbs. The fake is the one that you posted, and that one isn't graded.

shammus 05-14-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1539034)
What do you mean another graded fake Cobb?

The cards we showed were graded real Cobbs. The fake is the one that you posted, and that one isn't graded.

Where's the "facepalm" emoticon when you really need it? *sigh*

Leon 05-14-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1539034)
What do you mean another graded fake Cobb?

The cards we showed were graded real Cobbs. The fake is the one that you posted, and that one isn't graded.

So what are you trying to say? :)

coolshemp 05-14-2016 01:24 PM

I feel dirty that the back of my card has been used in such a sordid affair. I need a shower.

unamuzd1 05-14-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1539062)
I feel dirty that the back of my card has been used in such a sordid affair. I need a shower.

I'd think a thorough soaking should suffice.

/rimshot

pokerplyr80 05-14-2016 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shammus (Post 1539048)
Where's the "facepalm" emoticon when you really need it? *sigh*

Here you go

Tripredacus 05-16-2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1538809)
That Wagner card has the EXACT same glue stain and name stamp in the EXACT location as your card. It is a 100% certainty that the back was taken from your card.

In addition, the 3 creases in the top left of the back are the same.

Real original in grader in background, Wagner of this thread in foreground beneath (there is some transparency on the Wagner scan, ignore it, I forgot to change it back before saving the image)
http://i.imgur.com/LoQpBB7.jpg

Rookiemonster 05-16-2016 01:02 PM

Still new here but check this out. When I first joined I thought you guys were rough on people. ( maybe to much or to hard)
But after being here for a little bit. I see why,it's like people seek out this site to troll/be morons.

Lol so when so one shows up to town with acting a fool. Everyone runs and gets
The pitch forks and racks.

I got to say I got a good chuckle reading along to this one.

Pilot172000 05-16-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rookiemonster (Post 1539970)
Still new here but check this out. When I first joined I thought you guys were rough on people. ( maybe to much or to hard)
But after being here for a little bit. I see why,it's like people seek out this site to troll/be morons.

Lol so when so one shows up to town with acting a fool. Everyone runs and gets
The pitch forks and racks.

I got to say I got a good chuckle reading along to this one.

Same here.

Joshchisox08 06-01-2016 11:08 AM

Whatever happened here? The dude submit for grading?

Sean 06-01-2016 11:29 AM

I think that he realized that he wasn't going to get rich off these cards.

Or maybe you can find them on Craigslist. :rolleyes:


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